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China Is Now Making Some of the Most Powerful Guns on the Planet
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Kyle Mizokami
December 9, 2017

China’s People’s Liberation Army has traditionally relied on foreign and Communist bloc weapons manufactured in China under license—or not. Now, however, as the PLA undergoes an unprecedented modernization, a new generation of locally designed and manufactured light weaponry is arming China’s armed forces, from handguns to light machine guns.

China’s first modern, locally designed and produced assault rifle is the QBZ-95, currently standard issue across the People’s Liberation Army and China’s internal security force, the People’s Armed Police. The weapon first entered Chinese service in the mid-1990s. The QBZ-95 is a so-called “bullpup” rifle, meaning the trigger and fire-control group are placed ahead of the magazine, which is inserted into the rifle stock.

Typical of bullpup rifles, the QBZ has a twenty-inch barrel but an overall length of just under thirty inches. This gives it a longer barrel, and slightly longer range and velocity against the American M4 carbine, while at the same time having an overall length three inches shorter than the American gun. The downside of the bullpup design is a fixed length of pull that is not adjustable to a user’s unique arm length and the lack of a viable left-handed shooting ability.

The QBZ-95 is fed from a thirty-round magazine and uses a locally designed 5.8-millimeter×42 round. Exactly why China went through the trouble of designing this round is a mystery, as both NATO 5.56 and Russian 5.45 rounds are well established, and it would have been a simple matter to simply copy them and their characteristics. One possible explanation is that, like the Soviet Union, China did not want foreign ammunition to be able to be fired from their weapons.

Internally the QBZ-95 has a short-stroke gas piston, rotating bolt design. In that respect, the insides of the Chinese rifle resembles the Soviet AK-47. In addition to the standard rifle version, there are three variants. A carbine version has a shorter overall length of just twenty-four inches, giving it the compactness of a submachine gun with the stopping power of an assault rifle. A third weapon, the light-support-weapon variant, has an even longer barrel and is equipped with a seventy-five-round drum for delivering suppressive fire.

A new version of the rifle, the QBZ-95-1 features a number of improvements that make for a better, combat-ready rifle for a wider range of users. The improved rifle has a heavier, longer barrel for sustained firing, a muzzle brake to reduce felt recoil and ergonomics that are more friendly to left-handed users. The QBZ-94-1 also reportedly features a bolt-hold-open feature, important for inspecting and cleaning the breech and a gas system regulator. Perhaps most importantly, it is chambered for an improved bullet, the DBP-10, which compares favorably to the U.S. Army’s M855 round, particularly at longer distances.

Unlike the armies of the West, the PLA still sees value in submachine guns. The QCW-05 is a submachine gun very similar in external configuration to the QBZ-95, being a bullpup rifle, the main difference being the former uses a shorter, less powerful 5.8×21 round. A curved, quadruple-stack magazine inserted into the stock magazine well feeds fifty rounds to the submachine gun. The QCW-05 is issued to People’s Liberation Army and People’s Armed Police special operations forces, and is likely issued to military police units and vehicle crews guarding vital equipment, such as PLA Rocket Forces crews.

The PLA’s standard pistol is the QSZ-92 handgun. Outwardly similar to Western pistols, inwardly the design is dated and breaks down into four main parts: a polymer receiver, steel barrel, steel frame and steel rail with attached fire-control group. The double-action firing system cocks the pistol and releases the firing pin with a single pull. As 5.8-millimeter×21 rounds are narrower than Western nine-millimeter Parabellum rounds, the Chinese pistol takes fifteen- or twenty-round magazines, considerably more than a Glock, Sig Sauer, or Smith & Wesson M&P nine-millimeter pistol.

The seeming need for all of China’s modern small arms to use one of many types of 5.8-millimeter ammunition is a mystery. There appears to be no rational reason for this. While Western armies are neatly delineated between 7.62-millimeter ammunition for medium machine guns; 5.56-millimeter ammunition for automatic rifles, assault rifles and carbines; and nine-millimeter ammunition for pistols (and the occasional submachine gun), China has no fewer than four different types of 5.8-millimeter ammunition for light machine guns, assault rifles, submachine guns and pistols. This could create severe logistical problems in wartime, as a curt request for “5.8-millimeter ammo” could result in a large shipment of pistol ammunition to the front line.

As it gradually does in all fields of armaments, China is proclaiming its independence from foreign weapon and ammunition designs with a range of modern weaponry. These weapons are a particular point of pride, as this is the first time in the modern era that China is fully supplied with indigenously designed and produced small arms. For the first time in decades, China’s borders are quiet, guarded by Chinese soldiers equipped with Chinese guns. Like the rest of China’s military revolution over the past quarter century, China’s small-arms revolution is a remarkable achievement.

http://nationalinterest.org/blog/th...e-the-most-powerful-handguns-the-planet-23571
 
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The seeming need for all of China’s modern small arms to use one of many types of 5.8-millimeter ammunition is a mystery. There appears to be no rational reason for this. While Western armies are neatly delineated between 7.62-millimeter ammunition for medium machine guns; 5.56-millimeter ammunition for automatic rifles, assault rifles and carbines; and nine-millimeter ammunition for pistols (and the occasional submachine gun), China has no fewer than four different types of 5.8-millimeter ammunition for light machine guns, assault rifles, submachine guns and pistols. This could create severe logistical problems in wartime, as a curt request for “5.8-millimeter ammo” could result in a large shipment of pistol ammunition to the front line.

