China is building a string of artificial islands to fortify its position in the disputed South China

[mike2000 is back]

Japan has created over 40 man made islands, most of them the size of cities, not little 'islets', lol. To be honest, I've seen some pictures of these Chinese reclaimed islands and they are very small. Minor.

thats why i said Japan is not in Chinas position, isnt it? you are our ally remember?

 

[Aepsilons]

thats why i said Japan is not in Chinas position, isnt it? you are our ally remember?

I just don't know why some Chinese members are over glorifying island genesis; they make it seem as if they've started it as if its never been done before. Japan practically perfected and wrote the basis of civil engineering methodology in regards to island genesis, many of our techniques were consulted over in the creation of Dubai's Palm Islands and others. Japan has been 'creating' man made islands since the 1960s. lol.

Yet you don't see Japanese jumping up trying to show off to our neighbors as others do here. lol.

 

[70U63]

Yet you don't see Japanese jumping up trying to show off to our neighbors as others do here. lol.

Because it is for geopolitical purpose....
Anyway, If the western, vietnam and PH media don't focus must on this issue (dispute), i seriously doubt Chinese Gov (Media) willing to show off to the outside world.

 

[terranMarine]

Whether KMT would have started with reclamation when VN and Ph did it is debatable. Now that China is building artificial islands in SCS these weaklings are crying. To heat things up US starts to meddle with the issue by expressing only criticism. Take note: only vocal support. If Vietcongs and Pinoys expect US to send their soldiers to die fighting one of her near peer, boy do they need some reality check. I have read some of their ridiculous wishful thinking comments such as expecting the world wide condemnation, the international community will take on China and what not. Yes these foolish comments were made by every Vietcongs and Pinoys here at PDF for the past few years. So what has changed? Nothing. Our Diego Garcias are coming whether they like it or not. US ain't stopping us, so only option left is use your own military force, but both VN and Ph are chicken sh!ts. No matter how many times they yell how VN kicked all the big powers out of their jungle, they are too scared to do anything. Piece of advice would be less noise, improve relations with China.

 

[Kiss_of_the_Dragon]

I just don't know why some Chinese members are over glorifying island genesis; they make it seem as if they've started it as if its never been done before. Japan practically perfected and wrote the basis of civil engineering methodology in regards to island genesis, many of our techniques were consulted over in the creation of Dubai's Palm Islands and others. Japan has been 'creating' man made islands since the 1960s. lol.

Yet you don't see Japanese jumping up trying to show off to our neighbors as others do here. lol.

We glorified the island genesis not because of the technicity achievement but the geopolitical gain, now with these islands we can have more effective control and patrol over the SCS than ever before, we can eventually establish the ADIZ and control the 9 dash chain as what US and Japan are trying to contain China within the fist island chain...we will gladly to return some of this favor.

Sure you Japanese have the bright idea of island genesis but you did not get any geopolitcal gain by reclaiming some land near you country as China and you Japanese don't jump up because you dont have neighbors like China to jump up and down and hopelessly see us to do the reefs reclamation and crying like no ending drama

 

[empirefighter]

I just don't know why some Chinese members are over glorifying island genesis; they make it seem as if they've started it as if its never been done before. Japan practically perfected and wrote the basis of civil engineering methodology in regards to island genesis, many of our techniques were consulted over in the creation of Dubai's Palm Islands and others. Japan has been 'creating' man made islands since the 1960s. lol.

Yet you don't see Japanese jumping up trying to show off to our neighbors as others do here. lol.

