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China And Pakistan Beware -- This Week, India And US Sign Major War Pact

For Prime Minister Modi, it is a major step for India away from its Cold War alliance with Russia, toward a new alliance with the U.S. (and Japan and Australia) to protect the Indian Ocean and the seas off Southeast Asia, especially from China. India remains on hostile terms with China from border disputes dating back to a war in the 1960s. And, the gigantic engines of their economies are, for the most part, rivals.

So that means Pakistan-Turkey-China-Russia-Iran alliance is on now? :eek:
 
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Is it me or any one else feels, nowadays, if India buys simple screwdriver. people here assume its against CPEC, I can gauge CPEC importance to country but isn't it getting to point of obsession


So that means Pakistan-Turkey-China-Russia-Iran alliance is on now?


So your alliance consists of Russia and Iran , aren't you forgetting ME , SAARC countries. do you really think for just simple logistic agreement these countries will form alliance against India.
 
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Is it me or any one else feels, nowadays, if India buys simple screwdriver. people here assume its against CPEC, I can gauge CPEC importance to country but isn't it getting to point of obsession



seems like pakistan has sacrificed their conscience for this CPEC deal
 
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Is it me or any one else feels, nowadays, if India buys simple screwdriver. people here assume its against CPEC, I can gauge CPEC importance to country but isn't it getting to point of obsession





So your alliance consists of Russia and Iran , aren't you forgetting ME , SAARC countries. do you really think for just simple logistic agreement these countries will form alliance against India.

Now you see what that article sounds like. Just wanted to show you the mirror. My statement was bait. :D
 
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US-India defence pact to impact Pakistan, China
Anwar Iqbal — Updated 32 minutes ago


WASHINGTON: The United States and India on Monday signed a defence agreement that will have a direct impact on both Pakistan and China.

The Logistics Exchange Memorandum of Agreement (LEMOA) allows the two allies to use each other’s military facilities for checking China’s growing influence in Asia and in the fight against terrorists.

Indian Defence Minister Manohar Parrikar — in the US on a four-day visit, his second in eight months — will also carry forward talks on acquiring jet engine technology and unmanned aerial vehicles (UAVs). He met US Defence Secretary Ash Carter on Monday.

The text for the logistics cooperation agreement was finalised during a visit of Prime Minister Narendra Modi to Washington in June.

Read: India, US ‘agree in principle’ to share military logistics

The US and India are also finalising two foundational agreements — the Communications Interoperability and Security Memorandum of Agreement (CISMOA) and Basic Exchange and Cooperation Agreement for Geo-spatial Cooperation (BECA).

The logistics agreement provides for each country to use the other for supplies, spare parts, services and refuelling. Effectively, US armed forces can operate out of Indian bases, and India can use US bases across the globe.

“China and Pakistan beware — this week, India and US sign major war pact,” warned the Forbes magazine in an article.

The US media noted that the agreement was a key part of the Obama administration’s strategy to contain China, which has been spreading its influence across Asia.

The media reported that the US Navy planned to deploy 60 per cent of its surface ships in the Indo-Pacific in the near future.

The media reports pointed out that unlike Afghanistan and Iraq, where the US had to build everything from scratch, India already had the military facilities the United States could use when needed.

The Indian media, however, warned that such agreements could irk Russia, a long-time Indian ally. But Indian media reports also noted that Prime Minister Modi did not appear much concerned about Russia’s possible reaction to his closeness to the US. The Modi administration had committed itself to building a new alliance with the US and its allies, such as Japan and Australia, the reports added.

The US media noted that India remained on hostile terms with China and this hostility had moved from border disputes to economic and strategic competition for influence.

They noted that the US would like to use the LEMOA to counter China’s growing military might — particularly airbases — in the South China Sea. But the agreement would allow India and the US also to use each other’s facilities against their common enemy, religious terrorism.

The reports noted that a recent bombing by the militant Islamic State group in Bangladesh rang alarm bells in Washington where defence experts were already worried about its efforts to increase its influence in Pakistan and Afghanistan.

“Having LEMOA makes it much simpler for American naval and air forces to fight there. The US does not have actual bases in India. But, it has the next best thing — a simple way to use India’s bases,” Forbes noted.

The magazine described the LEMOA as “the key way-station on agreements still to come of military technology sharing of tremendous importance for India”.

