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How would you rank the nuclear technologies from the various countries.

What I mean is which one would be the best value for money.

Keep your explanation simple, I am not familiar with the acronyms.


These are all latest generation (G-III) reactors.

AP1000 is operational (and under construction) in both China and US. Toshiba, through UK subsidiary Nu Gen, is also planning to build 3 AP1000s in UK (at Moorside, near Shellafield nuclear reprocessing site in Cumbria, England), now in the phase of Generic Design Assessment.

KEPCO-KHNP is constructing 4 APR1400s in UAE at Barakah, first ever nuclear plant in GCC, now about two-thirds complete, ahead of schedule. The SK consortium is also in discussion with UK about Cumbria project.

The biggest concern is EPR, which has already collapsed Areva in Finland project. Now that EDF has to save Areva by buying the majority of its €2.5bn reactor business, don't forget an €37bn of net debt (which dwarfs its €22bn market capitalisation), and that EDF also faces an estimated €55bn bill in the coming decade just to increase the life expectancy (from current 40 years to 50) of the 58 nuclear power stations. That's why I am cautiously optimistic about Hinkley. Now that CGN is onboard, more technological options (e.g. Hualong One, several are under construction in China) are available, especially for subsequent projects like Sizewell, Bradwell.

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These are all latest generation (G-III) reactors.

AP1000 is operational (and under construction) in both China and US. Toshiba, through UK subsidiary Nu Gen, is also planning to build 3 AP1000s in UK (at Moorside, near Shellafield nuclear reprocessing site in Cumbria, England), now in the phase of Generic Design Assessment.

KEPCO-KHNP is constructing 4 APR1400s in UAE at Barakah, first ever nuclear plant in GCC, now about two-thirds complete, ahead of schedule. The SK consortium is also in discussion with UK about Cumbria project.

The biggest concern is EPR, which has already collapsed Areva in Finland project. Now that EDF has to save Areva by buying the majority of its €2.5bn reactor business, don't forget an €37bn of net debt (which dwarfs its €22bn market capitalisation), and that EDF also faces an estimated €55bn bill in the coming decade just to increase the life expectancy (from current 40 years to 50) of the 58 nuclear power stations. That's why I am cautiously optimistic about Hinkley. Now that CGN is onboard, more technological options (e.g. Hualong One, several are under construction in China) are available, especially for subsequent projects like Sizewell, Bradwell.

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It's very interesting to witness the paradigm shift in the global context....
 
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My concern is not about UK, but the French partner EDF-Areva

How's the working relationship with Alstom (now part of GE)? They'll be building steam turbines as part of a 1.9 billion USD deal at the Hinkley Point C plant.

Any concerns about Alstom and by extension GE?

AP1000 is operational (and under construction) in both China and US.

This is an interesting dynamic. China is building up its nuclear power generation capabilities while the US already has over 100 plants active and little appetite for more. With gas prices diving in the US, natural gas has been the go-to for a while now and renewables like solar and wind are picking up traction greatly, especially with wind along the US East Coast with the Atlantic trade winds bringing constant sources of generation.

While I doubt they'll stop innovating and experimenting, as the US has hundreds more experimental reactors not connected to the grid (or often regulated), it'll be interesting to see how GE or Westinghouse are impacted by the downturn in US interest in nuclear power.

I suspect, as they've begun to, that innovation in renewables will become their new focus while the US slows its innovations and interest in nuclear... at least until political concerns die down, and to this point, they are the main impediment to nuclear power in the US. Fortunetly for China, it largely doesn't have that problem at the federal level (though I've heard the local level can occasionally be problematic).

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The four plants in the US under construction - Vogtly and Virgil C Summers are behind schedule.

Vogtle 4 one year ago.
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Political pressures is to blame.
 
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These are all latest generation (G-III) reactors.

AP1000 is operational (and under construction) in both China and US. Toshiba, through UK subsidiary Nu Gen, is also planning to build 3 AP1000s in UK (at Moorside, near Shellafield nuclear reprocessing site in Cumbria, England), now in the phase of Generic Design Assessment.

KEPCO-KHNP is constructing 4 APR1400s in UAE at Barakah, first ever nuclear plant in GCC, now about two-thirds complete, ahead of schedule. The SK consortium is also in discussion with UK about Cumbria project.

The biggest concern is EPR, which has already collapsed Areva in Finland project. Now that EDF has to save Areva by buying the majority of its €2.5bn reactor business, don't forget an €37bn of net debt (which dwarfs its €22bn market capitalisation), and that EDF also faces an estimated €55bn bill in the coming decade just to increase the life expectancy (from current 40 years to 50) of the 58 nuclear power stations. That's why I am cautiously optimistic about Hinkley. Now that CGN is onboard, more technological options (e.g. Hualong One, several are under construction in China) are available, especially for subsequent projects like Sizewell, Bradwell.

