China Invites India to Join its Ambitious Silk Road Projects

[Chinese-Dragon]

you may be good at arithmetics but bad at logics..not long time ago china was very poor in numbers apart from population ..2to3 decades of financial success was enough for it to bridge the gap ..what makes you to think india wont strive for bridge these gaps? Open your eyes when sun shines but try to look beyond the day

What did it for us, was three whole decades of sustained average 10% growth. Which has never been done before in world history, we were the first ones to do it.

It's never been done before, China is the only one. There is no trend to show that anyone else can replicate our feat, but I am open to results if they come.

India's growth right now is around 4%. If the day every comes when you achieve sustained average 10% growth, then maybe you can start counting the beginning of your three decades.

Now our economy is $9.3 trillion. With such a large base economy, even with lower growth rates, we are still adding over $1 trillion to our GDP every single year. And we still double our economy every 5 years or so.

Now calculate what growth rate does India need (at $1.7 trillion) to add $1 trillion to your GDP every year like we are doing now. India has a much smaller base economy, thus in order to match our growth, you need a much higher percentage growth rate than we do.

 

[my2cents]

I want all 3 of those countries to weaken and collapse.

CPC don't trust the Indians. They see the US as the primary threat but India as no friend or ally. I'm pro-China and fully support conservative leadership within the CPC so all I care is China to get stronger and its rivals to get weaker.

Modern China has no place for liberals. People and countries that hate China should not get any love or admiration. Thus US, Japan and India are all threats to China.

I admire your nationalistic spirit and want what is best for your country. China is already a strong country by any measure you look at economically or military wise. All the countries you mentioned view China as rival and also threat. But all the three have not stopped talking or trading. Except for United states, Japan and India are just rivals in economic terms, japan more so than India.

I think BRICS bank is a good baby step. Only step by step we will build this institution. In your haste don't throw the baby with bathwater.

 

[Jlaw]

What did it for us, was three whole decades of sustained average 10% growth. Which has never been done before in world history, we were the first ones to do it.

It's never been done before, China is the only one. There is no trend to show that anyone else can replicate our feat, but I am open to results if they come.

India's growth right now is around 4%. If the day every comes when you achieve sustained average 10% growth, then maybe you can start counting the beginning of your three decades.

Now our economy is $9.3 trillion. With such a large base economy, even with lower growth rates, we are still adding over $1 trillion to our GDP every single year. And we still double our economy every 5 years or so.

Now calculate what growth rate does India need (at $1.7 trillion) to add $1 trillion to your GDP every year like we are doing now. India has a much smaller base economy, thus in order to match our growth, you need a much higher percentage growth rate than we do.

此人的帖子是说"不要太自信". 現在印度係比中國更弱但係未來無人會知。什麼說的話係事實，但係有人有可能覺得你睇低他績。

 

[zip]

What did it for us, was three whole decades of sustained average 10% growth. Which has never been done before in world history, we were the first ones to do it.

It's never been done before, China is the only one. There is no trend to show that anyone else can replicate our feat, but I am open to results if they come.

India's growth right now is around 4%. If the day every comes when you achieve sustained average 10% growth, then maybe you can start counting the beginning of your three decades.

Now our economy is $9.3 trillion. With such a large base economy, even with lower growth rates, we are still adding over $1 trillion to our GDP every single year. And we still double our economy every 5 years or so.

Now calculate what growth rate does India need (at $1.7 trillion) to add $1 trillion to your GDP every year like we are doing now. India has a much smaller base economy, thus in order to match our growth, you need a much higher percentage growth rate than we do.

How much time germany took to build strong military for ww2 ? One decade right ? They started from scrap ..if your economy is 9trillions then good for you ..your people may lead good life with that ..if you are a keen observer than you should be knowing that every one is gonna complete these economic race before reaching saturation ...dont celebrate too early for little speed gained ..keep your uniqueness intact ..it may be required to boast about when competetors say cheers after completing the race..

