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[Nan Yang]

Does that means the Occupies has lost ?

Hong Kong protests: Civil servants at work as numbers dwindle
Tens of thousands of people have been on the streets in the past week, but only about 100 protesters remained outside government offices at the Admiralty protest site in the Central district on Monday morning, and just ten people were sitting outside the chief executive's office, according to the South China Morning Post.


About 200 remain in Mong Kok, north of the harbour, despite earlier calls by organisers for protesters to withdraw from that site, following clashes at the weekend with people opposed to the demonstrations.


Overnight, some protesters in Central dismantled barricades and cleared roads so government officials could get in to work.

BBC News - Hong Kong protests: Civil servants at work as numbers dwindle

 

[TaiShang]

Does that means the Occupies has lost ?

Hong Kong protests: Civil servants at work as numbers dwindle
Tens of thousands of people have been on the streets in the past week, but only about 100 protesters remained outside government offices at the Admiralty protest site in the Central district on Monday morning, and just ten people were sitting outside the chief executive's office, according to the South China Morning Post.

About 200 remain in Mong Kok, north of the harbour, despite earlier calls by organisers for protesters to withdraw from that site, following clashes at the weekend with people opposed to the demonstrations.


Overnight, some protesters in Central dismantled barricades and cleared roads so government officials could get in to work.

BBC News - Hong Kong protests: Civil servants at work as numbers dwindle

I guess it is time for damage control by the traitors.

 

[beijingwalker]

Singapore's Prime Minister Lee answers questions on Hong Kong protests
PUBLISHED: 11:47 PM, OCTOBER 3, 2014

Hong Kong is in a very unique and delicate position. It’s not a sovereign country. It’s one country, two systems. It’s never had elections all the years when the British ran it as a colony. When the British term ended, the arrangement with the Chinese was one country, two systems and some limited form of democracy in Hong Kong, gradually extending to direct universal suffrage ... So the governing law is Basic Law, the sovereignty is China and the geopolitical reality is that Hong Kong is now part of China. China wants Hong Kong to succeed and do well, and is prepared to go very far to help Hong Kong to succeed and do well but they don’t want Hong Kong to become a problem for them on the other side of the Shenzhen river in China. Absolutely not.
So the Hong Kong people have to make one country two systems work. They, as well as the central government in Beijing, have to do that jointly. It’s a delicate business where exactly does one country end and two systems begin. ... There’s always grey areas for interpretation. There will be issues which will have to come up from time to time, such as exactly how are you going to elect the chief executive. And these have to be resolved by Hong Kong and China but in a way which is in the interests of Hong Kong and which doesn’t hurt the interests of China and which is in accordance with the law and the Basic Law. ...

PM Lee answers questions on Hong Kong protests, Tan Pin Pin film on political exiles | TODAYonline

 

[beijingwalker]

Hong Kong protests subside as exhaustion sets in
By Aaron Tam | AFP News – 51 minutes ago

Exhausted Hong Kong demonstrators were debating the next step in their pro-democracy campaign Monday as their numbers dwindled and the city returned to work after a chaotic week of mass protests.

The government had been forced to shut its headquarters on Friday due to the ranks of protesters blocking the access roads, leaving 3,000 civil servants at home. On Monday a knot of protesters kept the entrance to the complex partially blocked with barricades, but opened a narrow section to allow workers to enter.

"I'm happy the protesters opened the barriers today," one female civil servant said as she pushed through. "I need to work!"

In fear of a repeat of ugly scenes a week ago when police unleashed tear gas on the crowds, only a committed core of about a thousand had waged a vigil through the night.

After a public holiday Wednesday and Thursday, for many in the city Monday was their first day back at work.

With some buses still diverted due to roads occupied by the protesters, highways were gridlocked with traffic and subway trains were packed as frustrated commuters tried to find a different route to work.

"They have to let the cars through as soon as possible -- they are blocking the way," said Michael Lau, 25, who rides the tram to work.

Secondary schools in the affected areas also reopened on Monday as the city administration pushed for Hong Kong to get back to normal.

- Exhaustion sets in -

While relieved that they had not been cleared away by police ahead of the government's Monday deadline to abandon the protest sites, tiredness was beginning to show for the few hundred who remained.

"It's good that nothing (no police action) happened but... I hoped that something would happen so we could end this thing quickly," said 18-year-old Otto Ng Chun-lung, a pro-democracy protester and sociology student.

"This is my opinion -- because everyone is just exhausted and we can't go long, long, long time."

But some of those on the streets have vowed to stay and others have promised to return later in the day, insisting their campaign was not losing steam after the week-long standoff that has at times erupted into violence.

"We're going to be here until we get a response from the government," said 20-year-old student Jurkin Wong, who was sitting with friends as they woke from fitful slumber on the streets. "We have to stay here. It's for our future."

"If I'm not working, I will be here -- the numbers are dropping but our hearts have never left," piano teacher Denise Wong told AFP.

The protesters are demanding the right to nominate who can run for election as the former British colony's next leader in 2017. China's Communist authorities insist only pre-approved candidates will be able to run, a system activists dismiss as "fake democracy".

Handed back to Chinese rule in 1997, Hong Kong is governed under a "one countries, two systems" deal that guarantees civil liberties not seen on the mainland, including freedom of speech and the right to protest.

But tensions have been rising over fears that these freedoms are being eroded, as well as rocketing inequality in the Asian financial hub.

- Plea to leave -

University staff made an impassioned plea Sunday for students to head home after the city's embattled chief executive Leung Chun-ying issued an ominous warning that the situation could "evolve into a state beyond control" if the protests do not end soon.

Other movement supporters have also been trying to persuade the remaining students that they should beat a tactical retreat.

