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China & ASEAN can solve disputes: China to USA

China and the Association of Southeast Asian Nations (ASEAN) have the ability and wisdom to settle the South China Sea disputes, Foreign Minister Yang Jiechi told US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton on Friday.

Yang, speaking on the sidelines of the ASEAN Regional Forum to be held on Saturday on the Indonesian island of Bali, said the Chinese side is committed to maintaining freedom of navigation and security in the area.

Clinton said the United States understands that the South China Sea issue is complex and the US side takes no position on the issue.

She added that Washington supports measures conducive to the settlement of the disputes, and has no intention of getting involved or making it a problem in China-US relations.

But Clinton was set to make a speech on Saturday to her Asian counterparts in which she would emphasize that the US had a "strategic stake" in the South China Sea.

A US official traveling with Clinton said she would make a "very detailed statement" at the ASEAN forum about the importance of the South China Sea to US and global commerce.

China and ASEAN countries recently reached agreement on the guidelines of implementing the Declaration on the Conduct of Parties in the South China Sea, which lays a foundation for cooperation in the area and demonstrates that China and ASEAN countries can solve the disputes on their own, Yang said.

Yang and his ASEAN counterparts approved the guidelines on Thursday.

The US recently conducted joint naval drills with the Philippines and Vietnam in the South China Sea, which China called "inappropriate".

The Philippines, Malaysia, Brunei and Vietnam - all ASEAN members - have competing claims of sovereignty over some islands in the South China Sea, which have historically been Chinese territory.

Washington also irritated Beijing by declaring it has a national interest at stake in ensuring freedom of navigation and trade.

"The White House would never like to see China's dominance in the area, but it will not allow either the Philippines or Vietnam to misunderstand its intentions and get involved in any military actions," Niu Xinchun, a scholar on US studies at the China Institutes of Contemporary International Relations, told China Daily.

"So the declaration of conduct is in the interests of both China and the US," Niu said.

Washington's support of some countries does not mean the US supports them provoking China or even starting a war with China, but is aimed at the balance of power in the region, said Niu.

"Since last year, Washington's high-profile engagement has actually affected Sino-US relations. But it is not in the interest of both countries to lock bilateral ties in a standstill. So we can see the Americans now have cooler heads to deal with the South China Sea issue," Yuan Peng, Niu's colleague, told China Daily.

In their talks, Yang also focused on Sino-US cooperation on a range of issues including efforts to bring the Democratic People's Republic of Korea (DPRK) back into the Six-Party Talks on its nuclear program.

The disarmament talks have been stalled since 2008, when the DPRK walked out to protest international criticism of a prohibited long-range rocket launch.

They also reached consensus on cooperation in such areas as food security, urban search and rescue, and disaster relief.

Clinton reiterated that the United States adheres to a one-China policy and respects China's sovereignty and territorial integrity.

Clinton will fly on Sunday from Bali to Hong Kong and stop by the southern Chinese city of Shenzhen on Monday for a meeting with State Councilor Dai Bingguo.

She is due to give a speech in Hong Kong on Monday that will emphasize the US view of economic ties with China.

China and ASEAN can solve disputes|Politics|chinadaily.com.cn
 
That China would say such a thing to USA was already known, all along.

What's important is what ASEAN says to USA.


Without US angle, ASEAN will be talking to China with gun held on it's head.


China should come for talks ..... but with an open mind.

Not with pre-determined outcome, printed on paper, which every one else should sign quietly.


There is no point in ASEAN being forced to sign an "unequal" treaty with China.
It won't last .... and will cause all the more trouble and ill-will in the entire region.


If China wants keep the region healthy, it should desist from making any forward military moves.
Should commit that there will never be a military solution, in any scenario.
(Unlike the stand vis-a-vis Taiwan, where it says it will militarily take it, at an opportune moment).


Unfortunately, things do remain pessimistic, currently.
Phillipines has even said it didn't like the loose language in the China and ASEAN conduct guidelines, but did so grudgingly be with ASEAN.
The guidelines are too loose and general in nature.
 
"The White House would never like to see China's dominance in the area, but it will not allow either the Philippines or Vietnam to misunderstand its intentions and get involved in any military actions," Niu Xinchun, a scholar on US studies at the China Institutes of Contemporary International Relations, told China Daily.
We never say we need US's soldier to protect VietNam, no need to speak again and again like that.Why CHinese still think we need US soldiers ???
 