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You use terms such as "cautiously optimistic about Hinkley" project.

These terms still don't hide the fact that Areva is in deep financial difficulty and if EDF is not careful, it will also share the same fate.

My take - it is not very good participating in the French Areva /EDF nuclear reactor project. They are going bankrupt and there won't be any new R&D coming from them.

Why is China's CGN still getting in bed with the French's EDF in Hinkley?

Did I miss something?
 
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Could China build the world’s smallest nuclear power plant and send it to the South China Sea?

Nuclear plant under development could fit into a shipping container and make a small island economically viable

PUBLISHED : Tuesday, 11 October, 2016, 7:03am
UPDATED : Tuesday, 11 October, 2016, 9:11am

9 Oct 2016

A top mainland research institute is developing the world’s smallest nuclear power plant, which could fit inside a shipping container and might be installed on an island in the disputed South China Sea within five years.

Researchers are carrying out intensive work on the unit – dubbed the hedianbao, or “portable nuclear battery pack”.

Although the small, lead-cooled reactor could be placed inside a shipping container measuring about 6.1 metres long and 2.6 metres high, it would be able to generate 10 megawatts of heat, which, if converted into electricity, would be enough to power some 50,000 households.


It is also capable of running for years or even decades without refuelling, and scientists say that because it produces neither dust nor smoke, even on a small island a resident would hardly notice its existence.

The research is partially funded by the People’s Liberation Army.

Researchers at the Chinese Academy of Sciences’ Institute of Nuclear Energy Safety Technology, a national research institute in Hefei, Anhui province, say they hope to be able to ship the first unit within five years.

China’s nuclear plant makers seek new markets along the ancient Silk Road into Asia, Europe, Africa and Middle East

“Part of our funding came from the military, but we hope – and it’s our ultimate goal – that the technology will eventually benefit civilian users,” Professor Huang Qunying,a nuclear scientist involved in the research, said.

The Chinese researchers admit their technology is similar to a compact lead-cooled thermal reactor that was used by the navy of the former Soviet Union in its nuclear submarines in the 1970s.

However, China would probably be the first nation to use such military technology on land.

While these “baby” reactors would able to generate large quantities of electricity and desalinate huge supplies of seawater for use as fresh water, they have also attracted serious environmental concerns.


If any one of them were to suffer a catastrophic problem, the radioactive waste would affect not only the countries nearby, but also spread around the world via the region’s strong sea currents.

This type of reactor is often known as a fast reactor, as it uses high-speed neutrons to split the fuel atoms. A fast reactor has some significant advantages over normal reactors. The fast neurons can split the atoms of nearly all fissile materials, including the waste left over by traditional thermal power plants, thus dramatically increasing fuel efficiency.

Also, the lead-based liquid metal the reactor uses as a cooling system does not boil until it reaches a temperature of 1,400 degrees Celsius, which makes the reactor safer than any existing thermal one in commercial operation today.

Technician shortage in China ‘threatens nuclear plant safety’

However, Huang said it would still be a challenge to convince people that the technology was safe to use. A lack of public awareness about the new technology could hinder its widespread application, he added.

The lead-cooled reactor is part of China’s efforts to develop new-generation reactors for its rapidly expanding nuclear energy sector. Other technological approaches, such as molten salt reactors and high-temperature gas-cooled reactors, are also under rapid development thanks to generous government funding.

China also has been considering building small floating power plants using conventional technology to generate electricity for the South China Sea islands.

Harnessing the ocean: China’s military looks to wave farms to power radar on remote islands as South China Sea disputes simmer

A marine environment researcher at the Ocean University of China, in Qingdao, Shandong province, has warned that the inevitable discharge of hot, radioactive water from a nuclear plant into the ocean might alter the ecological system of an entire region around an island.

“Many fish and marine creatures will not be able to deal with the dramatic change of environment caused by massive desalination and the rise of sea temperatures caused by a nuclear reactor,” said the researcher, who declined to be named.

“If a nuclear disaster happened in the South China Sea, it would not have an immediate effect on people living on the mainland owing to it being a great distance away,” the researcher said.

“But the radioactive waste would enter the bodies of fish and other marine creatures and likely end up on our dining tables. Sea currents could also carry the waste to distant shores,” she said.

Before putting any nuclear power plant on a remote South China Sea island, the Chinese government should consider not only its political, military or economic benefits, but also carry out comprehensive scientific evaluations on its potential environmental impact, the researcher said.

http://www.scmp.com/news/china/dipl...ro-reactor-may-power-south-china-sea-outposts
 
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Could China build the world’s smallest nuclear power plant and send it to the South China Sea?

