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China intends to sign a new contract on delivery of 120 AL-31FN engines

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Plz stop talking nonsense,WS10 had been put into mass production long ago.
http://www.defence.pk/forums/china-...ed-mass-production-three-generations-ann.html

The second batch of AL31FN contract aren't still signed now.you dont believe chinese own reliable sources and you are so naive as to believe such a russian media lies.The second contract of AL31fn is under negotiation....russian engine are more mature ,but it is none so good in lifetime ,Chinese WS10B have longer lifetime and bigger thrust than AL31fn.believe it or not
brother the fact is that chinese just show this engine prototypes on their planes to showcase their engineering might ,but when it comes to production they sign secret agreements with Russians to provide engines for their own planes .Do u think putin visits to china was just for vacation ,it was for many defence deals which also should have included the engines deal ,but they dont expose themselves to avoid embrassement:meeting:
 
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lol those frustrated indians``they need to mentalmasturbate on one old news twice in a month in order to release their inferior complexity left by their former master`
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well why dont u say about ur own pseudo over superiority complex left by ur former japanese master:D
i can see all of their nation is frustrated from those world famous loud mouth funny politicians to ordinary people.
well what about ur own leaders then which doesnt even change its position till a decade :lol:

their pathetic project LCA's chief test pilot killed himself, i guess the main reason must be he cannot believe their people are so pathetic cannt even assemble a 3rd gen small bird after 30 years needless to say all the direct purchase of major parts and copying from Mirage and Saabs`
well what about ur j10 pilots which were killed by crashing of ur hopeless israeli lavi copy j10 fighter , well the main reason must be that they were scapegoat pilots like labrats or dogs for chinese copy marvel j10 jet .:rofl:
 
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another rat is here.

still bitter over the 1962 arse kicking china gave india.
in 1962 india got their pants pulled down by china and china proceeded to whip the indian buttcheeks until the indians waved the white flag.
china taught india a lesson that india will never forget.

many indians are still ashamed of that humiliation.
they are ashamed to be indian having suffered such a humiliating defeat at the hands of china.

india learnt a valuable lesson in that u dont mess with a vastly superior country like china.
well son u better read this article to brainwash ur infected brain
when chinese were given bloody nose
After the debacle of 1962, nothing could have enhanced the self esteem of India Army than the mauling that was given to the Chinese at Nathu La in Sikkim on 11th September 1967 and at Chola on 1st October 1967. It must have come as a ride shock to the Chinese Army and also its political leadership. And by a happy coincidence, the Army leadership which got the better of this eyeball to eyeball confrontation was the same that went on to create Bangladesh in 1971. Maj. Gen Sagat Singh was GOC 17 Mountain Division in Sikkim, Lt Gen Jagjit Aurora was GOC 33 Crops and Sam Manekshaw was the Eastern Army Commander.
When Chinese were given a Bloody Nose
 
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brother the fact is that chinese just show this engine prototypes on their planes to showcase their engineering might ,but when it comes to production they sign secret agreements with Russians to provide engines for their own planes .Do u think putin visits to china was just for vacation ,it was for many defence deals which also should have included the engines deal ,but they dont expose themselves to avoid embrassement:meeting:



Only prototypes.LOL
Why can’t your indians just accept the fact that china are being equipped much with own WS10 series engine .
Now,We all know that Chinese J11 and J15 series have no use for russian engines and use own WS10 only . J10B PT05 are also testing WS10B engine and we believe J10B(WS10 version )can also be put into mass production soon.
a lot of PLAAF J11B with WS10A
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PLAAF J11BS with WS10A
Zt7O9.jpg
 
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PLAN J11B with WS10H
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PLAN J11BS with WS10H
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PLAN J15 with WS10H
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J10B PT 1035 with WS10B
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however,Where are your indian kaveri Engine now.oh,yes,your Kaveri was a dead failure. rip,indian kaveri...
 
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well son u better read this article to brainwash ur infected brain
when chinese were given bloody nose
After the debacle of 1962, nothing could have enhanced the self esteem of India Army than the mauling that was given to the Chinese at Nathu La in Sikkim on 11th September 1967 and at Chola on 1st October 1967. It must have come as a ride shock to the Chinese Army and also its political leadership. And by a happy coincidence, the Army leadership which got the better of this eyeball to eyeball confrontation was the same that went on to create Bangladesh in 1971. Maj. Gen Sagat Singh was GOC 17 Mountain Division in Sikkim, Lt Gen Jagjit Aurora was GOC 33 Crops and Sam Manekshaw was the Eastern Army Commander.
When Chinese were given a Bloody Nose

If 12 Chinese KIA and 4 WIA in a one day firefight is called giving BLOODY NOSE, what shall we called the 8,094 Indian KIA, WIA, MIA and POW in 1962?
 
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well why dont u say about ur own pseudo over superiority complex left by ur former japanese master:D
the difference is we fought for it, but indians enjoyed being ruled by brits, clear slave mentality

well what about ur own leaders then which doesnt even change its position till a decade :lol:
please enlighten us chinese that which chinese leader stayed for over decades? unlike your upper caste rulers owns you all since the brits left

well what about ur j10 pilots which were killed by crashing of ur hopeless israeli lavi copy j10 fighter , well the main reason must be that they were scapegoat pilots like labrats or dogs for chinese copy marvel j10 jet .:rofl:
well anyone with a little bit knowledge of aerodynamics would know J-10 is not a copy of the failed project Lavi, but LCA is a failed copy of successful Mirage and Saab design, do you see why your test pilot killed himself? and the so called 'hopeless' J-10 equipted in hunderds already and lots other nation showed interests of buying it``but your laughing stock 3rd gen LCA has been ranting about entering service for god know how long``and we are wondering whether it can reach number 100 in 2020

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If 12 Chinese KIA and 4 WIA in a one day firefight is called giving BLOODY NOSE, what shall we called the 8,094 Indian KIA, WIA, MIA and POW in 1962?
massacre of clueless chickens

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Only prototypes.LOL
Why can’t your indians just accept the fact that china are being equipped much with own WS10 series engine .
Now,We all know that Chinese J11 and J15 series have no use for russian engines and use own WS10 only . J10B PT05 are also testing WS10B engine and we believe J10B(WS10 version )can also be put into mass production soon.
a lot of PLAAF J11B with WS10A
10cvt7a-1.jpg

xRu73.jpg

PLAAF J11BS with WS10A
Zt7O9.jpg
he has 0 knowledge of current aviation industry and aerodynamics, you are wasting time with a funny troller
 
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words from the Russian who involved do holds weight.

