China And Pakistan Beware -- This Week, India And US Sign Major War Pact

[TheNoob]

I feel sorry for russia.

i don't think the question of sovereignty arises when the agreement is only on logistics, Its not like USA is setting up a military base in India.

also pakistanis should be the last to comment on national sovereignty when they've sold out their country to China.

How is it sold?

Please enlighten me.

 

[waz]

LOL, and the great irony is that many Indian members have constantly attacked Pakistan for selling out to America.

Yet it is India who is running to sell their sovereignty to America as we speak.

The only problem is what are they going to do with all their Russian equipment?

T-50 with F-35 parts you think?

 

[My-Analogous]

Charles Tiefer , CONTRIBUTOR
I cover government contracting, the Pentagon and Congress.

President Barack Obama meets with Prime Minister Narendra Modi of India in June. (Photo by Dennis Brack-Pool/Getty Images)


Around August 30, in Washington, India and the U.S. will sign a major war pact that makes them logistical allies against, among others, the superpower China currently making a bold power grab in the South China Sea.

Specifically, Indian Defense Mister Manohar Parrikar will sign the deal during a two-day visit in Washington. The deal is the Logistics Exchange Memorandum of Agreement (LEMOA), a foundational agreement for India and the U.S.. In this instance, the agreement provides for each to use the other globally for supplies, spare parts, services and refueling. Effectively, U.S. armed forces can operate out of Indian bases, and vice versa, on a simple basis.

For the U.S., this is part of the “pivot” to Asia intended by President Obama to meet a rising China. The U.S. Navy plans to deploy 60 percent of its surface ships in the Indo-Pacific in the near future. Instead of having to build facilities virtually from the ground up, as in Afghanistan and Iraq, the U.S. has the benefit of simple arrangements for the tremendous Indian facilities.


For Prime Minister Modi, it is a major step for India away from its Cold War alliance with Russia, toward a new alliance with the U.S. (and Japan and Australia) to protect the Indian Ocean and the seas off Southeast Asia, especially from China. India remains on hostile terms with China from border disputes dating back to a war in the 1960s. And, the gigantic engines of their economies are, for the most part, rivals.

For both the U.S. and India, LEMOA responds to the powerful challenge of Xi Jinping’s artificial islands – with air bases — in the South China Sea. It may also matter against the common enemy of the U.S. and India in radical jihadists.


For example, ISIS recently carried out a terror bombing in Bangladesh. What if ISIS got a substantial ground effort going, not as much as their “caliphate” in Syria and Iraq, but on the substantial scale of their effort in Egyptian Sinai and Libya? Having LEMOA makes it much simpler for American naval and air forces to fight there. The U.S. does not have actual bases in India. But, it has the next best thing – a simple way to use India’s bases.

LEMOA is the key way-station on agreements still to come of military technology sharing of tremendous importance for India, again, primarily to help it stand up to the emerging superpower of China. One upcoming deal is the Communications and Information Security Memorandum Agreement (CISMOA). Another, the Basic Exchange and Cooperation Agreement for Geospatial Intelligence (BECA).

With prior pacts, thru LEMOA, ultimately to CISMOA and BECA, India increasingly can either buy (and use), from the U.S or others, or make itself, top-of-the-line technology for its air force and navy to stand up to China’s, particularly in the Indian Ocean. Pakistan, it must not be forgotten, is making itself a base for Beijing’s forces to operate in its region. Modi has made India a tremendous buyer of advanced weaponry. The U.S. is by far the world’s largest seller of weapons.

There are prior deals and policies here. The U.S. recognized India as a Major Defense Partner. It brought India into the Missile Technology Control Regime. Among other aspects, the various deals expedite India obtaining the keys to the kingdom, namely, licenses for top U.S. defense technology. In other words, U.S. contractors are getting, through LEMOA as through prior deals, a much better launching pad from which to sell many billions of dollars of top-of-the-line armament to India. Conversely, India often requires a degree of coproduction domestically, so LEMOA and other deals will help India grow as a gigantic weapons dealer itself, selling to the rest of the world.

