China became the first friend of the Russians

[Chhatrapati]

I said single, if you are going to go by a group, than I must say, Africa is a bigger trade partner than Africa for China.

*Sigh* I didn't say single. Is 'west' that hard to understand? And mind you the topic I was discussing is west, not anyone else. You quote me with all other stuff which I didn't even mention in my post.

What is happening here am I speaking French? I believe I just wasted my time, you have no understanding of what I am even trying to convey, much less have a debate about it. Let's not do this again.

Indeed you wasted your time and my time over a non-issue. Read my original post and move on. You are not speaking French but you have comprehension issue in English. So, please don't speak French too.

Have a good day.

 

[Genesis]

*Sigh* I didn't say single. Is 'west' that hard to understand? And mind you the topic I was discussing is west, not anyone else. You quote me with all other stuff which I didn't even mention in my post.


Indeed you wasted your time and my time over a non-issue. Read my original post and move on. You are not speaking French but you have comprehension issue in English. So, please don't speak French too.

Have a good day.

You know what I'm in a good mood. We'll go one by one.

"If that's not what you are saying, then you didn't say anything at all. The topic is Russian alliance, then you said largest trading partners to Russia is the West. Why make that comment, if you don't think it's going to affect this topic. EU is also important to China, Also important to Africa. So what, what does being the largest trading partner for EU affect Russia being an ally of China. I don't agree or disagree, but you didn't make it clear why it is so."

Do you agree with this that this is what I said. Not with the Message, just if this is what I said.
if you didn't say Russia's trading with Western Europe plays a role with who its ally is, why did you mention it.


Now if you disagree with this statement, you must, at the same token, explain why it wouldn't matter for the US.

 

[Tauren Paladin]

Not due to the territorial disputes. Soviet wanted to subject China to its communistic bloc. China wanted to be independent.

That was in the past, China and Russia have resolved their territorial disputes. From now on, it is to foster a close mutual relationship with Russia. It's better to make alliances with neighboring countries.

 

[nang2]

That was in the past, China and Russia have resolved their territorial disputes. From now on, it is to foster a close mutual relationship with Russia. It's better to make alliances with neighboring countries.

Of course that was the past. That is why I used past tense and the word "Soviet", not "Russia".

 

[Chhatrapati]

Why make that comment

Because west is the largest trade partners
Let's go one by one as you said.
Largest trade partners of Russia.
Main exim partners the Netherlands, Germany, Italy, Belarus, US, make more than a quarter of their total exports and imports. Other European Union countries and some eastern European countries (incl. former Soviets) are not included.

EU is also important to China

Good, but my reply was to this post specifically.

Sad that Russia spend way too long a time thinking their future lies in Western Europe.

So what, what does being the largest trading partner for EU affect Russia being an ally of China.

Should I teach a Chinese that trade is a leverage?

if you didn't say Russia's trading with Western Europe plays a role with who its ally is, why did you mention it.

Because Russians can't ignore the west. Or Russia is in the west.

Now if you disagree with this statement

I do disagree with one thing though. The so-called ally thing with Russia. Sure you have some common interests. But, your relationship is far off from being called an ally. Australia is a US ally, Britain is another US ally. But the only true ally I see Russia has is Belarus. China is mostly a neutral partner. China wants both EU, US and Russia. Or China keeps her national interest first.

 

[Genesis]

Because west is the largest trade partners
Let's go one by one as you said.
Largest trade partners of Russia.
Main exim partners the Netherlands, Germany, Italy, Belarus, US, make more than a quarter of their total exports and imports. Other European Union countries and some eastern European countries (incl. former Soviets) are not included.

Good, but my reply was to this post specifically.


Should I teach a Chinese that trade is a leverage?

Because Russians can't ignore the west. Or Russia is in the west.

ok, can japan or korea, or america ignore China? If Russia cant ignore the west, why can these ignore China. The relationship between china and them is at least adversarial.

