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the fact is India cannt make modern plan as simple as that, prove otherwiseWhat logic your an epic fail like your counterparts on this thread.
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the fact is India cannt make modern plan as simple as that, prove otherwiseWhat logic your an epic fail like your counterparts on this thread.
You can try if u wanna lose North TawangSure we can, we're just wait to use as bargain against South Tibet...The water valve can be tighten any time, remember this water on China's side is China property...we can do what ever we want.
The same applies to our muslims and christians . How funny would it be if i mention Mongols and Manchus are ur mastersYes, half of Mongol is part of China..Manchu is part of China..manchuirans and Inner Mongolians are our brothers and sisters...you have prove nothing...
wtf are u talking? do u have mind? They got nuked because they attacked you .as for Japaneses...they got nuked as rewards...someone revenge for us and we have clean hands...isn't that wonderfull.
A great fighter on the paper only indeed!!!
Similarly S-400 is among the high end side of air defense and Russia won’t export it so easily, even if China wants it they may have to wait for it for next 4-5 years until Russia may reach final stage of development of S-500. But yes Chinese arm industry has been improved enough till now and we hope they would produce one of the best aircrafts and other defense arms after just 8 to 10 years from now. But as US is itself struggling with development of F35, while it is believed that F22 is good due to having stealth techs only but it lacks many other 'competent' capabilities for what their engineers are struggling with F35 also right now, therefore, it is still doubtful how much Russia or China will be able to make a better 5th gen stealth aircraft than US’s, as, US’s arm industry isn’t backward to either Russia or China . US is facing serious problems with F35 at its final stage of development while Russia and China are still on the early stage of development of their 5th gen aircrafts?Part of the presentation showed a computer simulation which calculated that the F-35 would be consistently defeated by the Russian-made SU-35 fighter aircraft. The defeat calculated by the scenario also showed the loss of the F-35's supporting airborne-early warning and air-to-air refueling aircraft.
Independent air combat analysts from Air Power Australia have also stated that the F-35 is not capable of facing high end threats; that what will be delivered (if it ever arrives) will be obsolete; and that the F-35 is not affordable or sustainable.
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How about CAC employees. As far as I know the stuff they released are far more accurate than any Western source or other Chinese sources so far. The AESA on the J-11B are greater than 1200 modules although we do not know the number. The individual modules allow the J-11B's radar to jam, a portion of the modules can be allotted for that. Seeing how the J-11B has more powerful powerplants, the power rating of the AESA is dependent on its platform, not the AESA itself.
I can show you pictures of the J-11Bs with WS-10 engines. And as far as I know no pilot ever mentioned it.
Superior engine? In what? Lower thrust? Avionics? The Su-30MKI's and Rafale's radar have a lower channel count than the J-11B, and with the J-11B employing more powerful powerplants, I expect its power rating to be higher as well. Jammers, as far as I know, are integrated separately int he Su-30MKI and with a smaller radar I don't know how you arrived at the theory that the Rafale will have better jammers. And have you seen PLAAF pilots? If not, then you have no basis for that theory. Kinematic performance will be in J-11B's favor simply due to more powerful engines and a lighter airframe.
and PAKFA will think once to attack China twicewow that good now indian SU30MKI is would be think twice invading chinas air space
wow that good now indian SU30MKI is would be think twice invading chinas air space
No the power ratings are primarily dependent on the Radar Itself... the power plant comes as secondary after cooling.
The PLAAF pilot publically complained about lack of Thrust and poor acceleration performances besides the low TBO and serviceability issues which have surfaced from time to time.
Better Show me a picture of J-11B with AESA... or have you seen for yourself.. or your military insider ?
Superior engine in terms of better core temperature, Higher sustained thrust without using AB, better acceleration performances, Higher TBO, Higher service life, TVC, to name a few.
You can compare the color of flame produced by J-11B engine and Su30MKI engine to give you an idea of core and Inlet temperature.
What made you conclude that Su30MKI radar have lower channel count ?.... Rafale radar is smaller due to nose size... while Su30MKI radar is 990mm biggest in all flanker varies and all combat planes.... and the channel count is about 1700 modules/phase shifters
Yes I have seen PLAAF pilots.. none pull out a supersonic thanche.. or on axis turns or a high speed split... If they do.. then show me a video of J-11 pulling 80degress AOA at high speed....
There is no point in having a large radar power rating if you can't deliver enough juice. Anyways, seeing how they have managed to pack the modules efficiently and thoroughly and their experience in such radars, I think their power ratings should be decent purely on a technological basis.
As far as I know the WS-10A specifications according to the airshow was 132 kN, higher than that of the Al-31, and also has a longer service hour. What you are referring to are the original ones that have already been fixed.
The J-11B's AESA was confirmed by military insiders as well as a recent exhibition. You can believe it or not but so far almost all of the information talked by the insiders have been accurate. If they were able to announce the J-20 two years in advanced, I have no doubt their AESA talk are accurate as well.
