China curbs Ramadan fasting

[fly2012]

I agree, this is not by force but because of ideology of CCP. Again rule is nothing new, it is there from many many years in CCP.

Thanks, that's my point, Communism is a form of religion, one cannot truly believe in two religions at the same time, he/she cheats one way or the other. Nowadays probably no one in China believes in communism anyway, but that's a complete separate topic.

 

[INDIC]

Where is the ban on teachers and retired officials? How do you ban retired officials from "NOT eating" at home?? Sending polices to feed them?

You should see the video. I have no idea about mechanism, news report says that it was published government's decree.

But students are in school whole day, so CCP is trying to brainwash by forcing students not to fast, the future generation. Already there is rule barring kids from Mosques before 18 years.

 

[Jiang]

Well Marxists likes to dismiss religion because religion is considered a drug that makes the masses more complacent to the state. This applies to all religions, and doesn't single out specific ones.

So while communists dislike religion, they are not completely hostile, at least not in the ideological level.

 

[INDIC]

This is a BS thread. How can any Chinese Government regulate when its citizens eat. If the Muslims are fasting, are the chinese officials going to force-feed them. The thread makes no sense. Al Jazeera is known to act as a proxy for the West and Publish such BS articles to make trouble.

What about Turkish media and Turkish PM Erdogan's condemnation of China's mistreatment of Uighurs.
Turkish PM Erdogan likens Xinjiang violence to 'genocide' - FRANCE 24
UNPO: East Turkestan: Xinjiang Riots Damage Sino-Turkish Ties

 

[Nothing]

If the NEWS is False: HAVE SOME SHAME
If that NEWS is True: HAVE SOME SHAME

First read the thread and comments from @fly2012, may be title is wrote in such a way to make news sensationalize and content is not well researched. But this is what it is, as a CCP member and government employee you can show your religious affiliation to any other religion other than ideology of CCP.

Any way new agency who is reporting this is now a days a tool for elite in GCC.

 

[Xracer]

LOL Another Try To spread Flamebetween Pakistan and our Chinese Brothers.aaaahhh Indian Members Just Keeps Going man what are they made of Well its their Country They have Right to do anything they also dont stop us from anything. In my opinion we should not fight our Religious Not even with with India.Because in Islam they dont said to kill or fight with anyone to accept Islam Unless anyone try to mess with your Religious or try to destroy it then you should take an act and Shove F16s,JFthunders and any thing you Got in their.NO NO NO This is Month of Ramadan.Cool downman cooldown if you wise i think you got it otherwise tune into POGOoooooooooo

 

[INDIC]

Well Marxists likes to dismiss religion because religion is considered a drug that makes the masses more complacent to the state. This applies to all religions, and doesn't single out specific ones.

Forcing atheism on anyone is violation of religious freedom.

 

[gpit]

Thanks, that's my point, Communism is a form of religion, one cannot truly believe in two religions at the same time, he/she cheats one way or the other. Nowadays probably no one in China believes in communism anyway, but that's a complete separate topic.

I disagree.

In a religion, you are not supposedly to question or challenge the god(s). You obey it, follow it, and worship it. Of course you can study it.

In communism, At least Chinese communism, you can question and challenge the theory and perfect it. This is precisely how Deng Xiaoping and his followers were/are doing or are attempting to do it.

 

[Roybot]

Any other source to substantiate this ? Some 'Government Document' circulated to the officials ? Anything....?

If the NEWS is False: HAVE SOME SHAME
If that NEWS is True: HAVE SOME SHAME

Here's another one,

China restricts Ramadan fasting for Uighurs in Xinjiang - The West Australian

BEIJING (AFP) - Authorities in China's restive northwestern region of Xinjiang have banned Muslim officials and students from fasting during Ramadan, prompting an exiled rights group to warn of new violence.

A statement from Zonglang township in Xinjiang's Kashgar district said that "the county committee has issued comprehensive policies on maintaining social stability during the Ramadan period.

