Keysersoze
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The F-117 was first gen stealth. It is not even in service anymore.
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Graveyard? What a laugh...!!! You might want to look up the meaning of the word. Here are the facts...NATO flew about 21000 sorties over Yugoslavia, of those were about 5000 Suppression of Enemy Air Defense (SEAD), meaning the fighters were often low and slow to entice ground missile radar crews. Out of 21000, only TWO aircrafts, an F-16 and an F-117 were shot down? That is not a combat record to boast about. What happened was kindly called a statistical inevitability, or more bluntly 'spray and pray', that both aircrafts were shot down. Not skills. The Serbs pulled a fast one on you.that was f-117 which hit by a SAM over Serbia.
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grave yard of f-117 Ladies and gentlemen .f-117 is not stealth at all.
This is a clear indication that you do not know what you are talking about when it come to basic radar principles. I made several posts about this subject. I suggest you look them up, study them and possibly learn something.
What F117?
The only notable advanage of F117 is stealth. F117 is retired! The reason for that is that both China and Russia habe already developed radar "signiture"for F117 thus it is not useful as more, as it is not stealth under Chinese defence radar at all!
。。。 guys it's just too early to talk about j-14
let's focus and put more attention on j-10B
i think we will see more information about it
Do we have more information about this specific design?
Please share!
come on, bro, u do not know the way our chinese make new weapons. if we annouce a new weapon, that means the new weapon have already been introduced to our army. now we have annouced j-10, that probably means we are making j-11(like su-27). j-12, what i know is that this model has been canceled。
as to j-14(maybe j-13, only one can be projected into production), I think it is still in R&D process. so in china, if any new weapon is in R&D process, there is no way new information can be issued out.
This is typical Chinese mentality of doing things!
I say whenever China is ready to export J10, as she just did, it means that China is ready, or very close to be ready to have at least a technology demonstrator, or a prototype of the next gen fighter, call it J14 or JXX. It is simplely because no matter how close Pakistan is to China in defence, don't get me wrong here, China will never sell the most technological advanced fighter she has at a moment for export. Indeed no one in the world does.
And China will never show off her most advanced fighter to the public unless it is already secretly in service for some periods - We always, always hold the best cards close to the chest.
Although we know nothing concrete and reliable on J14 yet, one can always logically expect that it is already there! In fact, given the amount of resources input, one should reasonablely expect 2-3 different types of next gen fighters.
Think about it, China's basic material science has been progressing with leaps and bounds for more than a decade. It is not that hard to make something similar to F22 given huge amount of investment. The only real bottleneck is the engine, if we want it to be a 100% indigenous production. But even that could be solved with time, hopefully very soon.
Very true. In fact, there has been substantially increasing reports of civilians themselves seeing strange fighter jets zooming above their heads near test centers. Some photos of these planes are all over Chinese internet, but the photos never made it to the West. Anyone wonder why?
And according to one eyewitness report, right after he was caught photographing a "J-14" plane, his cellphone was confiscated and erased.
Think about it, no one knew the J-10A existed until 8 years after its maiden flight.
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According to some leaked reports, the J-13 stealth fighter will enter service in 2010, while the J-14 will enter service in 2012-2015. J-14's maiden flight was in May 2010. J-13's maiden flight was in 2006.
Apparently, JH-7B stealth strike fighter and YFC-1E light stealth fighter are also in pre-productions stage.
After the J-13/J-14, the new J-16 and J-18 will be deployed.
And although I find it a bit hard to believe, the J-16 and J-18 apparently are in flight testing, too.
BTW, the J-13's name is "Peng Dragon" and J-14's name is "Peregrine Falcon".
and then there was a eyewitness report that Desiman flew to work in a saucer but the eyewitness was then jailed and never to be seen again lol Please come back with something better than your Chinese science fiction novels.