We do not know the non afterburning thrusts of the WS-10 or Al-31, so hold off until we get further information. Acceleration depends on thrust to weight ratio, and with the J-11B's airframe being 700 kg lighter than other Flanker due to composites, the J-11B's thrust to weight ratio will be much higher than that of the Su-30MKI. The J-11B engine produces a blue flame. PLAAF never publicizes its exercises, so we do not know whether they did those stunts or not. The Su-30MKI uses a Zhuk AE, the base variant of which uses 680 modules. The largest variant uses 1000 modules, but that is still lower than that of the J-10B's radar, which is smaller than the one used on PLAAF heavy fighters
The efficiency of a Radar is determined with Power and Aperture product... you need to have modules with higher rating.. the GaAs transistors can't deliver as high power as a GaN transistor... do you know how much power the engine produces in comparison to what is required by the Radar... and other electronics ?
Al-31 have different variants... Al-31FN-M3 produces thrust as high as 155kN... which would be installed on Su30MKI as the upgrade.
Nothing new with that... even I predicted Russians to show their plane by 2009-10.
Acceleration depends of fuel burn rate performance, T/W ratio of Engine, Amount of air Intake, core and intake temperature.. etc..Al-31 T/W ratio for the later variants is 10 and for WS-10 its 9.... the latest variants of Al-31 has T/W ratio as high as 10.5...
Show me the picture of J-11B with After Burners.
Neither does IAF publicize its exercise... but they pull 80+ degrees AOA with Su30 in public.. PLAAF too shows maneuvers with J-10.... show me a similar public performance of J-11.. If you don't have of any exercise.
Su30MKI doesn't use Zhuk AE... But It would be upgraded with Zhuk ASE with 1700 T/R modules rated at 20/25 watts per channel... even BARs has around 1700 modules.
And how do you know that the Su-30MKI's has higher power rating than the one on the J-11B?
The engine you mentioned has a maximum thrust of 14.5 tons, not 155 kN, and show me the source that said what you said.
Acceleration of the aircraft is decided by the aircraft thrust to weight ratio since the airframes play a big part. The J-11B uses a lightened airframe that saves over 700 kg. So far the Su-30MKI hasn't incorporated that kind of lightening yet.
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So then we can not say the J-11B can't do the maneuvers the Su-30MKI did.
The ASE was an estimate and it is not built yet; and show me the source
Power aperture product of Bars stand at 36-38dBWm2... I leave you for comparison... The Al-31FN-M-2 has 145kN and Al-31FN-M-3 has thrust figures as High as 150kN+5kN to be used on purpose.
The T/W ratio of engines matters more.
I asked about J-11B picture with Afterburners not some random engine photo.
Yes J-11B cannot do such maneuvers... clearly incapable and not build for such thing.
ASE is currently being put on Su30MKI as we speak... you can look any where on internet.... the calculation of Zhuk-AE for 990mm nose would give you figures around 1700... If improvements in packing wouldn't have improved in all these years.
[SIZE=5]Russia Close to Sign Su-35 Fighter Deal With China[/SIZE]
Russia and China may soon sign a $4-bln contract on the delivery of 48 Sukhoi Su-35 Flanker-E fighter jets to the Chinese air force, Russia’s Kommersant business daily said on Tuesday.
“The sides have practically agreed on the delivery of 48 Su-35 multirole fighters, worth $4 billion, to China,” Kommersant said citing a source in the Russian defense industry.
According to the paper, the only obstacle remaining is Moscow’s demand that Beijing should guarantee the protection of copyrights on the production of Su-35s without proper licensing.
“Moscow is not only aiming to ensure its presence on the Chinese [combat aircraft] market, but also attempting to prevent the potential copycat production of Russian aircraft for subsequent sales to third parties with predatory pricing,” a Russian government source told Kommesant.
China has a poor record concerning copycat manufacturing of advanced Russian combat aircraft.
Russian experts claim that Chinese Chengdu J-10 fighter is a copy of Su-27 Flanker, Shenyang J-11 is a replica of Su-30 Flanker-C, and FC-1 is a copy of MiG-29 Fulcrum.
The Su-35, powered by two 117S engines with thrust vectoring, combines high maneuverability and the capability to effectively engage several air targets simultaneously using both guided and unguided missiles and weapon systems.
The aircraft has been touted as "4++ generation using fifth-generation technology."
Russia Close to Sign Su-35 Fighter Deal With China | World | RIA Novosti
Russia Close to Sign Su-35 Fighter Deal With China
Russian experts claim that Chinese Chengdu J-10 fighter is a copy of Su-27 Flanker, Shenyang J-11 is a replica of Su-30 Flanker-C, and FC-1 is a copy of MiG-29 Fulcrum. http://en.rian.ru/world/20120306/171780246.html