All these arms matter in many friction points. Take the nasty Islamist terrorist organization, Jaish-e-Mohammed (JEM). Pakistan’s powerful and dangerous intelligence arm, ISI, uses JEM against India, but it is also among a group of organizations backed by ISI that the U.S. considers a U.S. enemy, too. JEM’s chief is Masood Azhar. India tried unsuccessfully to tag Azhar at the United Nations as a terrorist. Who blocked it? China. So while the South China Sea may seem far off from India, China is breathing down India’s neck, up close and personal

The U.S. did not make the bellicose move in the South China Sea. Xi Jinping did. There are many downsides to an arms races. But if we do not move, we lose. We have little choice but to play catchup.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/charles...ia-and-us-sign-major-war-pact/2/#39a5f9084661

Good and now can sign similar deal with Cuba, Argentina and Brazil. Thank you USA to provide this chance to China

Seriously you believe its for Pakistan too....bro if 4th biggest army cannot do the job trust me nothing will...its for china which is bigger than us and stronger than us at this time.we need friends to work together.

So you guys think you can handle Pakistan. Come and try now and its a limited time offer

 

[Jlaw]

Charles Tiefer , CONTRIBUTOR
I cover government contracting, the Pentagon and Congress.

President Barack Obama meets with Prime Minister Narendra Modi of India in June. (Photo by Dennis Brack-Pool/Getty Images)


Around August 30, in Washington, India and the U.S. will sign a major war pact that makes them logistical allies against, among others, the superpower China currently making a bold power grab in the South China Sea.

Specifically, Indian Defense Mister Manohar Parrikar will sign the deal during a two-day visit in Washington. The deal is the Logistics Exchange Memorandum of Agreement (LEMOA), a foundational agreement for India and the U.S.. In this instance, the agreement provides for each to use the other globally for supplies, spare parts, services and refueling. Effectively, U.S. armed forces can operate out of Indian bases, and vice versa, on a simple basis.

For the U.S., this is part of the “pivot” to Asia intended by President Obama to meet a rising China. The U.S. Navy plans to deploy 60 percent of its surface ships in the Indo-Pacific in the near future. Instead of having to build facilities virtually from the ground up, as in Afghanistan and Iraq, the U.S. has the benefit of simple arrangements for the tremendous Indian facilities.


For Prime Minister Modi, it is a major step for India away from its Cold War alliance with Russia, toward a new alliance with the U.S. (and Japan and Australia) to protect the Indian Ocean and the seas off Southeast Asia, especially from China. India remains on hostile terms with China from border disputes dating back to a war in the 1960s. And, the gigantic engines of their economies are, for the most part, rivals.

For both the U.S. and India, LEMOA responds to the powerful challenge of Xi Jinping’s artificial islands – with air bases — in the South China Sea. It may also matter against the common enemy of the U.S. and India in radical jihadists.


For example, ISIS recently carried out a terror bombing in Bangladesh. What if ISIS got a substantial ground effort going, not as much as their “caliphate” in Syria and Iraq, but on the substantial scale of their effort in Egyptian Sinai and Libya? Having LEMOA makes it much simpler for American naval and air forces to fight there. The U.S. does not have actual bases in India. But, it has the next best thing – a simple way to use India’s bases.

LEMOA is the key way-station on agreements still to come of military technology sharing of tremendous importance for India, again, primarily to help it stand up to the emerging superpower of China. One upcoming deal is the Communications and Information Security Memorandum Agreement (CISMOA). Another, the Basic Exchange and Cooperation Agreement for Geospatial Intelligence (BECA).

With prior pacts, thru LEMOA, ultimately to CISMOA and BECA, India increasingly can either buy (and use), from the U.S or others, or make itself, top-of-the-line technology for its air force and navy to stand up to China’s, particularly in the Indian Ocean. Pakistan, it must not be forgotten, is making itself a base for Beijing’s forces to operate in its region. Modi has made India a tremendous buyer of advanced weaponry. The U.S. is by far the world’s largest seller of weapons.

There are prior deals and policies here. The U.S. recognized India as a Major Defense Partner. It brought India into the Missile Technology Control Regime. Among other aspects, the various deals expedite India obtaining the keys to the kingdom, namely, licenses for top U.S. defense technology. In other words, U.S. contractors are getting, through LEMOA as through prior deals, a much better launching pad from which to sell many billions of dollars of top-of-the-line armament to India. Conversely, India often requires a degree of coproduction domestically, so LEMOA and other deals will help India grow as a gigantic weapons dealer itself, selling to the rest of the world.