We never say we need US's soldier to protect VietNam, no need to speak again and again like that.Why CHinese still think we need US soldiers ???

Then why do you call for help in the first place?
 
Then why do you call for help in the first place?

Help means support weapon for us, help us in training and improving infrastruture , of course you will get many benifit in VN also , US don't have to help with US soldiers's blood.
 
Help means support weapon for us, help us in training and improving infrastruture , of course you will get many benifit in VN also , US don't have to help with US soldiers's blood.

US themselves are on the verge of bankruptcy, they don't have any time to think about your people.
 
US themselves are on the verge of bankruptcy, they don't have any time to think about your people.

All forms of foreign aid constitutes 0.3% of American GDP. They are broke on entitlements. Helping Vietnam is a drop in the buck.
 
All forms of foreign aid constitutes 0.3% of American GDP. They are broke on entitlements. Helping Vietnam is a drop in the buck.

Nice argument bro. :lol:
No influential American politician will give a darn about Vietnam until a debt ceiling deal is reached first then they'll have many other unfinished priorities as well to take care of.
 
Nice argument bro. :lol:
No influential American politician will give a darn about Vietnam until a debt ceiling deal is reached first then they'll have many other unfinished priorities as well to take care of.

Debt ceiling has already been reached. Thats what Obama is working on right this moment.
 
All forms of foreign aid constitutes 0.3% of American GDP. They are broke on entitlements. Helping Vietnam is a drop in the buck.

Now you better to listen the true voice of the mainstream conservative Americans.

They don't even wanna help a neighboring country, i don't know why they should help a irrelevant country that the only purpose is to cause some trouble to China.

 
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Would China be willing to gamble that the US would not make a move in Asia in this dispute? For all the Chinese bluster here about China's military might and calling out US economic troubles, the answer is 'No'. China is too scared to make such a gamble. But of course, China can always hire Baghdad Bob.
 
Would China be willing to gamble that the US would not make a move in Asia in this dispute? For all the Chinese bluster here about China's military might and calling out US economic troubles, the answer is 'No'. China is too scared to make such a gamble. But of course, China can always hire Baghdad Bob.

Who will US intervene for though? It certainly won't be for Vietnam when it has more loyal allies in the region like the Phillipines.

China might count on wining without US intervention but the other countries expect to with US intervention. For all the South Asians blustering here the US has shown little interest in war.
 
Who will US intervene for though? It certainly won't be for Vietnam when it has more loyal allies in the region like the Phillipines.

China might count on wining without US intervention but the other countries expect to with US intervention. For all the South Asians blustering here the US has shown little interest in war.
This dispute showed, not just for the 'inferior' Asians but the world, that China is looking at territorial theft and none can steal unless he has motives that are detrimental to others but himself. China can gamble that the 'inferior' Asians will not unite and the US will not get involved. Similar to how Saddam Hussein gambled.
 
This dispute showed, not just for the 'inferior' Asians but the world, that China is looking at territorial theft and none can steal unless he has motives that are detrimental to others but himself. China can gamble that the 'inferior' Asians will not unite and the US will not get involved. Similar to how Saddam Hussein gambled.

And the inferior as you say Asians here are gambling that US will intervene when it gets into a shooting war with China.
 
That China would say such a thing to USA was already known, all along.

What's important is what ASEAN says to USA.


Without US angle, ASEAN will be talking to China with gun held on it's head.


China should come for talks ..... but with an open mind.

Not with pre-determined outcome, printed on paper, which every one else should sign quietly.


There is no point in ASEAN being forced to sign an "unequal" treaty with China.
It won't last .... and will cause all the more trouble and ill-will in the entire region.


If China wants keep the region healthy, it should desist from making any forward military moves.
Should commit that there will never be a military solution, in any scenario.
(Unlike the stand vis-a-vis Taiwan, where it says it will militarily take it, at an opportune moment).


Unfortunately, things do remain pessimistic, currently.
Phillipines has even said it didn't like the loose language in the China and ASEAN conduct guidelines, but did so grudgingly be with ASEAN.
The guidelines are too loose and general in nature.

We dont give up military solution for taiwan problem but we are going to give up this method on South China Sea Problem? If that happens, nobody will support CCP.
 
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