China hits India where it hurts

[nang2]

Indian middle class in Chinese criteria actually is the poor lower class which needs financial support from the government, all thanks to their insane demoncrazy.

That is Indian middle class defined by some Chinese, not Indian's own definition. Arguing without common ground is equally insane.

 

[3Kingdoms]

Gurkha troops played hard with Chinese KMT in WW2 Burma, this is great maybe in future we may see anti-terror exercises in Napal-Indian border.

 

[PaklovesTurkiye]

What Xinhua propaganda? Reading should be basic literacy, check again, that slavery survey was conducted by WFF.
Findings - Walk Free Foundation - Global Slavery Index 2014

On RMB, of course we will manipulate to boost industrial exports, one sports that you can't play well, in order to reap record-breaking trade surplus, something which you have never seen before.

Your posts are full of knowledge/in depth and worth reading. You always avoid trolling and remain stick to topic. Keep posting bro, I and other members sure enjoy reading your valuable posts.

Thanks,
Karachi, Pakistan.

 

[Abba_Dabba_Jabba]

Meh.. The Nepalis hate India... I also made a few Nepali friends at university (on scholarship - studying pharma stuff)... And all of them harbour a strong dislike for India.

Even on social media you will see Nepalis showing their hate for India and being friendly to Pakistan and China (for obvious reasons)... The way India and her media acted during the earthquake also created alot of ... for India., meanwhile Pak did a nice job by sending docs,relief and SAR teams ..

The moment anything wrong happens with India, there are many pakistanis who all of sudden meets their Nepali friends(don't know where ?) and share their views on pdf.

If you are talking about Social Media, then sir we know how it works. We can start a hash-tag #backofpakistan and believe me it will trend at top of the world.

No doubt that India didn't handled this issue properly or didn't knew that the blockade by the Madhesi's will be considered as blockade by India. But going to China is never a better option as geographically it infeasible for Nepal to afford the supply of goods.

 

[ThaniOruvan]

OMG, what more hindu delusion you want to display,, those brands are 'status symbols'?! ```only in Sub-Sahara level primitive India, those brands are classic middle-class and upper middle-class brands, they are on daily livelihood usage in Europe, North America, East Asia, China and real middle-class societies```

your 'english speaking' work force has nothing to do with your cheating and lousy education, it is because of your colonial master, the Brits, they created a country called India, and they forced you lot to have an official language to communicate with each other``

the fact is India has the biggest stunt growth and illiterate population, and yet you are thinking otherwise```lol, have you ever been out the slum engaging with the reality? do you even know India is the most ignorant country in the world?

Keep your commie coma with yourself.
At least I have my religion. What do you have ? A chinese child cannot speak of culture, tradition, religion, family values etc etc. You guys only know reverse-engineering. Just be there.

Where is your answer to my real question, education and health care ? About where to spend ?
If our education has nothing to do with our english speaking then where did we get it from ?
Do you think we followed chinese-copy-technique ?
Even after boasting so much 6/10 Chinese doesn't know to frame and speak a sentence in english. Come to India, we will show you how it is done. Or wait, export Chinese like RAMs and toys to USA and make them learn and speak English and then reverse-engineer them (import). So that tomorrow you can also boast that China and USA are in same league in language !!

If you think only communist-BS education is the real deal then most Indians are illiterate according to your state inflicted thought process which lacks logic and rationality. I totally agree with you !!
Don't talk about China when you talk about Europe, NA and EA. They are far far better than you. Don't place the paper dragon in the leagues of the big. Yours was a funny-futile-farce attempt.

I see that you and your friends here cannot accept the reality that India is also growing.
Can't help it. Wait for another 10 years, we will send a Mars rover mission up your spine.

 

[TaiShang]

At least I have my religion. What do you have

Pragmatism. Historicism. Dialectics.

You guys only know reverse-engineering.

One thing we are sure not to reverse engineer is the Indian experience.

Even after boasting so much 6/10 Chinese doesn't know to frame and speak a sentence in english. Come to India, we will show you how it is done.

Yeah, call-centers prove it, which my adviser in the US used to hate.

If you think only communist-BS education is the real deal then most Indians are illiterate according to your state inflicted thought process which lacks logic and rationality.

On the other hand, in global competitions (both mental and physical), India is nowhere to be seen while China is always among the top pack.