It has nothing to do with showing off，we are happy because our government finally realize one thing:no matter how many times we talk about cooperation，our neibours just laugh and mock at us,they keeping arresting our fish men and beating them,they only understand fist,OK,we do not like behaving as gentleman any more,let us solve this problem by force.As a big country，we feel bullied by the SEA tiny countries in SCS,it is ridiculous and unacceptable,we f**k our officals and are very very tired of such stupid cooperation words from their mouth ，specially our fishmen keep killed in SCS from time to time,our policy-makers debate fiercely about SCS policies more than two decades，at first，the pro-cooperation group wins，as time passes，the cooperation becomes a joke，now we have to change our plan. That is WHY we Chinese are happy, nothing about showing off the building capability,just about the SCS future,we trust the CPC capability,if the CPC focused on one problem,it would pour all the resources on that and the problem would be solved soon.
By the way,the Chinese medias rarely mention this activity at home, it is the WEST keep shouting .lol

 

[cirr]

WIGs 001 and 002，developed by a company based in Hainan Province，took to the air for the first time on 16.04.2015：

Capacity：12 people or 1.2 tons of cargo
Speed：200km/h
Range：1500km
Price：250-300 million USD

These babies，together with the Jiaolong 600 amphibian and LCACs，are gonna play vital roles in protecting China's costal and maritime rights。

Good for island hopping in the SCS？？？

 

[empirefighter]

thats why i said Japan is not in Chinas position, isnt it? you are our ally remember?

Do not worry，we know Japan is not on our side. PLA army，navy ，airforce and nuclear troops are on our side and that is enough.lol

 

[Aepsilons]

We glorified the island genesis not because of the technicity achievement but the geopolitical gain, now with these islands we can have more effective control and patrol over the SCS than ever before, we can eventually establish the ADIZ and control the 9 dash chain as what US and Japan are trying to contain China within the fist island chain...we will gladly to return some of this favor.

Sure you Japanese have the bright idea of island genesis but you did not get any geopolitcal gain by reclaiming some land near you country as China and you Japanese don't jump up because you dont have neighbors like China to jump up and down and hopelessly see us to do the reefs reclamation and crying like no ending drama

WIGs 001 and 002，developed by a company based in Hainan Province，took to the air for the first time on 16.04.2015：

Capacity：12 people or 1.2 tons of cargo
Speed：200km/h
Range：1500km
Price：250-300 million USD

These babies，together with the Jiaolong 600 amphibian and LCACs，are gonna play vital roles in protecting China's costal and maritime rights。

Good for island hopping in the SCS？？？

Cool looking plane.

 

[KAL-EL]

WIGs 001 and 002，developed by a company based in Hainan Province，took to the air for the first time on 16.04.2015：

Capacity：12 people or 1.2 tons of cargo
Speed：200km/h
Range：1500km
Price：250-300 million USD

These babies，together with the Jiaolong 600 amphibian and LCACs，are gonna play vital roles in protecting China's costal and maritime rights。

Good for island hopping in the SCS？？？

That is one very cool looking plane

 

[empirefighter]

China tried to change the status quo after stolen with force Islands and coral archaeology rocks in sea territory of Vietnam.

Let us compete,do not cry like a girl,be a man. I always say there are only three REAL countries on this planet:China，USA and Russia. The common is：When we face big problem,we handle it by ourselves,we deeply know we can not depend on others.

 

[Beast]

I just don't know why some Chinese members are over glorifying island genesis; they make it seem as if they've started it as if its never been done before. Japan practically perfected and wrote the basis of civil engineering methodology in regards to island genesis, many of our techniques were consulted over in the creation of Dubai's Palm Islands and others. Japan has been 'creating' man made islands since the 1960s. lol.

Yet you don't see Japanese jumping up trying to show off to our neighbors as others do here. lol.

We never brag about those man made island. Instead its the US and Japan media drumming up the Yellow Peril nonsense. CCP try to keep hush hush over those building. Now you claim Japan is leader in island creation. So the Japan imperialist threat arising again is real

 

[Aepsilons]

Instead its the US and Japan media drumming up the Yellow Peril nonsense.

'...Japan media drumming up the Yellow Peril nonsense...'

Are you serious right now? You do know that Japanese people are also the same Race as Chinese (Han) , right? lol.

 

[Beast]

'...Japan media drumming up the Yellow Peril nonsense...'

Are you serious right now? You do know that Japanese people are also the same Race as Chinese (Han) , right? lol.

In US, yellow peril is mostly associate with Chinese.