I watched the documentary on the development of the type 95 and 5.8mm ammo. There is a rational reason. The logistical problem in wartime is precisely the reason (one of the reasons) why 5.8mm was developed and chosen. The strategic direction was defence, and having a different ammo compared its potential enemies will create logistical problems for its foes if they invaded. China didn't intend on waging large scale land wars far from its shores, thus not necessitating the ability to utilise captured enemy ammunition.
 
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I watched skyhunter movie recently, I thought I didn't see a single QBZ type 95 in the movie, but saw a lot of those new rifles that surfaced few months ago. Have they been inducted into the service of PLA?
 
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A very big reason for using 5.8mm is its superior characteristic of doing more damage than 5.56mm while retaining the high velocity without increasing the caliber too much to make the gun needing to increase its weight and size.

Somebody hit by this 5.8mm rounds is gonna suffer a bigger wound compare to 5.56mm. While of course NATO 7.62mm, will cost the most damage but you are not able to design a compact assault rifle with this caliber. The Chinese development team find out the best caliber between these two consideration will be using 5.8mm.
 
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A very big reason for using 5.8mm is its superior characteristic of doing more damage than 5.56mm while retaining the high velocity without increasing the caliber too much to make the gun needing to increase its weight and size.

Somebody hit by this 5.8mm rounds is gonna suffer a bigger wound compare to 5.56mm. While of course NATO 7.62mm, will cost the most damage but you are not able to design a compact assault rifle with this caliber. The Chinese development team find out the best caliber between these two consideration will be using 5.8mm.

It's a reverse equation.

Estimate the amount of momentum required to kill
then calculate the caliber required to do that.

7.62 is a bit too much !
 
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But I still don't understand why China also use 5.8 mm on marksman rifle? How it performance up to 800 m? Did China still figure out to create better caliber for medium high-precision rifle or not? Mostly nation armies still stick to 7.62 mm as medium sniper rifle even bigger than that like Lapua Magnum. Russia even create 9 X 64 mm on SVDK.
 
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But I still don't understand why China also use 5.8 mm on marksman rifle? How it performance up to 800 m? Did China still figure out to create better caliber for medium high-precision rifle or not? Mostly nation armies still stick to 7.62 mm as medium sniper rifle even bigger than that like Lapua Magnum. Russia even create 9 X 64 mm on SVDK.
5.8mm sniper rifle is just a squad weapon, not real pro sniper. China still stick with 7.62mm CS-LR4 specifically used by top sniper.

http://modernfirearms.net/en/sniper...ina-standart-caliber-rifles/nsg-1-cs-lr4-eng/
 
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A very big reason for using 5.8mm is its superior characteristic of doing more damage than 5.56mm while retaining the high velocity without increasing the caliber too much to make the gun needing to increase its weight and size.

Somebody hit by this 5.8mm rounds is gonna suffer a bigger wound compare to 5.56mm. While of course NATO 7.62mm, will cost the most damage but you are not able to design a compact assault rifle with this caliber. The Chinese development team find out the best caliber between these two consideration will be using 5.8mm.

But NATO mainly use small caliber for assault rifle, 7.62 limited on sniper/marksman rifle and MG (except FN FAL). The only country still use 7.62 mm as assault rifle is ex-Soviet Russia (AKM, AK-103).
 
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So...Am reading posts about firearms from people most likely have never shot before. :rolleyes:

For those who mocks the 5.56 caliber, I have this test if they are brave enough to try it...

Have your friend shoot your right leg with a 5.56 round, then your left leg with whatever caliber you believe to be...ahhh...'superior'. :rolleyes:

Once you recovered, probably without both legs, come back to the forum and tell us which is worse. :lol:
 
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Interesting.

I find AA12 Atchisson Assault Shotgun and XM25 Individual Airburst Weapon System (IAWS) among the most terrifying handheld weapons yet devised. These are American however.
 
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So...Am reading posts about firearms from people most likely have never shot before. :rolleyes:

For those who mocks the 5.56 caliber, I have this test if they are brave enough to try it...

Have your friend shoot your right leg with a 5.56 round, then your left leg with whatever caliber you believe to be...ahhh...'superior'. :rolleyes:

Once you recovered, probably without both legs, come back to the forum and tell us which is worse. :lol:

Nobody is mocking 5.56 caliber. Get your negativity out of here.
 
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So...Am reading posts about firearms from people most likely have never shot before. :rolleyes:

For those who mocks the 5.56 caliber, I have this test if they are brave enough to try it...

Have your friend shoot your right leg with a 5.56 round, then your left leg with whatever caliber you believe to be...ahhh...'superior'. :rolleyes:

Once you recovered, probably without both legs, come back to the forum and tell us which is worse. :lol:


Simple but quite well explaination
 
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