I see that you and your friends here cannot accept the reality that India is also growing.

So is sub-Saharan Africa. What is your point?

Can't help it. Wait for another 10 years, we will send a Mars rover mission up your spine.

Yes, lots of things you will do if we could wait for another ten years. What is intriguing is, this ten-year quota starts anew every January 1st.

By the way, I did not like the title. It is not academic; but attention grabbing. Western journalism is garbage in these ages.

China would not hit anyone in any ways. We are here to do business and protect our national sovereignty.

 

[Shotgunner51]

A chinese child calling other countries poor !!
Each and every Chinese is a billionaire ? Number of poor in China is mostly downplayed and the GDP numbers are mostly inflated. World Bank figures ? Only fools will completely rely on those and stage an argument based on it.
Every report and statistics which global organizations release every year is "strategically motivated". Do you even know that ? Those never show the real picture. Moreover all these indices doesn't apply on high population nations like China and India. Both nations have extremely poor and extremely rich population blocks.

An indian kid denying global organizations? Alright, if you say fools make argument based on info from global organizations, what do you say about an indian kid making arguments based out of absolutely nothing? A delusional kid in denial mode?

No, I have no idea on these Bretton Wood institutes being "strategically motivated" to show indian per capita being lower than Sub-Saharan-Africa, that's very exciting news, can you explain? How about the bank balance, it's the Reserve Bank of india that says it's a trade deficit nation, a debtor nation, are they "strategically motivated" to show an indebted india?

Share market figures: When your policy makers are not literate and strong enough to play the big games why the heck China is even competing at that level. Who even talked of India being a rich country ? That time hasn't come yet. But China's time is over is the pressing point here. Don't even compare yourself with the USA. Just because you copied everything from them doesn't make you an USA replica. China still has a lot of things to experiment and learn to be an economic super power like the USA.

Who said anything about comparing with or replicating US, is it your objective to become a deficit and debtor nation? Well good news is that you are on track heading in the same direction, but mine is exactly opposite. Please compare China with East Asian economies only.

Remember you said if a market lost trillions in a short span of time then some basics must be missing, and I was asking you what are those basics. There were more than one market with such experience. So, what are those basics?

What really matters is how much people spend on quality education, health care etc.
Education : An efficient "English speaking" work force is already a reality in India. I do not care of what other countries are up to.

Taking out the native speaking countries, here are the countries with most English speakers: india, Nigeria, Philippines Bangladesh. Looking at ground realities, does this list perform better than non-English speaking countries so far?

List of countries by English-speaking population - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia​

Health care? Let's look at the ground realities again, among the poorest health indicators in the world, say hunger, childhood stunting as a result of open defecation, mortality rates, life expectancy, vitamin A supplementation coverage, immunization DPT, etc. Let's discuss in the following thread:

How Bangladesh, Nepal and Vietnam beat India hollow in health indicators
Open Defecation and Childhood Stunting in India: An Ecological Analysis of New Data from 112 Districts
Open defecation solves the child mortality puzzle among Indian Muslims | Ars Technica​

In 2012 London Olympics, india ranked 55, behind Bahamas, Grenda and Uganda. If Olympics is too complicated, how about the most basic sports - athletics? In 2015 IAAF World Championships, indian team scored only 1 point in final Placing Table, on par with KSA, Modolva and Ecuador. How about another ordinary sports - swimming? In 2015 World Aquatics, indian team simply scored zero. Singapore, Lithuania, Malaysia & Argentina each got at least one medal.

BBC Sport - London 2012 Olympics - Medal Table
15th IAAF World Championships Placing Table - iaaf.org
16th FINA World Championships 2015 in Kazan - official website​

If you have poor health, weren't built for physique, but built for brain? Alright put aside Richard Lynn's findings about low intelligence quotient (IQ), let's talk education how about basic literacy rate? Not to mention international schooling competition results like PISA, Maths Olympiad and others. How about crystalizing intellectual efforts, if there is any so to speak of? Check poor results at WIPO Global Ranking 2014.

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[ThaniOruvan]

Yeah, call-centers prove it, which my adviser in the US used to hate.

That is what Indians do best. Communicate with customers effectively. Can you people even come near that? Can you even talk about that ? Get a deep sleep and then think clearly.

