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If they're going to have a protest, at least make it last for 2 freaking weeks.
This bunch of losers couldn't even last that long :lol:

This 'protest movement' has to go down as the worst 'protest movement' EVER!

CPC is laughing.
It turned ordinary HK people against this insignificant groups of hooligans big time.

CPC will still vet every future leader of Hong Kong.

Their 15 seconds of fame is up. Considering it didn't even last 2 weeks, I think its about 5 seconds of fame.

I hope they could have some gut like those maidan neo-nazis from Ukraine to start some bloodshed, but too bad these people were descended from the pussy KMT and the slaves colonized under the UK.

so finally you realized it!
dna is everything
china's weakness is southern chinese
china's strength is northern chinese
this is because of chenghiz khan
you will realize many more eventually

Not all South Chinese are born weakling, since Mao and his early CPC guerilla fighters were all South Chinese from Hunan.

The Cantonese army was also known as the brave fighters in the Chinese history, but people from HK has generally a weak mind though, same for people from Shanghai.
 
I hope they could have some gut like those maidan neo-nazis from Ukraine to start some bloodshed, but too bad these people were descended from the pussy KMT and the slaves colonized under the UK.

Not all South Chinese are born weakling, since Mao and his early CPC guerilla fighters were all South Chinese from Hunan.

The Cantonese army was also known as the brave fighters in the Chinese history, but people from HK has generally a weak mind though, same for people from Shanghai.

may be that was why japan targeted them first.
whatever, you said it right, these hk protesters don't have the guts to pick up arms like ukranians
 
I hope they could have some gut like those maidan neo-nazis from Ukraine to start some bloodshed, but too bad these people were descended from the pussy KMT and the slaves colonized under the UK.

Yup, very true.

Atleast in 1989, those mainland students gave it a decent try. That was a proper protest.

These bunch of jokers in HK can't even do a proper protest. Truly embarrassing.
These students probably wanted to skip school and joined in the 'protest movement' as an excuse.
Now that they have gotten fed up of it, they have left.

It just shows apart from the very core group of leaders of this, this movement has very little support.
If you don't have true passion for something, you can't do it for very long.
This shows this movement was not done by people that have a true passion for it.
Vast majority of these students just went along for the ride as it was 'cool' to skip class and do hooligan things.
Life gets a bit tough after the 1st week, and they decide they've had enough and its not 'cool' anymore.

Truly passionate protestors are those in Egypt, Occupy Wallstreet, etc that will stay for months and even have bloodshed.
 
Geopolitically, you are right, North China represents the military strength, whereas South China represents the economy.

From the Chinese Dynasties in the history, those strong dynasties all have the northern capital, whereas those weak small dynasties have the southern capital.

Even Mao was born South Chinese, but he had a mindset of a strong northern ruler, and he picked Beijing (the northern capital), whereas his KMT counterpart Chiang Kai Shek who had a weak mindset of a small southern ruler with a southern capital like Nanjing.

Although PRC was founded by the South Chinese, but it has the North Chinese spirit.

ROC was founded by the South Chinese with a typical weakling South Chinese spirit, thus it was destined to fail.

This "north strong, south weak" about chinese rhetoric is stupid, there is no such thing as northern or southern "spirit", chinese in the north have experienced more crisis so they were forced to fight more often compared with chinese in the south who got more fertile lands and peaceful enviroment, but when chinese in the south were forced to fight they have proven their courage more than enough, same as brethren from the north. ROC failed not because it was founded by sounthern chinese, it was because they cant win the hearts of chinese majority, who were overwhelmingly poor and more receptive of the idea of class representation from the communists. And ROC was extremly unucky in facing many internal and external enemies all at the same time.
 
There is a much higher chance of an Italian woman becoming the leader of India :p:

LMAO :rofl:

lol you a canadian said the movement was associated with lawlessness while the former chief executive of hong kong as well as 50 lawyers from mainland china said the movement was legitimate :lol:

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they are the hong kongers but you are a canadian :rofl:

They are lawless - they admitted as much themselves when today, they conceded to the government and agreed to stop illegally blocking the streets and entrances to places of business.
 
China is so mixed up, especially now the country has the best highway roads, railway and air aviation system in the world, it moves billions of people every year efficiently and comfortably, here in Beijing everyone is from everywhere. it will be very hard to tell northerners and southerner apart in the future.
 
There is a saying that southerners have more Han because of the Mongolian conquest which push the population southward. Then they have the Qing Dynasty where Manchus migrated southward.

Another one for example, surname Cai migrated en mass southward after the failed Huang Chao rebellion during Tang Dynasty to Guangdong and Fujian Provice. Later to Taiwan and South-East Asia after fall of Ming.


The northernized Chinese only care about China's future prosperity, and we do care the stability in North China, because we know only a stable North China will bring a stable unified China. Only with that, the South China could benefit its economic development from this stability.
You talk about unity, you think southerners don't care about unity? Those HK have too much influence from westerners and you blame the entire southern chinese. That kind of speech are for people who want to break China apart.
 