The future agreements, like the CISMOA and BECA, would help India “stand up to the emerging superpower of China”, the report added.

But experts warned that India’s ability to build jet engines or acquire UAV technology from the US would further weaken Pakistan’s conventional defence capability as well.

Examine: Pakistan concerned over growing Indo-US ties: Sartaj Aziz

The United Stat

es already recognises India as a Major Defence Partner, helped it join the Missile Technology Control Regime and is willing to provide licences for top US defence technology.

The Forbes article noted that arms India acquired from the US would help it “in many friction points”, such as in the fight against terrorist groups like Jaish-e-Mohammed.

It pointed out that the group was considered an enemy both by the US and India and its chief Masood Azhar was on India’s hit list.

Earlier this year, India tried to persuade the United Nations to declare Mr Azhar a global terrorist but China blocked the move.

“So while the South China Sea may seem far off from India, China is breathing down India’s neck, up close and personal,” Forbes commented.

Published in Dawn, August 30th, 2016



http://www.dawn.com/news/1280873/us-india-defence-pact-to-impact-pakistan-china

With the backing of the US india is set to disrupt CPEC. Now the ball is in the Chinese court. Pakistan cannot do anything against this on her own as the US is there to intervene on behalf of the indians. India will now resort to terrorism in Pakistan with impunity.

@Sinopakfriend @SinoSoldier @china zhoushan @Chinese Bamboo @Chinese-Dragon @ChineseTiger1986
 
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War is nothing but "logistics arrangement", you haven't grown up yet!

This arrangement becomes Null in case of US war with any country. And Vice versa. Grow up guys.

Stationing US troops in India or US using Indian bases in its war will result in political suicide of the ruling party into oblivion.
 
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This arrangement becomes Null in case of US war with any country. And Vice versa. Grow up guys.

Stationing US troops in India or US using Indian bases in its war will result in political suicide of the ruling party into oblivion.

We're pretty sure Modi doesn't agree with you on this.
 
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This article gives the vibe of fear-mongering, to incite sentiments.

Contrary to the popular belief, US always had a soft-corner for India and perceived it is a market worth tapping at some point in the future. Americans are known to think years ahead than others.

At present, India is the 6th largest economy in the world, a huge market and a geopolitical rival of China; to the Americans, India is a great alternative to China.

Problem (for the Americans) is that China turned out to be a beast that cannot be tamed and is already showing its teeth in the matters of its foreign policy; US and China are at loggerheads in the matters of SCS and North Korea. Since China is an emerging world power, a new COLD WAR is expected as an outcome. Therefore, US is searching for alternatives to China from both economic and China-containment perspective; India and Vietnam are sending positive signals to the US in this regard. South Korea and Japan are already in American camp. Taiwan and Philippines are in the middle.

As far as Pakistan is concerned, US desires good relations with Pakistan in the long-term (believe this or not). A stable Pakistan is good for the entire Asia. US would not perceive CPEC as a threat to its interests in the region unless China chooses to militarize it. I hope that Pakistan would keep CPEC strictly economic. Pakistan should be on good terms with both US and China (no ifs and buts here).
 
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As far as Pakistan is concerned, US desires good relations with Pakistan in the long-term (believe this or not). A stable Pakistan is good for the entire Asia. US would not perceive CPEC as a threat to its interests in the region unless China chooses to militarize it. I hope that Pakistan would keep CPEC strictly economic. Pakistan should be on good terms with both US and China (no ifs and buts here).


I am sorry but the underline statements are frankly quite delusional.

There is lot of baggage between the two nations since 9/11 which might take a generation or so to get over with. So not happening anytime soon. Just marriage of convenience at very best and from Pakistan point of view, that should how it be. With regards to CPEC, its primarily a economic venture but the recent American-Indian military pact, there is no doubt it will accomodate some some sort of military aspect as well. Pakistan and China cannot stay idle when America and India are planing to deploy substantial sea assets in Indian ocean to effectively chock the ingress/egress of Gawadar/CPEC.

Even the economic aspect of CPEC would not be swallowed by America specially when the ME oil start flowing towards Chinese market instead of American.

Pakistan and China needs to act and act fast and uproot all the challenges that are coming in the way of their mutual interests. India is playing a role of a regional nuisance and needs to be effectively neutralized. And I am pretty sure Pakistani and Chinese deep states know how to achieve this. They need to start exchanging their notes on regular basis.
 