All these arms matter in many friction points. Take the nasty Islamist terrorist organization, Jaish-e-Mohammed (JEM). Pakistan’s powerful and dangerous intelligence arm, ISI, uses JEM against India, but it is also among a group of organizations backed by ISI that the U.S. considers a U.S. enemy, too. JEM’s chief is Masood Azhar. India tried unsuccessfully to tag Azhar at the United Nations as a terrorist. Who blocked it? China. So while the South China Sea may seem far off from India, China is breathing down India’s neck, up close and personal

The U.S. did not make the bellicose move in the South China Sea. Xi Jinping did. There are many downsides to an arms races. But if we do not move, we lose. We have little choice but to play catchup.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/charles...ia-and-us-sign-major-war-pact/2/#39a5f9084661

Not news to Chinese. We know eventually India will have to allow US to set up/ use currently military bases there. By doing so US will keep backing India for NSG.

LOL, and the great irony is that many Indian members have constantly attacked Pakistan for selling out to America.

Yet it is India who is running to sell their sovereignty to America as we speak.

The only problem is what are they going to do with all their Russian equipment?

that is the $100 billion dollar question.



You mentioned this a few months back. Indians didn't believe you. Now it's happening. Of course first it starts with allowing each others troops to operate in each others country. This you know means only US troop can operate in Indian soil, not vice versa. For this, India get full support for NSG admissiion.

 

[Echo_419]

LOL, and the great irony is that many Indian members have constantly attacked Pakistan for selling out to America.

Yet it is India who is running to sell their sovereignty to America as we speak.

The only problem is what are they going to do with all their Russian equipment?

This is a simple logistics agreement which will gives both the countries access to each other

Not news to Chinese. We know eventually India will have to allow US to set up/ use currently military bases there. By doing so US will keep backing India for NSG.



that is the $100 billion dollar question.



You mentioned this a few months back. Indians didn't believe you. Now it's happening. Of course first it starts with allowing each others troops to operate in each others country. This you know means only US troop can operate in Indian soil, not vice versa. For this, India get full support for NSG admissiion.

False statement, learn to read

 

[Mo12]

I, for one, really want India to sign such a pact with US. That'll be the last nail in it's coffin and take India towards it's destiny in fifth gear.

Yes it will be good to use USA bases that surrounds Pakistan

 

[Steve781]

A CIA/MI6/MOSSAD/RAW intelligence agreement would be amazing.

 

[SrNair]

War pact, who the hell writes such trash? The worst thing is the idiot is literally designating an ally of the US, Pakistan, as an enemy. Has anyone told the state department?

Well, this seems at odds with Indian policy over the years.

Effectively, U.S. armed forces can operate out of Indian bases, and vice versa, on a simple basis.

Only at peace time .During wartime the pact will nullify .

 

[Mo12]

T-50 with F-35 parts you think?

Or T-50, F-35 and Teja flying side by side. hehe

 

[SrNair]

This is US counter to cpec

IF US want CPEC death then it would happen and for US it is just easy .All they need to do is to use their clout for Balochistan .

But FYI ,CPEC is not even a matter here .

 

[Great Janjua]

IF US want CPEC death then it would happen and for US it is just easy .All they need to do is to use their clout for Balochistan .

But FYI ,CPEC is not even a matter here .

The US can't even touch CPEC all they do is talk big mate

 

[SrNair]

The US can't even touch CPEC all they do is talk big mate

US wont touch it because they dont have to .If they want they will interfere and rest would be history.

 

[Super Falcon]

Problem for USA is it can't handle Red dragon single handedly so it needs security dogs like india to watch its butt be aware chine single handedly not only destroy entire USA but it's supporters from South China and Arabian Sea

 

[jermankill]

LOL, and the great irony is that many Indian members have constantly attacked Pakistan for selling out to America.

Yet it is India who is running to sell their sovereignty to America as we speak.

The only problem is what are they going to do with all their Russian equipment?

what about scrape yard ?

 

[wiseone2]

what about scrape yard ?

Allowing US access to Indian military bases eliminates the need for India to spend on its defense. It keeps China and Pakistan guessing. Bottom line neither China nor Pakistan have an answer against USAF. USAF plus Indian military is a lethal punch against any aggressor