I do disagree with one thing though. The so-called ally thing with Russia. Sure you have some common interests. But, your relationship is far off from being called an ally. Australia is a US ally, Britain is another US ally. But the only true ally I see Russia has is Belarus. China is mostly a neutral partner. China wants both EU, US and Russia. Or China keeps her national interest first.

sure there could be multiple reasons why russian and china may not be allies. However, you mentioned economy, then i must ask, why is this a factor, when in Chinas case it suddenly doesnt apply.

 

[shootingstar]

China is a friend while India is the daughter of Mother Russia.

 

[yjdlbcj]

What I say here is just a growing relationship between Russia and China, which is independent of other countries and Russia. For example, go to the most sensitive area of the other and carry out military exercises. It's all good support.
People can see that more and more Russian students and tourists, as well as more and more Chinese and Russian marriages, their babies are really beautiful. Now even buying vegetables will meet the Russians.

 

[Kiss_of_the_Dragon]

Logically speaking, China and US has a trade relation for over 40 years, I believe most Chinese people have more education and business contact to US than Russia, American and Chinese could have been the close friend but because US government's arrogant to think that China should be like Japan and other submissive nations to be obedient and should back down to US's demand, this is not the way to make friend or maybe US just don't want to have friends at all but slaves.

 

[sinait]

ok, can japan or korea, or america ignore China? If Russia cant ignore the west, why can these ignore China. The relationship between china and them is at least adversarial.

sure there could be multiple reasons why russian and china may not be allies. However, you mentioned economy, then i must ask, why is this a factor, when in Chinas case it suddenly doesnt apply.

Don't waste your time with this professional troll.
He can go 8 post on another member cannot choose to use "Nipali" instead of "Nepali".
He asked me to prove "Nipal" is the correct term to use, a triviality that has nothing to do with me.
You will need many years and thousands of post to have him concede.
Extraordinarily high tolerance of shame among Indians is not something we can understand.
.

 

[seesonic]

Don't waste your time with this professional troll.
He can go 8 post on another member cannot choose to use "Nipali" instead of "Nepali".
He asked me to prove "Nipal" is the correct term to use, a triviality that has nothing to do with me.
You will need many years and thousands of post to have him concede.
Extraordinarily high tolerance of shame among Indians is not something we can understand.
.

This southie is a troll with no substance.

He doesnt even know why IRNSS couldnt be used by civilians in India neither can he differentiate between ICJ and PCA.

 

[Chhatrapati]

ok, can japan or korea, or america ignore China? If Russia cant ignore the west, why can these ignore China. The relationship between china and them is at least adversarial.

Who said anything about ignoring China? Again re-read what I said, don't come to conclusion that Russia should ignore China and so and so.

sure there could be multiple reasons why russian and china may not be allies. However, you mentioned economy, then i must ask, why is this a factor, when in Chinas case it suddenly doesnt apply.

What do you mean?

He doesnt even know why IRNSS couldnt be used by civilians in India neither can he differentiate between ICJ and PCA.

So sorry for the grave mistake I made.

 

[sinait]

Appy Burnol. And Nipal in Hindi is a direct translation of English (Hinglish) term Nipple. Don't use words that you don't know, which can mean many things in other languages.

Are you sure you are in the right forum.?
Or you are smoking something wonderful.
THIS IS NOT A HINDI FORUM.
Hopefully you are not going another few hundred troll post on why anyone cannot choose to use "Nipal" instead of "Nepal".
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[Chinese-Dragon]

Nipple

I think you came to the wrong forum by accident.

 

[Chhatrapati]

I think you came to the wrong forum by accident.

Someone did, and that's not me.

Hopefully you are not going another few hundred troll post on why anyone cannot choose to use "Nipal" instead of "Nepal".

I just pointed out how it sounds when you use it. Use it correctly, don't assume and create theories later creating blunders. And this is not the place. Wrong section, if you want you can tag me there in the original discussion.