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

此人的帖子是说"不要太自信". 現在印度係比中國更弱但係未來無人會知。什麼說的話係事實，但係有人有可能覺得你睇低他績。

不要太自信? 你開玩笑吧？

My analysis uses facts and logic. You are arguing about what India could be tomorrow, by their growth rate of 4% (combined with where they are now) it doesn't seem like much. I think you are too overconfident in India, to expect them to grow at a sustained 10% in the future, frankly that is extremely unlikely. Only China has ever sustained that kind of growth rate for three decades, we are the only ones in history to have done that.

I'm more worried about what America is today, and the threat they pose to China today. Not just their 11 carrier battle groups which can be used to blockade us, but their control over the dollar-dominated global financial system, which they have already used to lock out Iran, and soon Russia.

Do you know how much of our trade and investment uses dollars? If they can do it to Russia, why not to us? Do you know we depend on sea-routes for our resources and trade?

This is a real and current danger. We need to promote the Yuan as a global currency, and promote alternative non-dollar payment systems like our own UnionPay.

Hence the CPC policy, to increase cooperation with the BRICS, and to set up the BRICS bank. The CPC understands the real threats to China, and their policies are designed to protect China and further our interests. Anyone who is not in the American camp, and who is not an American vassal state, can be a part of our multi-polar world initiative, and frankly we need everyone we can get, to start using the Yuan. The BRICS are only the beginning.

 

[Beidou2020]

So do you think the CPC wasted tens of billions of dollars setting up the BRICS bank, paying more than the rest?

You say you support CPC policy, but all I have seen is you arguing against their policies.

You already admitted that you are not Chinese, and are an American foreigner. So tell me how are you pro-China when you make anti-China posts, such as insulting our innovation and calling whites superior to us, and you are always attacking CPC policy?

Why don't you come to China and ask the CPC to make you a citizen? I'm sure they would love that, an American foreigner who is always criticizing their policies. Maybe you won't even need to buy a return ticket.

The CPC has poured tens of billions into the BRICS bank, and other BRICS initiatives. They are doing this to further the interests of the Chinese nation, and I trust them to do that.

This has nothing to do with "allies", and anyway the only country we have a mutual defence pact with is North Korea (and there are no plans to have a mutual defence pact with anyone else). Those guys can take care of their own business, we'll take care of our own business, which is strengthening our nation.

Our nation, not yours. Your nation is America, by your own admission.

Your nation? You are not even a mainland Chinese. All you Hong Kong people do is spew your anti-mainland nonsense in street protests. When has Hong Kong ever stood up for mainland China.

You are just another Ai Weiwei and Liu Xiaobo. You might be Chinese in race and passport but you are a huge cheerleader for our rivals.

You Hong Kong people are the most anti-China people on earth (e.g. Occupy Central). Hong Kong is the breeding ground for anti-China activities and people like you are the reason foreigners use Hong Kong to spew their nonsense.

The CPC will trust me before you (pro-Indian) any day despite you looking Chinese and having a Hong Kong passport. Ai Weiwei and Liu Xiaobo look Chinese and have mainland passports but they don't have the best interests of China at heart, neither do you by supporting our enemies in India and Japan.

Nobody that is happy to see our enemies get stronger and support anti-China leaders like Modi and Abe cannot consider themselves having the best interests of China at heart. I'm not surprised you support India because you are a Hong Konger, you don't know what it's like to be a true mainland Chinese. You have been brainwashed with the Anglo-Saxon education system and media. CPC is about protecting China from all foreign threats and India, Japan and US are the 3 major threats.

Most mainland Chinese I know despise Hong Kongers. Why? Because Hong Kongers call all the racist terms towards mainland Chinese (Locusts).

To make matters worse you celebrate the election of Modi who is on record talking sh*t about China. You have the audacity to call yourself a Chinese patriot by supporting an anti-China leader of a rival nation? Shameful behaviour. Sorry but that just unacceptable.

You want to support China, then counter the anti-mainland people living in Hong Kong.