Nuclear plant under development could fit into a shipping container and make a small island economically viable

PUBLISHED : Tuesday, 11 October, 2016, 7:03am
UPDATED : Tuesday, 11 October, 2016, 9:11am

9 Oct 2016

A top mainland research institute is developing the world’s smallest nuclear power plant, which could fit inside a shipping container and might be installed on an island in the disputed South China Sea within five years.

Researchers are carrying out intensive work on the unit – dubbed the hedianbao, or “portable nuclear battery pack”.

Although the small, lead-cooled reactor could be placed inside a shipping container measuring about 6.1 metres long and 2.6 metres high, it would be able to generate 10 megawatts of heat, which, if converted into electricity, would be enough to power some 50,000 households.


It is also capable of running for years or even decades without refuelling, and scientists say that because it produces neither dust nor smoke, even on a small island a resident would hardly notice its existence.

The research is partially funded by the People’s Liberation Army.

Researchers at the Chinese Academy of Sciences’ Institute of Nuclear Energy Safety Technology, a national research institute in Hefei, Anhui province, say they hope to be able to ship the first unit within five years.

China’s nuclear plant makers seek new markets along the ancient Silk Road into Asia, Europe, Africa and Middle East

“Part of our funding came from the military, but we hope – and it’s our ultimate goal – that the technology will eventually benefit civilian users,” Professor Huang Qunying,a nuclear scientist involved in the research, said.

The Chinese researchers admit their technology is similar to a compact lead-cooled thermal reactor that was used by the navy of the former Soviet Union in its nuclear submarines in the 1970s.

However, China would probably be the first nation to use such military technology on land.

While these “baby” reactors would able to generate large quantities of electricity and desalinate huge supplies of seawater for use as fresh water, they have also attracted serious environmental concerns.


If any one of them were to suffer a catastrophic problem, the radioactive waste would affect not only the countries nearby, but also spread around the world via the region’s strong sea currents.

This type of reactor is often known as a fast reactor, as it uses high-speed neutrons to split the fuel atoms. A fast reactor has some significant advantages over normal reactors. The fast neurons can split the atoms of nearly all fissile materials, including the waste left over by traditional thermal power plants, thus dramatically increasing fuel efficiency.

Also, the lead-based liquid metal the reactor uses as a cooling system does not boil until it reaches a temperature of 1,400 degrees Celsius, which makes the reactor safer than any existing thermal one in commercial operation today.

Technician shortage in China ‘threatens nuclear plant safety’

However, Huang said it would still be a challenge to convince people that the technology was safe to use. A lack of public awareness about the new technology could hinder its widespread application, he added.

The lead-cooled reactor is part of China’s efforts to develop new-generation reactors for its rapidly expanding nuclear energy sector. Other technological approaches, such as molten salt reactors and high-temperature gas-cooled reactors, are also under rapid development thanks to generous government funding.

China also has been considering building small floating power plants using conventional technology to generate electricity for the South China Sea islands.

Harnessing the ocean: China’s military looks to wave farms to power radar on remote islands as South China Sea disputes simmer

A marine environment researcher at the Ocean University of China, in Qingdao, Shandong province, has warned that the inevitable discharge of hot, radioactive water from a nuclear plant into the ocean might alter the ecological system of an entire region around an island.

“Many fish and marine creatures will not be able to deal with the dramatic change of environment caused by massive desalination and the rise of sea temperatures caused by a nuclear reactor,” said the researcher, who declined to be named.

“If a nuclear disaster happened in the South China Sea, it would not have an immediate effect on people living on the mainland owing to it being a great distance away,” the researcher said.

“But the radioactive waste would enter the bodies of fish and other marine creatures and likely end up on our dining tables. Sea currents could also carry the waste to distant shores,” she said.

Before putting any nuclear power plant on a remote South China Sea island, the Chinese government should consider not only its political, military or economic benefits, but also carry out comprehensive scientific evaluations on its potential environmental impact, the researcher said.

http://www.scmp.com/news/china/dipl...ro-reactor-may-power-south-china-sea-outposts

Looks like China will "take back" SCS by developing it into a sea of prosperity, innovation and high-standards.
 
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If anyone can do it, China can.

Used to be that mega challenges could be taken on by the USA, complex challenges by Japan and precision challenges by several European nations. China is climbing to mega scale and the others have stopped shining in their specialties. They are more immersed in social challenges (and scams) rather than winning by science engineering and scaling.
 