"It is forbidden for Communist Party cadres, civil officials (including those who have retired) and students to participate in Ramadan religious activities."

 

[Armstrong]

Here's another one,

China restricts Ramadan fasting for Uighurs in Xinjiang - The West Australian

It says : Guidance posted on numerous government websites called on Communist Party leaders to restrict Muslim religious activities during the holy month, including fasting and visiting mosques.

I'd be much obliged if you can post a link to one of these websites !

 

[BigDaddyWatch]

Once again if you're going to post a story then post it completly a not just the part that underwrites you're views i went to the original article and the fasting restrictions are only for civil servants and party cadre's and some students so the common folks are allowed to fast during Ramadan as always. And how does our Indian friends here always seems to speak from a moral high ground on Xinjiang and Tibet when you are occupying Kashmir and are killing innocent people's there almost on a daily basis not to mention the untouchables that are treated less then human.

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

Once again if you're going to post a story then post it completly a not just the part that underwrites you're views i went to the original article and the fasting restrictions are only for civil servants and party cadre's and some students so the common folks are allowed to fast during Ramadan as always. And how does our Indian friends here always seems to speak from a moral high ground on Xinjiang and Tibet when you are occupying Kashmir and are killing innocent people's there almost on a daily basis not to mention the untouchables that are treated less then human.

WTF, the exact same story as last time?

I.e. It only applies to CPC offcials, and not to the people of Xinjiang?

To think, I was actually worried there for a second.

 

[Zulkarneyn]

I have to add this before eating a toast (don't worry i fast too i am making sahur right now)

Al Jazeera is like Pakistanisage said very anti-china, especially the last couple of years that i have followed Al Jazeera. If you watch the program in Al Jazeera called 101 East, every time they show China it is always in a very negative light. I don't know where Al Jazeera is based but why in god's name do they never ever show ANY criticism towards Saudi Arabia or UAE or European countries? They are biased, hence as long as i don't read this "development" from other sources i won't bandwagon.

 

[Roybot]

It says : Guidance posted on numerous government websites called on Communist Party leaders to restrict Muslim religious activities during the holy month, including fasting and visiting mosques.

I'd be much obliged if you can post a link to one of these websites !

Found something,

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Google Translate

Ramadan" period of social stability and party members and cadres to comply with the political discipline to carry out supervision of the notice​

- Prohibit the party members, members, public servants and retired personnel involved in the implementation of fasting and religious activities;

3 , the discipline inspection and supervision organs at all levels should intensify supervision and inspection to comply with the political discipline of public servants and retirees. Prohibited the Party members and cadres and public officials (including retired staff) and school students to participate in Lent and other religious activities on the participants in an investigation will be severely dealt with, will not be tolerated, regardless of-the-job, retirement party members will be expelled from the party, the national public persons discharged from public employment, the qualifications of the "four old officer" Cancel "old staff".

The Chinese folks here could probably give us a better translation. But if the media world over is reporting it, they must have the verified the authenticity of the news.

 

[jaunty]

I have to add this before eating a toast (don't worry i fast too i am making sahur right now)

Al Jazeera is like Pakistanisage said very anti-china, especially the last couple of years that i have followed Al Jazeera. If you watch the program in Al Jazeera called 101 East, every time they show China it is always in a very negative light. I don't know where Al Jazeera is based but why in god's name do they never ever show ANY criticism towards Saudi Arabia or UAE or European countries? They are biased, hence as long as i don't read this "development" from other sources i won't bandwagon.

Other sources--

Pakistani--1. China restricts Ramazan fasting in restive Xinjiang – The Express Tribune

2. http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=2012\08\02\story_2-8-2012_pg14_6

Australian-- China restricts Ramadan fasting in restive Xinjiang - Australia Network News - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)

UAE-- China region bans Muslims from fasting during Ramadan - The National