第十四届北京国际航空展(北京航展)在国家会议中心开幕,俄罗斯著名的航空发动机制造商“礼炮”(SALUT)公司出现在航展现场,该公司展出的AL-31FN涡轮风扇发动机明显带有推力矢量装置,俄方参展商告诉记者,目前并未与中国洽谈出售这款推力矢量发动机的合同;同时,俄方计划向中国出售140-150台AL-31FN 系列发动机(不带推力矢量装置),但尚未签署合同。

此前有俄媒报道称,中国于2011年6月初签署了一份价值5亿美元的合同,购买123台AL-31FN涡扇发动机,这种发动机用于中国歼-10 战斗机,将于2013年交付完毕。在2011年北京国际航展上,俄方公司新闻事务负责人Alexander A.Drozhzhin告诉记者:“相关合同仍在谈判,我们计划向中国出售140-150台该型发动机,但是合同尚未签署。”

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the al-31 producer denied it themselves.

@topic, article from french? really? its not even a news??!!
 
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Only prototypes.LOL
Why can’t your indians just accept the fact that china are being equipped much with own WS10 series engine .
Now,We all know that Chinese J11 and J15 series have no use for russian engines and use own WS10 only . J10B PT05 are also testing WS10B engine and we believe J10B(WS10 version )can also be put into mass production soon.
a lot of PLAAF J11B with WS10A
10cvt7a-1.jpg


PLAAF J11BS with WS10A
Zt7O9.jpg





PLAN J11B with WS10H
27_39687_fcf398481d0c064-1.jpg

PLAN J11BS with WS10H
O5aUH.jpg


J10B PT 1035 with WS10B
GnGt9.jpg


well brother j11b & j15 were copied product of russian su30 & su 33 ,& russia was very angry about it so they didnt supply engines for it ,so china was force to use it's own engine in those planes .So whether it is good or bad they have to use their ws 10 engines for it ,they have no other choice ,but the chinese AVIC manager Mr. Lin Zuoming (林左鸣), the top head of ACIC (Aviation Industry Corporation of China), himself admitted that China's "Taihang" WS-10 Turbofan Engine is still unsatisfactory in its quality.
Chinese AVIC Top Head admits the Poor Quality of Jet Engine*|*China Military Power Mashup

so when an engine manufacturer himself admitting the poor quality of his engines ,what more can i say :undecided:
Well by showing photographs of just few j11 & j15 with indigenious engines wont prove that these engines are reliable & certified.They are just few birds built by chinese to showcase world that they can build indigenious(REVERSE ENGINEERED) fighters with indigenious engines but for mass production & export u must have reliable engines that u guys dont understand as u are egoblind:blink:




however,Where are your indian kaveri Engine now.oh,yes,your Kaveri was a dead failure. rip,indian kaveri...
well brother why r u forgetting ur own country's WS 6 project was a R.I.P project :wave:,so if india has problems in building his 1st engine project so what.
 
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If 12 Chinese KIA and 4 WIA in a one day firefight is called giving BLOODY NOSE, what shall we called the 8,094 Indian KIA, WIA, MIA and POW in 1962?
well if a country backstabs a country which he had signed a peace treaty PANCHSHEEL treaty & attacks a unprepared army & that too cowardly declaring unilateral ceasefire in the fear of being nuclear attacked by US .well what shall i say ?:whistle:
 
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Since when did the Monkey Lama get so interested in high tech like jet engines?

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He probably need to go to high school first. Learning from the Newton's laws and fundamental chemistry.
 
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dont say that, i respect the tibetan people, i think they should build a new country, a new tibet by the price of some India territory, like several India North-east states.
 
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the difference is we fought for it,

:rofl: we have seen how u fought ur war with them & how succesful u were ,& also u didnt take any help from other country like US ,u won ur independence on ur own:D
please enlighten us chinese that which chinese leader stayed for over decades?
what a joke a country which has communism (single party) as a way of governance is asking me which chinese leader stayed for over decades?:lol:
unlike your upper caste rulers owns you all since the brits left
well i think ur IQ is next to zero or u r knowingly inciting caste thing here .Do u know the name of mayawati & her caste & her status in india just type in google & u would know a lot & wont dare to post such craps in ur life time:fie:

well anyone with a little bit knowledge of aerodynamics would know J-10 is not a copy of the failed project Lavi, but LCA is a failed copy of successful Mirage and Saab design,
this is the most hilarious thing in the world that a thief is boasting of caughting a cop stealing:rofl:
well anyone with working eyes & is not a biased chinese can say J-10 is a copy of the failed project Lavi,& LCA is not a copy of successful Mirage and Saab design

do you see why your test pilot killed himself? and the so called 'hopeless' J-10 equipted in hunderds already and lots other nation showed interests of buying it``
well why dont u introspect why were ur j10 pilots killed during test flying :partay:
& those nations are interested in ur jets which are bankrupt countries & depends upon foreign aid for survival .:lol:
 
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