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China making world's smallest nuclear power plant, may put it in South China Sea
CNBC.com•October 11, 2016

Nuclear plant under development could fit into a shipping container and make a small island economically viable

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A top mainland research institute is developing the world's smallest nuclear power plant, which could fit inside a shipping container and might be installed on an island in the disputed South China Sea within five years.

Researchers are carrying out intensive work on the unit – dubbed the hedianbao, or "portable nuclear battery pack".

Although the small, lead-cooled reactor could be placed inside a shipping container measuring about 6.1 metres long and 2.6 metres high, it would be able to generate 10 megawatts of heat, which, if converted into electricity, would be enough to power some 50,000 households.

It is also capable of running for years or even decades without refuelling, and scientists say that because it produces neither dust nor smoke, even on a small island a resident would hardly notice its existence.

The research is partially funded by the People's Liberation Army.

Researchers at the Chinese Academy of Sciences' Institute of Nuclear Energy Safety Technology, a national research institute in Hefei, Anhui province, say they hope to be able to ship the first unit within five years.

The Chinese researchers admit their technology is similar to a compact lead-cooled thermal reactor that was used by the navy of the former Soviet Union in its nuclear submarines in the 1970s.

However, China would probably be the first nation to use such military technology on land.

While these "baby" reactors would able to generate large quantities of electricity and desalinate huge supplies of seawater for use as fresh water, they have also attracted serious environmental concerns.

If any one of them were to suffer a catastrophic problem, the radioactive waste would affect not only the countries nearby, but also spread around the world via the region's strong sea currents.

This type of reactor is often known as a fast reactor, as it uses high-speed neutrons to split the fuel atoms. A fast reactor has some significant advantages over normal reactors. The fast neurons can split the atoms of nearly all fissile materials, including the waste left over by traditional thermal power plants, thus dramatically increasing fuel efficiency.

Also, the lead-based liquid metal the reactor uses as a cooling system does not boil until it reaches a temperature of 1,400 degrees Celsius, which makes the reactor safer than any existing thermal one in commercial operation today.

However, Huang said it would still be a challenge to convince people that the technology was safe to use. A lack of public awareness about the new technology could hinder its widespread application, he added.

The lead-cooled reactor is part of China's efforts to develop new-generation reactors for its rapidly expanding nuclear energy sector. Other technological approaches, such as molten salt reactors and high-temperature gas-cooled reactors, are also under rapid development thanks to generous government funding.

China also has been considering building small floating power plants using conventional technology to generate electricity for the South China Sea islands.

A marine environment researcher at the Ocean University of China, in Qingdao, Shandong province, has warned that the inevitable discharge of hot, radioactive water from a nuclear plant into the ocean might alter the ecological system of an entire region around an island.

"Many fish and marine creatures will not be able to deal with the dramatic change of environment caused by massive desalination and the rise of sea temperatures caused by a nuclear reactor," said the researcher, who declined to be named.

"If a nuclear disaster happened in the South China Sea, it would not have an immediate effect on people living on the mainland owing to it being a great distance away," the researcher said.

"But the radioactive waste would enter the bodies of fish and other marine creatures and likely end up on our dining tables. Sea currents could also carry the waste to distant shores," she said.

Before putting any nuclear power plant on a remote South China Sea island, the Chinese government should consider not only its political, military or economic benefits, but also carry out comprehensive scientific evaluations on its potential environmental impact, the researcher said.

http://www.cnbc.com/2016/10/11/coul...plant-and-send-it-to-the-south-china-sea.html


 
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China working on world's smallest nuclear power plant:media
(CRI Online) 18:35, October 13, 2016
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The photo shows a screenshot of the mini reactor dubbed "portable nuclear battery pack"from CCTV news on September 28. [File photo]

A top mainland research institute is reportedly developing the world's smallest nuclearpower plant, South China Morning Post reports.

It said that the nuclear plant under development could fit inside a shipping containermeasuring about 6.1 meters long and 2.6 meters high.

It would be able to generate 10 megawatts of heat, and if converted into electricity wouldbe enough to power some 50,000 households, according to the paper.

The nuclear plant is also capable of running for years or even decades without refueling,and scientists say that because it produces neither dust nor smoke, even on a small island aresident would hardly notice its existence.

The report says that the micro power plant might be installed on islands in the South ChinaSea in the near future.

Professor Huang Qunying, a nuclear scientist involved in the research, said their ultimategoal was to benefit civilian users in the South China Morning Post report.

Another researcher is hoping they could complete a small-sized nuclear reactor within 5years, says the report.
 
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But at such a small size, how much shielding for radiation is provided?
It is a bit scary at the moment but may be more details can alley these genuine apprehensions.
 
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USA already have them. They stuff 30 years worth of fuel at a time and dispose it once the life is over. The reactor is completely sealed for its entire lifetime.
 
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