You clearly have no intention of debating the relevance of BRICS on an intellectual level as you constantly use personal attacks against me. If you are ready to stop the personal attacks against me and debate the BRICS bank, then let me know. I won't hold my breath.

bro, i believe he was just trolling u, didn't mean to be insult, when that happens, we just troll back.

He cannot counter my views on an intellectual level so he has to bring up the posts which I trolled him as my 'proper views'. I used the troll posts after he attacked me. When he loses an argument, he resorts to personal attacks or runs to the mods.

This is the same guy that goes to every Modi thread and worships him as if he was a Chinese leader. Utterly shameful behaviour. But I guess you got to expect that from non-mainland Chinese.

 

[he-man]

What did it for us, was three whole decades of sustained average 10% growth. Which has never been done before in world history, we were the first ones to do it.

It's never been done before, China is the only one. There is no trend to show that anyone else can replicate our feat, but I am open to results if they come.

India's growth right now is around 4%. If the day every comes when you achieve sustained average 10% growth, then maybe you can start counting the beginning of your three decades.

Now our economy is $9.3 trillion. With such a large base economy, even with lower growth rates, we are still adding over $1 trillion to our GDP every single year. And we still double our economy every 5 years or so.

Now calculate what growth rate does India need (..at $1.7 trillion) to add $1 trillion to your GDP every year like we are doing now. India has a much smaller base economy, thus in order to match our growth, you need a much higher percentage growth rate than we do.

We can never match an autocracy dude,,,,we just can't do it.
But it will be our time sooner rather than later.

China is gonna shift from manufacturing to consumption and we are gonna do the reverse......................

 

[Beidou2020]

you may be good at arithmetics but bad at logics..not long time ago china was very poor in numbers apart from population ..2to3 decades of financial success was enough for it to bridge the gap ..what makes you to think india wont strive for bridge these gaps? Open your eyes when sun shines but try to look beyond the day

India is far too corrupt to ever match the power of China but India has enough power to disrupt China.

 

[zip]

India is far too corrupt to ever match the power of China but India has enough power to disrupt China.

Thats your assumption ..i am a citizen here and know whats happening here ..dont educate me about my country

 

[55100864]

He cannot counter my views on an intellectual level so he has to bring up the posts which I trolled him as my 'proper views'. I used the troll posts after he attacked me. When he loses an argument, he resorts to personal attacks or runs to the mods.

This is the same guy that goes to every Modi thread and worships him as if he was a Chinese leader. Utterly shameful behaviour. But I guess you got to expect that from non-mainland Chinese.

bro, chinese dragon is truly a patriot from my best knowledge, it's true that hong kong people in general are the most anti-china, the british is to blame not only hong kong people, if i was born in hong kong, growing up with all the anti-china propaganda，i would probably an anti-china too, it is very fortunate to still have people like him in hong kong. u two are just have different style, as a think tank, he has to be balanced and anti-no one, and we also need people like u， Buddha palm，iajj to brutally crash every china basher in this forum, i enjoin reading both of ur posts. peace...

on the topic, i think its indeed a dilemma to china whether to invest in india or not, but i believe the gap between china and india will only increase in the foreseeable future, when the time india became stronger like china today, china will became something profoundly different that leave no way for india to harm us. india can play its game for all i care, hold military exercise with japan, play dalai lama card, etc......but i believe we can play ours to disappoint them. i admit modi is pretty good, but he can hardly change anything profoundly in indian society during his term, unlike china, india is a democracy as they always proud of, u know how hard for Obama to implement any fundamental policy change in US right? we will keep eye on them, no worries.

 

[twocents]

Your nation? You are not even a mainland Chinese. All you Hong Kong people do is spew your anti-mainland nonsense in street protests. When has Hong Kong ever stood up for mainland China.

You are just another Ai Weiwei and Liu Xiaobo. You might be Chinese in race and passport but you are a huge cheerleader for our rivals.

You Hong Kong people are the most anti-China people on earth (e.g. Occupy Central). Hong Kong is the breeding ground for anti-China activities and people like you are the reason foreigners use Hong Kong to spew their nonsense.