"Even those (members of the public) who support the movement don't want to lose money," political analyst Willy Lam told AFP.

"A large number of people here have stocks and shares and have lost money.

"I think it's a wise decision to make a strategic draw down (of people on the ground) as it's hard to convince the public that continuing the blockade would achieve results.

"If talks between the students and the government prove totally futile... and (Chinese president) Xi Jinping is against concessions, then it's possible to switch on the movement again. By that time they would have the moral high ground."

There were hopes of a breakthrough on Sunday when student leader Lester Shum met with mid-ranking officials with the aim of setting conditions for a meeting with Leung's deputy Carrie Lam. However, no agreement was announced.

Hong Kong protests subside as exhaustion sets in - Yahoo News Singapore

While relieved that they had not been cleared away by police ahead of the government's Monday deadline to abandon the protest sites, tiredness was beginning to show for the few hundred who remained.

"It's good that nothing (no police action) happened but... I hoped that something would happen so we could end this thing quickly," said 18-year-old Otto Ng Chun-lung, a pro-democracy protester and sociology student.

"This is my opinion -- because everyone is just exhausted and we can't go long, long, long time."

 

[beijingwalker]

Those students really painted themselves into a corner

That pessimism makes the short-term pain more difficult to bear for business owners, many of whom point out that students can simply return to class when the demonstrations end.

Occupy protests have always been controversial in the city, with opinion often starkly divided along age and class lines: Protesters have overwhelmingly been young, many of them students from prestigious Hong Kong universities, while Hong Kong’s older and poorer populations tend to oppose such actions at much higher rates.

As night fell over Hong Kong on Sunday, demonstrators faced difficult decisions about how best to turn up the pressure on the government without alienating more local residents.

 

[TaiShang]

"It's good that nothing (no police action) happened but... I hoped that something would happen so we could end this thing quickly," said 18-year-old Otto Ng Chun-lung, a pro-democracy protester and sociology student.

Idiot! So you thought you could play politics with Beijing?

Make sure your picture is scattered all over the internet so that you would be denied any government jobs and have to pack up and sail to the glorious land of the Queen in the hope of finding a job as a second class citizen.

President Xi will give you no concessions. Swallow your pride and back to school or wherever you first emerged from.

 

[Viet]

I have full sympathy for the protesters and support their aim. they fight for the right thing, against the barbarism.

 

[terranMarine]

Xi isn't gonna move an inch, demanding Beijing to make concession (what a joke). It's like a peasant demanding the Emperor to come to terms with commoners. I don't recall something like that has ever happened in other parts of the world.

Vietcongs should worry more about the 9 dash line first

 

[Huan]

How much money has been lost for Hong Kong as of Monday? How much more money will be lost by next Saturday?

 

[Viet]

How much money has been lost for Hong Kong as of Monday? How much more money will be lost by next Saturday?

HK retailers lost about $100m a day. other sectors such as tourism and banking were hard hit. the stock market lost billions.
the most serious thing is investors and people begin to question about the future of HK.

 

[Huaren]

Xi isn't gonna move an inch, demanding Beijing to make concession (what a joke). It's like a peasant demanding the Emperor to come to terms with commoners. I don't recall something like that has ever happened in other parts of the world.

Vietcongs should worry more about the 9 dash line first

peasant demanding the Emperor to come to terms with commoners would be just and fine, but in most case some people would twist the idea and simply claim to represent the "peasant" to make demands which would ruin the lives of the most other than their own.

like in this case

I certainly dont want to be one of those small shopowners around the districts in Hongkong, a few days off track could mean life or death, certain "demonstration" with road blocking means you are dead for sure. Do all the begging or kneeling down in front of the public or whatever, those "protesters" wont care about your suffering because of them, in the end you even get blamed for harrasment. Seriously, those ****ing kids are heartless. They dont have to work because of their parents, those onlookers who joined day in and out are not hangging by the thread like local workers around the districts, wherether they get their message through to the government or not, the local workers are gonna pay the heavy price for something they havent even asked for.

 

[gambit]

For one, our so called democracy is full of holes and deficiencies. Before we tell others to be become democratic, we first have to reform our system dramatically. Right now we are on our way to a new form of feudalism, not by bloodlines, but by large corporations.

By that argument, the preventative medicine discipline should be abolished, so should nutritionists and assorted therapists, after all, none of these specialists are ever perfect physical specimens, right ?

The various democracies are not perfect, but they are certainly much better than most of the hell holes in this world. For all your meaningless criticisms of the imperfect systems that gave you the freedom and wealth you currently enjoy, we all know you would rather live in and among imperfect democracies than perfect dictatorships.

You have the courage to criticize the imperfect democracies but are too cowardly to criticize ideal dictatorships.

 

[TaiShang]

peasant demanding the Emperor to come to terms with commoners would be just and fine, but in most case some people would twist the idea and simply claim to represent the "peasant" to make demands which would ruin the lives of the most other than their own.

like in this case

I certainly dont want to be one of those small shopowners around the districts in Hongkong, a few days off track could mean life or death, certain "demonstration" with road blocking means you are dead for sure. Do all the begging or kneeling down in front of the public or whatever, those "protesters" wont care about your suffering because of them, in the end you even get blamed for harrasment. Seriously, those ****ing kids are heartless. They dont have to work because of their parents, those onlookers who joined day in and out are not hangging by the thread like local workers around the districts, wherether they get their message through to the government or not, the local workers are gonna pay the heavy price for something their havent asked for.

Let this be a lesson for them and the common Hong Kong citizens would be much more proactive if a similar provocation occurred again. They should organize and strangle these destabilizing protests at their infancy.

The local government should find a place away from the heart of the business and politics for the protesters to gather and sleep like hippies for months under rain and sun.