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For Prime Minister Modi, it is a major step for India away from its Cold War alliance with Russia, toward a new alliance with the U.S. (and Japan and Australia) to protect the Indian Ocean and the seas off Southeast Asia, especially from China. India remains on hostile terms with China from border disputes dating back to a war in the 1960s. And, the gigantic engines of their economies are, for the most part, rivals.

So that means Pakistan-Turkey-China-Russia-Iran alliance is on now? :eek:

That is called SCO.
 
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This article gives the vibe of fear-mongering, to incite sentiments.

Contrary to the popular belief, US always had a soft-corner for India and perceived it is a market worth tapping at some point in the future. Americans are known to think years ahead than others.

At present, India is the 6th largest economy in the world, a huge market and a geopolitical rival of China; to the Americans, India is a great alternative to China.

Problem (for the Americans) is that China turned out to be a beast that cannot be tamed and is already showing its teeth in the matters of its foreign policy; US and China are at loggerheads in the matters of SCS and North Korea. Since China is an emerging world power, a new COLD WAR is expected as an outcome. Therefore, US is searching for alternatives to China from both economic and China-containment perspective; India and Vietnam are sending positive signals to the US in this regard. South Korea and Japan are already in American camp. Taiwan and Philippines are in the middle.

As far as Pakistan is concerned, US desires good relations with Pakistan in the long-term (believe this or not). A stable Pakistan is good for the entire Asia. US would not perceive CPEC as a threat to its interests in the region unless China chooses to militarize it. I hope that Pakistan would keep CPEC strictly economic. Pakistan should be on good terms with both US and China (no ifs and buts here).

CPEC could be implemented with Karachi instead of Gwadar. that would have made the project economic

Pakistan and China cannot stay idle when America and India are planing to deploy substantial sea assets in Indian ocean to effectively chock the ingress/egress of Gawadar/CPEC.

Even the economic aspect of CPEC would not be swallowed by America specially when the ME oil start flowing towards Chinese market instead of American.

China's ability to challenge American navy in the seas is zero. India joining America seals the deal.

ME oil flows to the highest bidder.
 
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This article gives the vibe of fear-mongering, to incite sentiments.

Contrary to the popular belief, US always had a soft-corner for India and perceived it is a market worth tapping at some point in the future. Americans are known to think years ahead than others.

At present, India is the 6th largest economy in the world, a huge market and a geopolitical rival of China; to the Americans, India is a great alternative to China.

Problem (for the Americans) is that China turned out to be a beast that cannot be tamed and is already showing its teeth in the matters of its foreign policy; US and China are at loggerheads in the matters of SCS and North Korea. Since China is an emerging world power, a new COLD WAR is expected as an outcome. Therefore, US is searching for alternatives to China from both economic and China-containment perspective; India and Vietnam are sending positive signals to the US in this regard. South Korea and Japan are already in American camp. Taiwan and Philippines are in the middle.

As far as Pakistan is concerned, US desires good relations with Pakistan in the long-term (believe this or not). A stable Pakistan is good for the entire Asia. US would not perceive CPEC as a threat to its interests in the region unless China chooses to militarize it. I hope that Pakistan would keep CPEC strictly economic. Pakistan should be on good terms with both US and China (no ifs and buts here).

Yes yes, we get it, according to you China is the trouble maker and the US is the peacemaker. As for fear-mongering, your so-called peacemakers claimed that Saddam could launch a nuclear attack against the west in ten minutes, that is the true example of fear-mongering! We can see that you have too much to lose if the US goes down.

@Sinopakfriend @Chinese-Dragon @ChineseTiger1986
 
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China's ability to challenge American navy in the seas is zero. India joining America seals the deal.

ME oil flows to the highest bidder.


Lets assume, Chinese Navy is non existent. All its needed to secure the shipping lines in Arabian sea (oil imports) and towards red sea, is to deploy long rang fighters, the likes of SU35s and Chinese equivalents using Pakistani bases, job done and bob is your uncle.

Oil flow to where the strategic interests lies of these Sheikh kingdoms. Arabs are pissed off with yanks and Saudi de facto ruler just left Islamabad this morning. So yeah, watch the space.
 
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