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[Beast]

So you are saying that Russians wont raise an issue if J-31 powered by RD-93 is sold to Pakistan? Moreover I have even read that the reason why PAF has delayed the purchase of J-10B is because Russian don't want their engines in Pakistan's hands, may be due to Indian pressure.

Why until now you still believe Indian has leverage on Russian political decision. Let me ask you a basic fact, How did JF-17 got the RD-93 engine from Russian in the first place? China has a bigger political influence on Russian than Indian. It is solely on China account that Russian agree to sell RD-93 engine for JF-17. Even Singh who attempt to lobby for blocking of the RD-93 engine got bluntly rejected by Putin when he personally visited Russia in the 2008.

As for J-31, RD-93 can never satisfy J-31 engine. RD-93 is used just solely to speed up the development process. It will need the Chinese engine when the export model is finalised. And I do not understand why Pakistanis rather believe in western sources who dont even know a single Chinese for information regarding Chinese military development?

 

[Pakistanisage]

So you are saying that Russians wont raise an issue if J-31 powered by RD-93 is sold to Pakistan? Moreover I have even read that the reason why PAF has delayed the purchase of J-10B is because Russian don't want their engines in Pakistan's hands, may be due to Indian pressure.

What ? HELLO .....You must be waking up from deep slumber.

Russia has already agreed to sell the Russian engine directly to Pakistan.


IDEAS 2014: Pakistani defence minister says Russia ready to sell RD-93 engine directly to Islamabad - IHS Jane's 360

Why did Russia approve RD 93 engine sale for Pakistan's JF 17? | Indian Defence Forum

Russia ready to sell RD-93 engine directly to Islamabad

 

[SBD-3]

So you are saying that Russians wont raise an issue if J-31 powered by RD-93 is sold to Pakistan? Moreover I have even read that the reason why PAF has delayed the purchase of J-10B is because Russian don't want their engines in Pakistan's hands, may be due to Indian pressure.

And probably thats why they made an agreement with Pakistan to allow direct export of RD-93?

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

This article is 100% not true.

 

[Tipu7]

This article is 100% not true.

how? give counter agreements?

 

[j20blackdragon]

We show the J-20.

The Western media says we need the Su-35.

We show the FC-31.

The Western media says we need the Su-35.

We show J-11D with AESA and domestic engines.

The Western media says we need the Su-35.

My question is very simple: what do we need to do before we DON'T need the Su-35?

 

[gambit]

We show the J-20.

The Western media says we need the Su-35.

We show the FC-31.

The Western media says we need the Su-35.

We show J-11D with AESA and domestic engines.

The Western media says we need the Su-35.

My question is very simple: what do we need to do before we DON'T need the Su-35?

The West said the PLA was a backward military and after Desert Storm where the PLA was embarrassed by its own pathetically flawed opinion of the West, the PLA changed. So what are you complaining about ?

 

[Globenim]

We show the J-20.

The Western media says we need the Su-35.

We show the FC-31.

The Western media says we need the Su-35.

We show J-11D with AESA and domestic engines.

The Western media says we need the Su-35.

My question is very simple: what do we need to do before we DON'T need the Su-35?

In 5 years they will just switch to the next Russian plane. These reports exist obviously because China is making great progress with the engines and the sole purpose it to deny it with contradicting lies. The intend by U.S. state controlled "free" propaganda is obviously mainly to undermine Chinas military industrial complex to make sympathizers wary of buying Chinese arms and downplay Chinas military strength as a means to encourage lackey regimes like Vietnam to act more rebellious and take away the publics fear and unwillingness to support a conflict with a China that could easily bomb smaller foes like Vietnam back to stone age with minimal losses these days.

It should be obvious why Russians would propagate their products as superior and needed by China.

 

[Beidou2020]

The West said the PLA was a backward military and after Desert Storm where the PLA was embarrassed by its own pathetically flawed opinion of the West, the PLA changed. So what are you complaining about ?

US said China will be easily defeated in the Korean war too. What happened was China took back control of North Korea once China entered the war and made a complete mockery of the overrated US military

 

[siegecrossbow]

We show the J-20.

The Western media says we need the Su-35.

We show the FC-31.

The Western media says we need the Su-35.

We show J-11D with AESA and domestic engines.

The Western media says we need the Su-35.

My question is very simple: what do we need to do before we DON'T need the Su-35?

For J-20 to enter service en-mass.

 

[IND151]

Interesting Article

 

[S10]

Why China does not need Su-35:

1. J-20
2. J-31
3. J-16
4. J-11D
5. WS-10B (14 ton thrust, FADEC)

 

[Akasa]

Why China does not need Su-35:

1. J-20
2. J-31
3. J-16
4. J-11D
5. WS-10B (14 ton thrust, FADEC)

It is rumored the J-15S will enter service with an AESA radar, so that would be one more reason.

 

[Speeder 2]

What stops US attacking China is not the absence of Su-35, or even J-20, but China's economy and long-range nukes.

As long as the economy is on track and nukes are effective, China doesn't need Su-35, which btw will not be a major deciding factor in a war btw China and the US.

 

[Jlaw]

What stops US attacking China is not the absence of Su-35, or even J-20, but China's economy and long-range nukes.

As long as the economy is on track and nukes are effective, China doesn't need Su-35, which btw will not be a major deciding factor in a war btw China and the US.

No it won't but it will make the Indians paranoid, running around shouting "Cheen this, Cheen that.."

that itself is worth the price.