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China assisted Pakistan on armed drone, say experts

Everyone need assistance and especially developing countries, so what if Pakistan got some from china.

In the end they have an armed drone.
Logically very right. No technological developed is supposed to be starting just from scratch. Any technological developed is made on some foundation that is already developed.
 
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can you point out a single UAV made by DRDO by ToT or reverse engineering??? if you can't then STFU.
Tried but failed with Russian help Rustom-I & II and now begging Israel to purchase few. DRDO is a big friend of Pakistan wasting huge sums of money and producing junks for the armed forces which they refuse to induct.
 
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Everybody in the world need training , People who say no to training are fools.
 
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no need when you get from Israel paint / name them Rustom 3

DRDO follows different model, they will get some parts, propose their unique design try to integrate both of them,

The model as usual will get some glitches ..... then they will run for help ...... since the design is unique outside help will also become difficult to fix those glitches ....... so delay in the procurement ..... mean while the foreign weapons company agents in India will take our armed forces to a tour of the new shiney products and also explain kickbacks to babus .... tired of the DRDO unfinished and underpar product and impressed by the foreign products .... Armed forces favor foreign products ........GOI will buy the foreign product hoping that some technical help will arrive from the same foreign firm in fixing the domestic project ..... end result DRDO product will be still in developmental stage but foreign product procurement will be kept on hold because of scams.

Until now this is the saga and they sabotaged many defense projects. Starting from DRDO, Babus and Armed forces every one is at a fault.

Chinese model .... get the technology, buy the technology, steal the technology and build the copy of it in China if some glitch ... it will be fixed easily.

May be India needs another way !!

R&D requires massive infrastructure !!
 
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DRDO follows different model, they will get some parts, propose their unique design try to integrate both of them,

The model as usual will get some glitches ..... then they will run for help ...... since the design is unique outside help will also become difficult to fix those glitches ....... so delay in the procurement ..... mean while the foreign weapons company agents in India will take our armed forces to a tour of the new shiney products and also explain kickbacks to babus .... tired of the DRDO unfinished and underpar product and impressed by the foreign products .... Armed forces favor foreign products ........GOI will buy the foreign product hoping that some technical help will arrive from the same foreign firm in fixing the domestic project ..... end result DRDO product will be still in developmental stage but foreign product procurement will be kept on hold because of scams.

Until now this is the saga and they sabotaged many defense projects and starting from DRDO, Babus and Armed forces every one is at a fault.

Chinese model .... get the technology, buy the technology, steal the technology and build the copy of it in China if some glitch ... it will be fixed easily.

May be India needs another way !!

R&D requires massive infrastructure !!

DRDO throw away massive amount of your nation's money in name of R&D, then buys SKD and CKDs and paints them in your tricolour with fancy Indian deity names.
 
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DRDO throw away massive amount of your nation's money in name of R&D, then buys SKD and CKDs and paints them in your tricolour with fancy Indian deity names.

Some times they get it right, but most of the times they failed.
 
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DRDO follows different model, they will get some parts, propose their unique design try to integrate both of them,

The model as usual will get some glitches ..... then they will run for help ...... since the design is unique outside help will also become difficult to fix those glitches ....... so delay in the procurement ..... mean while the foreign weapons company agents in India will take our armed forces to a tour of the new shiney products and also explain kickbacks to babus .... tired of the DRDO unfinished and underpar product and impressed by the foreign products .... Armed forces favor foreign products ........GOI will buy the foreign product hoping that some technical help will arrive from the same foreign firm in fixing the domestic project ..... end result DRDO product will be still in developmental stage but foreign product procurement will be kept on hold because of scams.

Until now this is the saga and they sabotaged many defense projects and starting from DRDO, Babus and Armed forces every one is at a fault.

Chinese model .... get the technology, buy the technology, steal the technology and build the copy of it in China if some glitch ... it will be fixed easily.

May be India needs another way !!

R&D requires massive infrastructure !!
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DRDO follows different model, they will get some parts, propose their unique design try to integrate both of them,

The model as usual will get some glitches ..... then they will run for help ...... since the design is unique outside help will also become difficult to fix those glitches ....... so delay in the procurement ..... mean while the foreign weapons company agents in India will take our armed forces to a tour of the new shiney products and also explain kickbacks to babus .... tired of the DRDO unfinished and underpar product and impressed by the foreign products .... Armed forces favor foreign products ........GOI will buy the foreign product hoping that some technical help will arrive from the same foreign firm in fixing the domestic project ..... end result DRDO product will be still in developmental stage but foreign product procurement will be kept on hold because of scams.

Until now this is the saga and they sabotaged many defense projects and starting from DRDO, Babus and Armed forces every one is at a fault.

Chinese model .... get the technology, buy the technology, steal the technology and build the copy of it in China if some glitch ... it will be fixed easily.

May be India needs another way !!

R&D requires massive infrastructure !!
Nice storyline for next bollywood movie.

More like :sleep:
 
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A lethal missile attack this week on Islamist militants by Pakistani forces was carried out with an armed drone likely to have been supported, designed or supplied by China, according to defence analysts.

The Pakistan army on Monday claimed it successfully used the “Burraq” unmanned aerial vehicle for an attack on a terrorist compound in the north Waziristan region along the Afghan border, in which three Taliban militants were killed.
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Announced via Twitter by Major General Asim Bajwa, chief spokesman of Pakistan’s armed forces, it was the first known use of an armed Pakistani drone. “For now, the authorities believe their ability to target hardcore militants has improved with this drone capability,” said one western diplomat.

The attack appeared to mark a significant milestone for Pakistan, which has now joined the small club of countries with armed drones. In the past, Islamabad repeatedly sought to buy them from the US but Washington, reluctant to export sensitive technology, refused.

However, China — an ally of nuclear-armed Pakistan and its most important conventional weapons supplier — appears to have stepped up its support.

Neil Gibson, a weapons analyst with IHS Jane’s, said that despite the claims of Pakistani manufacture, “close analysis of imagery released by Pakistan suggests at least a heavy debt to Chinese systems”. The Burraq, he added, “strongly resembles” China’s CH-3 UAV.

Pieter Wezeman, a senior researcher at the Stockholm International Peace Research Institute (Sipri), said China must have helped Pakistan if it did indeed produce a UAV that goes beyond basic reconnaissance.

“Developing a drone with armed capability is much more difficult than just a reconnaissance one because the reconnaissance one can be built with very basic technology, but integrating weapons is a different level,” he said. “Either it is a Chinese UAV or based on Chinese technology.”

Drone attacks by governments, whether on foreign targets or their own citizens, have become increasingly controversial, with the British government in the spotlight for killing two British jihadis in Syria this month.

Pakistan has been the site of numerous attacks by US drones on militant targets. Some of the raids caused civilian deaths and the US drone killings — although carried out with the knowledge of the Pakistani authorities — have been routinely condemned in public by the Pakistan government.

A 2013 report by Amnesty International analysed 45 drone strikes in North Waziristan and alleged that the US had carried out unlawful killings, some of which could amount to war crimes.

China’s suspected link with Pakistan’s drone programme underlines Beijing’s status as the main weapons supplier to the country.

Sipri said this year that just over half of Pakistan’s weapon imports from 2010 to 2014 came from China, and 30 per cent from the US. Pakistan emerged as China’s largest arms customer, accounting for 41 per cent of Beijing’s exports during the same period.


http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/6df963c4-576e-11e5-a28b-50226830d644.html#axzz3n5PEXhOB

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