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Hong Kong is in a very unique and delicate position. It’s not a sovereign country. It’s one country, two systems. It’s never had elections all the years when the British ran it as a colony. When the British term ended, the arrangement with the Chinese was one country, two systems and some limited form of democracy in Hong Kong, gradually extending to direct universal suffrage ... So the governing law is Basic Law, the sovereignty is China and the geopolitical reality is that Hong Kong is now part of China. China wants Hong Kong to succeed and do well, and is prepared to go very far to help Hong Kong to succeed and do well but they don’t want Hong Kong to become a problem for them on the other side of the Shenzhen river in China. Absolutely not.

So the Hong Kong people have to make one country two systems work. They, as well as the central government in Beijing, have to do that jointly. It’s a delicate business where exactly does one country end and two systems begin. ... There’s always grey areas for interpretation. There will be issues which will have to come up from time to time, such as exactly how are you going to elect the chief executive. And these have to be resolved by Hong Kong and China but in a way which is in the interests of Hong Kong and which doesn’t hurt the interests of China and which is in accordance with the law and the Basic Law. ...

PM Lee answers questions on Hong Kong protests, Tan Pin Pin film on political exiles | TODAYonline

So eloquently and diplomatically worded. I love it. Well said Lee Sensei !
 
Oct. 1: A Test of ‘One Country, Two Systems’

A protester held an umbrella on Wednesday in Hong Kong.
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For more than a year, a group of pro-democracy activists had warned Beijing that if it set rules for the elections that did not comply with internationally accepted norms for free and fair elections, they would engage in nonviolent protests in the Central district of Hong Kong, the heart of Asia’s most important financial center.
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Joshua Wong, a 17-year-old student activist, has been at the center of the democracy movement that has rattled the Chinese government’s hold on this city.
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Freedom of speech, assembly and religion and a free press are all enshrined in Hong Kong’s mini-constitution, the Basic Law, drafted to govern the city of 7.2 million upon its return to Chinese sovereignty in 1997 after more than 150 years of British rule.
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Hong Kong residents are guaranteed those rights until 2047, and a legal system inherited from the British helps keep it intact.
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It is a system called “one country, two systems” that the leaders in Beijing hope — or hoped — would someday also be applied to Taiwan to encourage its political reunion with the motherland. Taiwan has governed itself since 1949.
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Student protesters listened during evening speeches. Protest leaders have drawn on civil disobedience movements of the past, citing Henry David Thoreau and the Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.
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Demonstrators slept in Hong Kong’s Wanchai district.
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Oct. 2: Beijing Remains Firm as Protesters Face a Dilemma

Demonstrators at the main protest site, where their number appeared thinner but surged again in the evening.
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Pro-democracy demonstrators recycled plastic bottles at a collection point. The protesters faced a choice Thursday in the face of a government strategy to wait them out, as they considered whether to escalate their confrontation with the authorities by storming a government building or to begin searching for an exit strategy.
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A pro-democracy protester slept at Tamar Park. After a two-day public holiday, many Hong Kong residents were supposed to return to work on Friday, meaning that the traffic delays and disruptions caused by the protests would affect a broader swath of the public, potentially cutting into support for the demonstrations.
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Police stood guard outside the government headquarters in Hong Kong.
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A taxi driver gave a thumbs-up to pro-democracy protesters as he drove past the protest site.
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A large crowd of protesters gathered around Hong Kong’s main government offices after the authorities warned of “serious consequences” if demonstrators tried to enter and occupy the complex.
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Protesters confronted the police outside Hong Kong’s Legislative Council on Thursday.
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Student protesters formed a human chain across a main road to prevent people from entering.
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Oct. 3: A Straining Day for Hong Kong Protests

Pro-democracy protesters in two parts of Hong Kong came under assault on Friday from men who tore down their encampments.
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Police officers controlling the crowd after the confrontation in Mong Kok, one of the most densely populated neighborhoods in the world. Skirmishing between protesters and the men trying to remove them began there in the afternoon.
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A man screaming at pro-democracy protesters to stop occupying an area of the Causeway Bay shopping district, where brawls also broke out. The groups of men who stormed the two sites came abruptly and in force, and on two sides of Victoria Harbor at about the same time, leaving many in the pro-democracy camp convinced that the assaults were planned.
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An encampment being broken apart in Mong Kok. After nearly a week in which the tens of thousands of protesters were, for the most part, not only nonviolent but assiduously polite and clean, the attacks came as a shock.
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A pro-democracy protester being escorted by police officers in Mong Kok. Protesters raised questions about the lack of police in both areas that came under attack, accusing the authorities of allowing the attacks to occur.
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The sit-ins on major roads still drew thousands, but appeared diminished on Friday as Hong Kong residents returned to work after a two-day holiday.
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Several of the groups leading the protests threatened to call off planned negotiations with the government unless officials prevented further attacks.
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Police officers at Hong Kong’s government offices in Admiralty on Friday. Many hundreds of activists maintained their siege of the office of the city’s leader, Leung Chun-ying.
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http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2014/10/01/world/asia/hong-kong-protest-photos.html?_r=2
 
student leaders are in talks with leung, what are you talking about? ask anyone who is in hong kong, so wait and see

btw, hong kong now belongs to indians in hong kong
so get ready for colonization of china 2.0 ;)
thank you ccp :lol:

Why don't Indians try to colonize Aksai Chin first? You know, like you said they would. When's that going to happen and why are you still in PDF since the Indian army hasn't done jack? :pop:
 
@LeveragedBuyout , @Chinese-Dragon , @mike2000 , @TaiShang, @ChineseTiger1986 , @Huaren , @Huan ; sometimes I really think the Diplomat reads PDF's East Asian Section because we discussed all these points last week, and they just published this article just today. lol.

:lol:



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Japan Dips Its Toe into the Hong Kong Protests


Since the Occupy Central movement in Hong Kong re-intensified on September 27 when 50 students managed to reenter the barricaded Civic Square, Japan has been relatively silent on the issue – until last Friday. While the rest of the world has watched the tense situation unfold, Hong Kong’s third-largest trading partner has been reluctant to weigh in on the issue, for fear that it will be seen as meddling in China’s domestic affairs. This fear is especially potent right now as Japan seeks to improve damaged ties with Beijing and hopefully hold a summit between Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe and Chinese President Xi Jinping at the upcoming APEC summit in Beijing this November.

Japan’s first official statement on the issue came from Chief Cabinet Secretary Yoshihide Suga at a press conference, where he said “Japan strongly hopes that Hong Kong’s free and open system will be kept under the principle of ‘one nation, two systems’ so that the close relationship between Japan and Hong Kong will be maintained.” He further said that Hong Kong’s stability was important for the entire region.

However, government officials who spoke with the Japan Times were less supportive of the protesters in Hong Kong, or Japan’s involvement in the issue. One official said “We should not say any more (than what’s been officially said). That would be better,” while another told the media outlet that Japanese support of the protest “shouldn’t be made clear.” The officials did make clear that Hong Kong is very important economically for Japan, while the Japan Times noted that even Suga did not directly answer when asked by reporters if Tokyo supports the protesters.

Japan is certainly constrained by its economic ties to both mainland China and Hong Kong. There are 1,200 Japanese businesses operating in Hong Kong alone, and the city is the world’s largest importer of Japanese agricultural products, about 111 billion ($1.01 billion) worth in 2011, or roughly one quarter of the total. Hong Kong is likely attracted to the higher quality of Japanese food products, as a large percentage of the city’s citizens are leery of potential health hazards associated with mainland China’s agriculture.

However, Japan has a much larger interest in improving its tenuous ties with Beijing at the moment, particularly as the Occupy Central movement does not represent a strategic interest to Tokyo or its relationship with Hong Kong. Nor would the loss of the democratic freedoms the protesters are seeking to protect clearly or immediately affect that relationship. As my colleague Zach has pointed out, the protesters face a stiff and all but insurmountable challenge if China should choose to forcefully remove them. Japan appears to be more interested in maintaining stability in Hong Kong, whatever form that takes, so that business can continue as normal without hindering its attempts to hold high-level talks next month.


Japan Dips Its Toe into the Hong Kong Protests | The Diplomat
 
Oct. 4: Hong Kong Protesters Continue Campaign Despite Attacks

Pro-democracy protesters in Hong Kong held one of the largest rallies of their campaign Saturday evening, a day after assaults on their encampments.
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An opponent of the pro-democracy campaign, center, was grabbed by protesters amid skirmishes on Saturday. Student stewards at the demonstrations tried to stop quarrels from escalating into fights.
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Joshua Wong, a 17-year-old student activist, preparing to speak at a protest Saturday. The government has vowed to take “all actions necessary” to clear the area by Monday.
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Young activists insisting on fully democratic elections did not relent on Saturday. At least 18 people were injured in violent confrontations on Friday, the police said.
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Demonstrators listened to pro-democracy speeches on Saturday, the seventh day of the student-led campaign to prevent mainland China from restricting Hong Kong’s choices for a new leader.
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Confronting pro-democracy demonstrators on Saturday, a man held up a banner and yelled abuse. Some Hong Kong residents had cheered the assaults against protesters on Friday.
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A crowd trying to prevent a man from dismantling a barricade that protesters had placed on a main road, blocking traffic into the shopping district of Mong Kok.
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Messages of support for the pro-democracy campaign, widely known as the Umbrella Revolution, have been left on the office building for the Hong Kong government.
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Catholics calling for peace near a protest site. A week ago, the police used tear gas against demonstrators, and violence on Friday was attributed in part to members of organized crime gangs.
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The police surrounded a man after a scuffle that began when he tried to remove one of the barricades set up by protesters. Throughout Saturday afternoon, groups of middle-aged men attacked the barriers.
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A protester rested on a blockaded road Saturday, shielding himself with an umbrella, now the symbol of the pro-democracy movement in Hong Kong.
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