On the other hand, in global competitions (both mental and physical), India is nowhere to be seen while China is always among the top pack.

If you are so illiterate just read how India gave you and the West a hard run in the recent climate deal.
Good international player plays only to his strengths and does not flex muscles too much and get hurt easily (like Chinese children).

An indian kid denying global organizations? Alright, if you say fools make argument based on info from global organizations, what do you say about an indian kid making arguments based out of absolutely nothing? A delusional kid in denial mode?

No, I have no idea on these Bretton Wood institutes being "strategically motivated" to show indian per capita being lower than Sub-Saharan-Africa, that's very exciting news, can you explain? How about the bank balance, it's the Reserve Bank of india that says it's a trade deficit nation, a debtor nation, are they "strategically motivated" to show an indebted india?

China doesn't have debts ?

Who said anything about comparing with or replicating US, is it your objective to become a deficit and debtor nation? Well good news is that you are on track heading in the same direction, but mine is exactly opposite.

Remember you said if a market lost trillions in a short span of time then some basics must be missing, and I was asking you what are those basics. There were more than one market with such experience. So, what are those basics?

China relaxed regulations and let common people who can't withstand the rigor of share markets to play.
Isn't that a basic flaw ? I am talking of such panic moves which you made. I think you would have learnt lessons from that stock market wipe-out.

Taking out the native speaking countries, here are the countries with most English speakers: india, Nigeria, Philippines Bangladesh. Looking at ground realities, does this list perform better than non-English speaking countries so far?

List of countries by English-speaking population - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia​

Health care? Let's look at the ground realities again, among the poorest health indicators in the world, say hunger, childhood stunting as a result of open defecation, mortality rates, life expectancy, vitamin A supplementation coverage, immunization DPT, etc. Let's discuss in the following thread:

How Bangladesh, Nepal and Vietnam beat India hollow in health indicators
Open Defecation and Childhood Stunting in India: An Ecological Analysis of New Data from 112 Districts
Open defecation solves the child mortality puzzle among Indian Muslims | Ars Technica​

In 2012 London Olympics, india ranked 55, behind Bahamas, Grenda and Uganda. If Olympics is too complicated, how about the most basic sports - athletics? In 2015 IAAF World Championships, indian team scored only 1 point in final Placing Table, on par with KSA, Modolva and Ecuador. How about another ordinary sports - swimming? In 2015 World Aquatics, indian team simply scored zero. Singapore, Lithuania, Malaysia & Argentina each got at least one medal.

BBC Sport - London 2012 Olympics - Medal Table
15th IAAF World Championships Placing Table - iaaf.org
16th FINA World Championships 2015 in Kazan - official website​

If you weren't built for physique but built for brain, alright put aside Richard Lynn's findings about low intelligence quotient, how about basic literacy rate? Not to mention international schooling competition results like PISA, Maths Olympiad and others. How about of intellectual results? Check poor results at WIPO Global Ranking 2014.

So you officially agree Chinese are English-illiterates. Thanks.
Coming to the indices, as I already said India and China cannot be compared to miniature nations like Nepal, Vietnam and Bangladesh. Our land is just huge to maintain. Agree ? Both the countries have both extremely rich and extremely poor, extremely intelligent and extremely dumb, extremely knowledegable and extremely dumb. Agree ?
What are chinese scores in those comps ?

 

[Shotgunner51]

So you officially agree Chinese are English-illiterates. Thanks.

No. On literacy, China (96.4%) is far higher than india (72.1%) which is even way below world average (86.3%). See UNESCO link: Education

But yes, China is proficient in Chinese, india is proficient in English.

China doesn't have debts ?

No, China is not a debtor nation, it's exactly opposite.

All countries have both external assets (including reserves) and external liabilities (including debts) on their external position or international position. When assets bigger than liabilities, the country is a creditor nation, otherwise it's a debtor nation. The term is Net International Investment Position or NIIP, creditor nation has it positive, debtor nation has it negative.

World's top five creditor economies are Japan, Germany, China Mainland, China Hong Kong, China Taiwan. China (combined) is the top creditor nation in the world. With record-breaking trade surplus (China Mainland alone is expected to have $600 billions for this year) like East Asian model or Germany have been doing for decades, China's position will further be strengthened.

