China-Bangladesh Relations and Potential for Regional Tensions

[eastwatch]

The above three news speak for themselves. An India-friendly govt in Dhaka is showing much confidence when that govt overtly wooes China, and seek project loans and award lucrative projects to the Chinese companies. The Chinese have been supplying us military hardwares for the last three decades at 'Friendship price.'

This has built up our strength. Even the Hijra AL is now confident that it can choose to annoy DADA India by seeking a close relationship with China. BD has to play with both these countries to get maximum advantage out of them. Our geographical location itself is our main strength. We should not play underdog in our relationship with India.

 

[TopCat]

The relationship with China will boost even further under the AL governement. Within days of assuming power AL sent it communication minister to China for Bangladesh China road and rail linking project. What AL is trying to do with India is to resolve all the outstanding issues with them and move forward.

 

[WarProfessor]

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BD has to play with both these countries to get maximum advantage out of them. Our geographical location itself is our main strength.
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You may have over-estimated your geographical importance, BD is almost totally surrounded by India.

 

[Omar1984]

Bangladesh should chose China over India.

China is a trustworthy friend and has helped Pakistan a lot. Also China is the most powerful country in Asia.

Browse through this section of the forum:
Economy & Development - Pakistan Defence Forum

 

[WarProfessor]

Bangladesh should chose China over India.

China is a trustworthy friend and has helped Pakistan a lot. Also China is the most powerful country in Asia.

Browse through this section of the forum:
Economy & Development - Pakistan Defence Forum

Actually you know what I think, BD is totally encicled by India, what BD does is probably not a bad strategy, BD doesn't seem to have other alternatives, unless it's part of some other state say for example Pak (no offense to our BD friends, just for the sake of talking). From a geographical strategic point of view, I personally believe that Nepal and Bhutan are two very important states (buffer states) to China. Oh yeah, Myanmar.

But close friends to China is only Pak and Cuba, make no mistake about it. North Korea, I don't know. Sometimes I can't help but think there maybe some under-the-table dealings between China and NK. It just doesn't seem to be what it is (between China & North Korea)

 

[Skies]

Do you know the news?:

Japan is not happy for our increasing dependency on China. They send a letter to the AL govt/other authority about their concern (News from ATN, today). They think increasing close relation with China may harm the relations between BD and others. Weird Japan, how they tolerate USA who nuked them! They have not get some works on some projects in BD like Padma Bridge for Chinese companies in the bidding. That's why they are acting.

 

[indushek]

You may have over-estimated your geographical importance, BD is almost totally surrounded by India.

Problem is that with the internet warriors around one gets a skewed view of everything. In particular false flag operations here are common and internet warriors venting their frustration are numerous.

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Do you know the news?:

Japan is not happy for our increasing dependency on China. They send a letter to the AL govt/other authority about their concern (News from ATN, today). They think increasing close relation with China may harm the relations between BD and others. Weird Japan, how they tolerate USA who nuked them! They have not get some works on some projects in BD like Padma Bridge for Chinese companies in the bidding. That's why they are acting.

Can u provide a source for this claim??

 

[integra]

Actually you know what I think, BD is totally encicled by India, what BD does is probably not a bad strategy, BD doesn't seem to have other alternatives, unless it's part of some other state say for example Pak (no offense to our BD friends, just for the sake of talking). From a geographical strategic point of view, I personally believe that Nepal and Bhutan are two very important states (buffer states) to China. Oh yeah, Myanmar.

But close friends to China is only Pak and Cuba, make no mistake about it. North Korea, I don't know. Sometimes I can't help but think there maybe some under-the-table dealings between China and NK. It just doesn't seem to be what it is (between China & North Korea)

Thats a stupid conclusion you've made there mate. You seem to think countries who only shares your border are important.China can't be the largest supplier of weaponry, financier of our most important deep sea ports and other projects for no reasons. Your own governor of yunnan province came a few months back to support the idea of road and railway connections.
Yes nepal, bhutan are important geographically but do they have balls or any military activity? go ahead hav good relations with the monks in bhutan. They have superman in their country who can help you with the buffer thing
Remember when we hav our port thing ready all of this countries (ne India,nepal bhutan,norther myanmar and eastern china) will depend on it for faster economy and transport.

oops just now I've discoverd i've responded to a post whose author might be dead by now. I mean its over a year old post.

 

[sab]

Thats a stupid conclusion you've made there mate. You seem to think countries who only shares your border are important.China can't be the largest supplier of weaponry, financier of our most important deep sea ports and other projects for no reasons. Your own governor of yunnan province came a few months back to support the idea of road and railway connections.
Yes nepal, bhutan are important geographically but do they have balls or any military activity? go ahead hav good relations with the monks in bhutan. They have superman in their country who can help you with the buffer thing
Remember when we hav our port thing ready all of this countries (ne India,nepal bhutan,norther myanmar and eastern china) will depend on it for faster economy and transport.
oops just now I've discoverd i've responded to a post whose author might be dead by now. I mean its over a year old post.

You just need to re-check the map of South Asia. That may wake you up from your dream.

 

[integra]

hmmm ok nepal getting transit facilities, bhutan does too. Ne india also needs a port and chinas yunan province really need a shorter transport from the sea. So where was I dreaming again?

 

[sab]

hmmm ok nepal getting transit facilities, bhutan does too. Ne india also needs a port and chinas yunan province really need a shorter transport from the sea. So where was I dreaming again?

