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If China fails to develop WS-13 and continues to use RD-93 like JF-17, will Russians allow the sales of jets that use their engines and compete with Russian jets in the market?

J-31 and J-20 are best operated using Saturn AL-41F1 engines rather than RD-93. May be Izdeliye 30 in future.
 
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US said China will be easily defeated in the Korean war too. What happened was China took back control of North Korea once China entered the war and made a complete mockery of the overrated US military :lol:
B-b-but rememer! U.S. lost less soldier than China! That makes China the loser. Never mind Chinas losses came from singlehandedly fighting against a larger army of almost two dozen invading nations and South Korean army at at the same time, while the North Korean army was already in shambles before China entered the war. Never mind Chinas losses have been lower than the combined allied losses unless you want to believe the butthurt U.S. propaganda.
And rember China didn't conquer whole South Korea! Only reset every gain the invading allies made back to point zero and reconquered the whole by the North Koreans lost North. That makes the allies the winner and China the loser!

Finest plumber logic!
 
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What stops US attacking China is not the absence of Su-35, or even J-20, but China's economy and long-range nukes.

As long as the economy is on track and nukes are effective, China doesn't need Su-35, which btw will not be a major deciding factor in a war btw China and the US.

What will the PLA do if the US uses their conventional forces to destroy China's nuclear arsenal?
Since China has a no-first-use nuclear policy, China won't be able to use its nuclear weapons since the US didn't use their nuclear weapons.
 
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What will the PLA do if the US uses their conventional forces to destroy China's nuclear arsenal?
Since China has a no-first-use nuclear policy, China won't be able to use its nuclear weapons since the US didn't use their nuclear weapons.

Not possible as China has a highly survivable nuclear triad.
 
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What will the PLA do if the US uses their conventional forces to destroy China's nuclear arsenal?
Since China has a no-first-use nuclear policy, China won't be able to use its nuclear weapons since the US didn't use their nuclear weapons.

1. 3,000 mile Underground Great Wall.
2. Road-mobile DF-31B and DF-41.
3. DF-5B in hidden silos.
4. How do you know China doesn't have ICBMs hidden in rail cars?
5. 094/096 SSBN
 
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1. 3,000 mile Underground Great Wall.
2. Road-mobile DF-31B and DF-41.
3. DF-5B in hidden silos.
4. How do you know China doesn't have ICBMs hidden in rail cars?
5. 094/096 SSBN

But US could invade China with its conventional military and destroy those nuclear weapons.
Will China retaliate with nukes if the US destroys China's nuclear force with conventional weapons?
 
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The West said the PLA was a backward military and after Desert Storm where the PLA was embarrassed by its own pathetically flawed opinion of the West, the PLA changed. So what are you complaining about ?
We all get the wrong idea about potential adversaries sometimes, like how the US got the wrong idea in Korea.
 
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PLA must pay double Russian Air Force’s price for Su-35 fighter
Published August 13, 2015 | By admin
SOURCE: WANTCHINA TIMES

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China’s People’s Liberation Army Air Force must pay double what the Russian Air Force pays to purchase the country’s Su-35 fighter, a source from Russia’s aviation industry told the Moscow-based Vedomosti in a report published Aug. 11.

A contract for a new batch of Su-35 multirole air superiority fighters for the Russian Air Force will be signed between the Moscow-based United Aircraft Corporation and Russia’s defense ministry at the opening ceremony of the Russian Worldwide Air Show, or MAKS 2015, on Aug. 25. Under the contract, UAC will supply 48 Su-35 fighters to the Russian Air Force before 2020. Sergey Shoigu, the country’s defense minister, ordered that all tests and trials for the plane must be completed before the end of this year.

The total price for the 48 fighters will be US$1.58 billion, sources told the newspaper. Konstantin Makiyenko, an analyst from the Center for Analysis of Strategies and Technologies in Moscow, said this is the largest deal between UAC and the defense ministry this year, since the air force may not purchase additional Su-30SM fighters and Su-34 tactical bombers in near future.

Russia has also approved the sale of 24 Su-35 fighters to China for a reported price of US$1.5 billion. With China apparently made to pay double what the Russian government pays per unit, this may be one of the reasons the two sides have yet to reach an agreement on the terms of the sale.
 
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China with reserves of 2-3 Trillion dollaras does it care about a mere 1 Billion extra payment ??
 
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The Point.



Ask this to US who with 1 Trillion Defence Budget afford only 200 F22s.
China needs Engines, Not the Jets.

Hi, XiNiX, the J-11D reportedly uses the 140 kN upgraded WS-10 engine, which differs from the 117S only in 2 kN of thrust and vectoring, the latter of which is of dubious significance in modern combat.
 
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I am not against the purchase of 24 or even more Su-35s for political reasons。

But keeping writing and posting old rehashed one-sided “story” is dead boring。:hitwall:

The Point.



Ask this to US who with 1 Trillion Defence Budget afford only 200 F22s.
China needs Engines, Not the Jets.

The S117 is only slightly better in thrust than the WS-10G。

And if you read Chinese,recent OFFICIAL reports suggest that China is on the cusp of solving its engine weakness once and for all:

中国近期试飞多款自主研制新型航空发动机 |发动机|中国|战机_新浪军事

Perhaps WantChinaTimes can do us all a favour and translate the above article into English。:D
 
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