You country is a debtor nation. Ranks in the bottom five in the world NIIP, worse than any Sub-Saharan nation or PIIGS (except Spain). You don't print international currency, how can you replicate "success" of US?

 

[TaiShang]

That is what Indians do best. Communicate with customers effectively. Can you people even come near that? Can you even talk about that ? Get a deep sleep and then think clearly.

I would say I am not impressed at all, my friend, if your benchmark of effective communication is call-centers.

If you are so illiterate just read how India gave you and the West a hard run in the recent climate deal.
Good international player plays only to his strengths and does not flex muscles too much and get hurt easily (like Chinese children).

On the climate change issues, China, India and a bunch of developing nations have stood a more or less similar grounds. That has been historically so.

 

[xunzi]

Looks like you have developed a habit of speaking without facts

You know, I know, and everyone knows you interfere in Nepal politics. Don't even lie about it. LOL

 

[mike2000 is back]

What's all these insults about? over a small developing country like Nepal? lol

 

[Beidou2020]

What's all these insults about? over a small developing country like Nepal? lol

For once I agree with you.

 

[Plenipotentiary]

I would say I am not impressed at all, my friend, if your benchmark of effective communication is call-centers.

they only excel at english, progress is a secondary notion to their brain cells

 

[ThaniOruvan]

No. On literacy, China (96.4%) is far higher than india (72.1%) which is even way below world average (86.3%). See UNESCO link: Education

But yes, China is proficient in Chinese, india is proficient in English.

No, China is not a debtor nation, it's exactly opposite.

All countries have both external assets (including reserves) and external liabilities (including debts) on their external position or international position. When assets bigger than liabilities, the country is a creditor nation, otherwise it's a debtor nation. The term is Net International Investment Position or NIIP, creditor nation has it positive, debtor nation has it negative.

World's top five creditor economies are Japan, Germany, China Mainland, China Hong Kong, China Taiwan. China (combined) is the top creditor nation in the world. With record-breaking trade surplus (China Mainland alone is expected to have $600 billions for this year) like East Asian model or Germany have been doing for decades, China's position will further be strengthened.

You country is a debtor nation. Ranks in the bottom five in the world NIIP, worse than any Sub-Saharan nation or PIIGS (except Spain). You don't print international currency, how can you replicate "success" of US?

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Not just English. India is home to many languages higher than what you can hear in Europe and the Americas put together.

You are not getting what I am trying to put here. India is not powerful yet. I agree. Who even spoke of replicating the success of US ? India never tries to overpower any country, we just try to defend ourselves and safeguard our national interests unlike China which wants to goggle its mouth with the whole of SCS.

And China is powerful is far-fetched. Still there are a lot of challenges for you guys to overcome before calling yourselves that. Because there are big brothers in world politics who can break your knuckles and make you sit on a frying pan, is my argument.

Yuan is an international currency, Seriously? Just recently it was recognized by IMF, before that what was it? And, a chinese cannot speak on currency value. Whole world knows how controlled and manipulated YUAN is. It is not a freely traded currency unlike the Dollar, Euro or Rupee. So subject to your forceful valuation of Yuan your boasting of creditor value going out of China is completely a bloated up one. If your commie Government has guts let it freely trade yuan for a year and then we would know who is actually eating wet noodles.

Chinese did work hard. Who denied it ? But projecting as if you are the ones who invented hard work and yours is the true growth is absolutely jack shit.

P.S : 'jack shit' is a colloquial term used to describe something which is 'nothing' or 'empty'. Just added this point if you found it hard to understand this term and think that I used a profane language on you.

they only excel at english, progress is a secondary notion to their brain cells

You pundits do not have that cell at all. What can we do about it ?

I would say I am not impressed at all, my friend, if your benchmark of effective communication is call-centers.

Come over to India and see for yourselves how Indians play with English. Even Pakistanis are catching up these days.

On the climate change issues, China, India and a bunch of developing nations have stood a more or less similar grounds. That has been historically so.

My friend, please do not add China to that list. Because you along with the West are the big culprits who put a big hole on Earth's climate. The only reason you got away is you are still a developing nation. Or else India with other developing and poor nations would have forced you to reimburse that $100 billion plus bill.
Don't try to sing your sympathy rhythm here. You'll get caught red handed.