Nepal and Bhutan can meet their demand from India and china and export their surplus to them without bothering about outer world. Even if they are given symbolic transit route through India, flow from these countries will be insignificant, at least to recover your huge investment in deep sea port.

You are not aware of China's investment and their already operational port in Burma. That gives China the shortest route to Indian Ocean.

India, Burma both have large coast lines to do sea trade.

BD can be very important to India only as it can give easier access to N-E. But India is doing without BD's help till now. India is investing heavily on Kaladan River Project in Burma to get an sea openning for N-E. It also make an India-Burma-China route possible. That does not eliminate importance of BD, but surely diminish its bergaining power. You need to offer a price below this alternative India-Burma-Indian N-E route for making any India-BD-Indian N-E route viable. (Please google about kaladan River Project for details).

 

[TopCat]

Nepal and Bhutan can meet their demand from India and china and export their surplus to them without bothering about outer world. Even if they are given symbolic transit route through India, flow from these countries will be insignificant, at least to recover your huge investment in deep sea port.

You are not aware of China's investment and their already operational port in Burma. That gives China the shortest route to Indian Ocean.

India, Burma both have large coast lines to do sea trade.

BD can be very important to India only as it can give easier access to N-E. But India is doing without BD's help till now. India is investing heavily on Kaladan River Project in Burma to get an sea openning for N-E. It also make an India-Burma-China route possible. That does not eliminate importance of BD, but surely diminish its bergaining power. You need to offer a price below this alternative India-Burma-Indian N-E route for making any India-BD-Indian N-E route viable. (Please google about kaladan River Project for details).

Well sab, I think you need to realign your thinking of how international trade is done through sea route. Even though you have a port in Myanmar and have access to it, yet you cant reduce the lead time neither cost of transporting the goods only because those ports does not handle enough cargoes which could be cost effective and time effective to India or China. For instance a if you want to ship something, lets a half a container of peanuts from Los Angeles to your NE then you contact a shipping agent. The agent will charge your credit card and give you a tentative date of shipment. Then he will start waiting for some more items to fill his rest of the container. Once the container is filled then he will contact a shipping line so that he could put that container to. But as the traffic is very low in those ports there will be very less ships coming to that destination, so that he has to wait weeks only to find a suitable ship which are bound to that destination. As you see, he has to charge you extra for covering his cost of waiting as well as will offer you more lead time for instance 3 monts instead of 15 days for you goods to reach your customer. In case of BD, we are already handling more than $50 bln dollar worth of cargoes a year through Chittagong port which will make it cheaper than any port offered by Myanmar.
There is another glitches specially for India. When BD could offer India 3 hours delivery time for any container after unloading in Chittagong to reach Indian territory whereas Myanmar could take up to 15 days through river ways and lab lab lab..
For China its a complete different story. We already have more than 5 bln dollar worth of trade with them which could be multiplied manifold once the deep sea port comes into action. Also better contacts will bring more investment from China. We will also get cheaper goods which we import from them as well.
For Nepal Bhutan it will be Mongla port not Chittagong as Calcutta is dying and for whatever reason Nepal just does not like India.

 

[integra]

Nepal and Bhutan can meet their demand from India and china and export their surplus to them without bothering about outer world. Even if they are given symbolic transit route through India, flow from these countries will be insignificant, at least to recover your huge investment in deep sea port.

You are not aware of China's investment and their already operational port in Burma. That gives China the shortest route to Indian Ocean.

India, Burma both have large coast lines to do sea trade.

BD can be very important to India only as it can give easier access to N-E. But India is doing without BD's help till now. India is investing heavily on Kaladan River Project in Burma to get an sea openning for N-E. It also make an India-Burma-China route possible. That does not eliminate importance of BD, but surely diminish its bergaining power. You need to offer a price below this alternative India-Burma-Indian N-E route for making any India-BD-Indian N-E route viable. (Please google about kaladan River Project for details).

Your Idea on nepal and bhutan signifies your ignorance, as if all of their life they wouldn need a closer sea port where they can do their own trade. About china, look at the map, burmese port is at the southmost point which one is closer ours or theirs? And i was also refering trade. Our economy and burmese economy isn't the same. Lastly on indias part. Do you have any idea what a deep sea port is? You have a large coastline. Myanmar also has it but so what? You are refering to a river project are you stupid?

 

[sab]

You are forgetting Burma is getting many port for the purpose. An Chinease port is already operational. And India is developping Sittwe port which helps cargo to go up kaladan river. It is not going to see traffic jam immediately. If necessary China and India can build up more ports or expand the existing ones. Come out of the dream only BD can have large port in the world.

BD has the advantage if you consider Kolkata as starting point of the route. But for Southern ports it matters little. You forgot Orissa is getteng couple of finest ports in the world. And your claim of l5 days time to transit via Burma is insane.

For nepal, there is no way out if they do not like India (even if I take your claim as true). They can easily trade through Odisa ports. A dep sea port in Sagar deep in Bengal has got government approval as alternative of Kolkata and Haldia.

BD does not offer any extra advantage to China for its location.

 

[integra]

well thank you but all the delegations from those country running after our ports doesn't seem to portray your viewpoint. Keep it up jealousy is a healthy practice.
By the way you can make so many ports but deep sea ports?