 

[Echo_419]

Well to be honest/fair i agree with you. Funny thing is its not china who started building runaways/fortifying its position on SCS islands. It was actually Vietnam first, followed by the philippines who strated this game. However, i blame China's CCP passivity for being so passive(as always) and waiting soooo long to even start any concrete claims/building in the region(as i said before the KMT would have done that long ago, had they been ruling China). You might be surprise why i will have prefered China to start doing this decades ago, reason for this is Yes for more peace and stability. Truth is had they started this decades ago when the region was still quite peaceful/most countries didnt really bother that much, then there wouldn't have been sooo much issues today. We now live in an information/tech savvy/interconnected world, where news spreads like fire. So its very dificult to do things today which you would have done yesterday or in the 80s-90s without anybody/common people ever finding out/bothering, thats without talking about Chinas current size(and it being a rival/trying to challenge to the U.S/west). So in some ways the CCP brought this onto itself IMO. Also giving the country's size its bound to attract more attention/scrunity than smaller countries(for example vietnam took some filipinos islands few decades ago without much fanfare.lool)

Th best solution to this crisis is just to share the resources between all parties , and joint/exploration/ownership of these islands. its either this, current status quo or war(where let the best/strongest win).

As for those members who think we will go to war with China because of some insignificant islands which by the way several other countries claim, its simply laughable/naive. We wont jeopardise our huge interests/business because of these barren small islands. they should be realistic. For example just check this news, just to give you an idea of U.S business interests in China, and mind you this is just one company: read this:

In China, Apple is bigger than Tencent, Lenovo, and all other tech brands

Image Credit: Jeff Grubb/GamesBeat
April 16, 2015 11:15 AM
Jeff Grubb


Western products are a hot product in China — especially if they have the word “Apple” on them.

As China’s economy continues to grow and more of its 1.36 billion people adopt cutting-edge technologies, Apple is one of the companies benefiting big time. In terms of revenues, Apple is the No. 1 tech brand in that nation by far, according to a report from research firm Newzoo. With $37 billion generated in China, Apple eclipses every other Western and domestic company competing in the market. It’s bigger than Chinese Internet company Tencent, which owns the massively successful League of Legends and Cross-Fire games. It more than doubles Huawei’s $17.5 billion and Lenovo’s $14.7 billion, and both are Chinese companies that also produce smartphones.

These revenues are an important indicator that Apple is leading the way in China, and game developers looking to enter the market would likely benefit from making iOS games for the region.

These enormous revenues don’t come because Apple is outselling its competition in terms of raw units shipped. Instead, the company has the premium products that act as status symbols for China’s growing upper classes.

“With the introduction in September 2013 of the iPhone 5S and the less expensive 5C, many analysts believed the lower priced 5C was finally a product tailored to Asian markets, in particular China,” Newzoo chief executive officer Peter Warman said. “Whether by luck or design, Apple’s blockbuster products in China are not the less expensive iPhone models such as the 5C but the high-end 5S, 6, and 6 Plus, along with iPads and iMacs. If there was ever any potent evidence needed that Chinese consumers have money to spend and are willing to pay for quality and status, this is it.”

And one thing that other companies could potentially learn from Apple is that the company didn’t treat the Chinese differently than it does its other consumers around the world. Traditionally, a Western company looking to get into China would partner with a domestic company that could produce a localized marketing strategy, but Apple ignored that. Instead, it used much of the same kind of marketing that has helped it conquer the rest of the globe, and it worked just fine.

That means Apple isn’t splitting a significant portion of that $37 billion with anyone else.

Other Western companies are also making a dent in China. Microsoft generated a bit less than 10 percent of its $86.8 billion in fiscal-year 2014 revenues in China, and Sony brought in $4.4 billion from the country. While these aren’t Apple numbers, that is money that those companies cannot ignore.

In China, Apple is bigger than Tencent, Lenovo, and all other tech brands | GamesBeat | Games | by Jeff Grubb


If some people/members here think our governments in the west/U.S will forego this because of some useless islands(which several countries claim by the way), then i think they need to get their heads checked with all due respect.


same here bro. we always have similar views it seems.

1st thing 1st where were you man & what happened to your old account
& agreed uncle SAM will not interfere even if China invades PH or Vietnam