The CPC will trust me before you (pro-Indian) any day despite you looking Chinese and having a Hong Kong passport. Ai Weiwei and Liu Xiaobo look Chinese and have mainland passports but they don't have the best interests of China at heart, neither do you by supporting our enemies in India and Japan.

Nobody that is happy to see our enemies get stronger and support anti-China leaders like Modi and Abe cannot consider themselves having the best interests of China at heart. I'm not surprised you support India because you are a Hong Konger, you don't know what it's like to be a true mainland Chinese. You have been brainwashed with the Anglo-Saxon education system and media. CPC is about protecting China from all foreign threats and India, Japan and US are the 3 major threats.

Most mainland Chinese I know despise Hong Kongers. Why? Because Hong Kongers call all the racist terms towards mainland Chinese (Locusts).

To make matters worse you celebrate the election of Modi who is on record talking sh*t about China. You have the audacity to call yourself a Chinese patriot by supporting an anti-China leader of a rival nation? Shameful behaviour. Sorry but that just unacceptable.

You want to support China, then counter the anti-mainland people living in Hong Kong.

You clearly have no intention of debating the relevance of BRICS on an intellectual level as you constantly use personal attacks against me. If you are ready to stop the personal attacks against me and debate the BRICS bank, then let me know. I won't hold my breath.



He cannot counter my views on an intellectual level so he has to bring up the posts which I trolled him as my 'proper views'. I used the troll posts after he attacked me. When he loses an argument, he resorts to personal attacks or runs to the mods.

This is the same guy that goes to every Modi thread and worships him as if he was a Chinese leader. Utterly shameful behaviour. But I guess you got to expect that from non-mainland Chinese.

Chinese-Dragon is nothing like those banana Hong Kongers that we all despise. Your accusation is utterly unfounded.

 

[he-man]

India is far too corrupt to ever match the power of China but India has enough power to disrupt China.

As usual stupid thinking,,,,USA thought about china like this in early 2000's too................

We are destined to be among top 3 economies in next 25 years.......

 

[Raphael]

Ok, Chinese tech will reach parity with Russian tech by 2020. Then what happens to India? It can no longer buy the most critical weapons from Russia any more and it switches weapon sourcing more heavily towards West, like it is starting to already to some extent with Rafale, C130, P-8 etc.:
Hagel Visits India to Pursue Military Projects - ABC News

So my prediction, India will have little choice but to become a part of China containment brigade in Asia. If they do not fall in line, the West can refuse to supply weapons, which is not an option for India. Simply put India, once it looses Russia as a source of superior weapons to defend itself from an ever rising China, will have no other option left other than the West to source their weapons tech from and as a result will be forced to follow the Western line in geopolitics.

I would not use the adjectives nefarious or insidious, they know what is beyond their ability and they have always been good at getting the job done using others, a trait they share with the Zionists. Zionists lack numbers and the Hindu's lack competence.

Most policy makers do not or cannot plan more than 5-10 years down the line, so yes I would call them short sighted.

Ok. Either way, I don't care. Both outcomes are acceptable. If India doesn't start trouble, then we will be strong economic partners. If India does, then we have an excuse to recover our lost territories (South Tibet), and maybe even more if India sticks to the path of confrontation.

 

[Tractor]

Invites the enemy occupying our territories and what experts are they?

 

[Vinod2070]

Great work for the new BRICS bank and the AIDB bank.

These new institutions will allow us to create a viable alternative to the current American dominated institutions like the IMF and World Bank.

And we can probably get increased voting rights in the IMF and World Bank too, that would be a double victory.

There is no reason why that should be needed. These institutions were designed to be Western dominated and they will not want that to change.

E.g. America can single handedly block anything in IMF and it will never allow that to change.

Rather than looking for crumbs from such institutes, why not build alternate ones into much more credible alternatives?

There is nothing special about IMF and WB other than their impressive names anyway.