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[LKJ86]

https://m.weibo.cn/1240246333/4238582413663589

 

[LKJ86]

https://m.weibo.cn/1617093763/4238615175704206

 

[帅的一匹]

Should have inducted the production line of Su35.

Maybe there will be following orders for Su35.

I won't feel surprised if another 48 units ordered,customized version.

I think we shall spend some of the trade surplus, it's won't be good if all the money deposited in bank.

 

[Beast]

Should have inducted the production line of Su35.

Maybe there will be following orders for Su35.

I won't feel surprised if another 48 units ordered,customized version.

I think we shall spend some of the trade surplus, it's won't be good if all the money deposited in bank.

Lol... J-16 is better spend. Although more expensive than J-20 but still better than Su-35

 

[帅的一匹]

Lol... J-16 is better spend. Although more expensive than J-20 but still better than Su-35

Air-superior Su35 is a better choice. J16 is good to run SEAD and maritime operation.

 

[Beast]

Air-superior Su35 is a better choice. J16 is good to run SEAD and maritime operation.

Su-35 is nothing , just bought to balance trade with Russian. They maybe sold to PAF in later stages. J-16 with more superior radar will launch BVRAAM first than Su-35 against enemy.

 

[帅的一匹]

Su-35 is nothing , just bought to balance trade with Russian. They maybe sold to PAF in later stages. J-16 with more superior radar will launch BVRAAM first than Su-35 against enemy.

Don't be arrogant, PLAAF is no idiot.

 

[Beast]

Don't be arrogant, PLAAF is no idiot.

You are ignorant and have inferiority complex. China don’t need people like you.

 

[帅的一匹]

Although J20 is much superior, can PLAAF bear the risk of deploying J20 at SCS right now?
J20 is a ultimate weapon we can only deploy it in real war.

You are ignorant and have inferiority complex. China don’t need people like you.

You are idiot, period

 

[Beast]

Although J20 is much superior, can PLAAF bear the risk of deploying J20 at SCS right now?
J20 is a ultimate weapon we can only deploy it in real war.


You are idiot, period

J-16 with PL-15 LVRAAM will be a nightmare for USAF.

 

[帅的一匹]

Although J20 is superior, you don't have to belittle Su35.

J-16 with PL-15 LVRAAM will be a nightmare for USAF.

J16 is very good, but it's not air-superior in WVR.护航都是短兵相接的. Let's agree to disagree. I'm a pragmatist.

Su-35 is nothing , just bought to balance trade with Russian. They maybe sold to PAF in later stages. J-16 with more superior radar will launch BVRAAM first than Su-35 against enemy.

China bought Su35 to serve patrol operation, not to balance the trade surplus with Russia. PLAAF never buy anything useless.

Don't twist the facts.

Pilots engage with Su35 in WVR will get mental stress. That's a real threat and psychological deterrence.

Japanese pilots recognized they felt very stressed when confront the J11series and Su30MKK.

In the current patrol around Taiwan, PLAAF deployed Su35 directly flying to the patrol area, and deployed J10 to escort KJ2000 AWACS to the patrol area to team up with Su35. That's clear division of work.

 

[Beast]

Although J20 is superior, you don't have to belittle Su35.


J16 is very good, but it's not air-superior in WVR.护航都是短兵相接的. Let's agree to disagree. I'm a pragmatist.


China bought Su35 to serve patrol operation, not to balance the trade surplus with Russia. PLAAF never buy anything useless.

Don't twist the facts.

Pilots engage with Su35 in WVR will get mental stress. That's a real threat and psychological deterrence.

Japanese pilots recognized they felt very stressed when confront the J11series and Su30MKK.

In the current patrol around Taiwan, PLAAF deployed Su35 directly flying to the patrol area, and deployed J10 to escort KJ2000 AWACS to the patrol area to team up with Su35. That's clear division of work.

J-16 is definitely can be used as air superior in WVR, don’t be naive and think it can’t. You think it’s JH-7A?
It just like saying Su-30MKK cant be used as Air superior too.

If Su-35 is so good, why China buy the minimal number of 24 require to be exported? Why not 96? You are delusion.

 

[帅的一匹]

J-16 is definitely can be used as air superior in WVR, don’t be naive and think it can’t. You think it’s JH-7A?
It just like saying Su-30MKK cant be used as Air superior too.

If Su-35 is so good, why China buy the minimal number of 24 require to be exported? Why not 96? You are delusion.

J16 can be used in WVR, but it's not good as Su35. Per BVR, J16 is better or at least on par with Su35. J16D Chinese Grwoler is a monster.

You still remember EA-18G shot down F22 in excercise?

It's very delightful to see something like EA-18G in PLAAF and PLAN.

 

[Figaro]

Should have inducted the production line of Su35.

Maybe there will be following orders for Su35.

I won't feel surprised if another 48 units ordered,customized version.

I think we shall spend some of the trade surplus, it's won't be good if all the money deposited in bank.

I disagree. First, the Russians would never consent to another license agreement, especially after the J-11 fiasco. Even then, I highly doubt the Chinese would do so as they would be an embarrassment of their aviation industry as many observers will undoubtedly question domestic aircraft. Moreover, why in the world would China order more Su-35s or induct a production line if they can just speed up J-20 production??? A production line would be a nightmare in terms of logistics and the Su-35 would have a highly difficult time integrating with the PLAAF. Why would China need Su-35s if they already have J-20s? The reason for the purchase was to make up for the delay in the J-11D program and the need for an immediate air superiority operations, particularly in the SCS. Another 48 orders would be completely illogical, especially given the state of the J-20 and the J-16. In actual combat, I am pretty concerned about the inter-connectivity of the Su-35 with other PLAAF fighters.

J-16 is definitely can be used as air superior in WVR, don’t be naive and think it can’t. You think it’s JH-7A?
It just like saying Su-30MKK cant be used as Air superior too.

If Su-35 is so good, why China buy the minimal number of 24 require to be exported? Why not 96? You are delusion.

Indeed. Especially since the Chinese tried so hard to reduce the 48 initially required by the Russians to only 24. I think the PLAAF really wanted to test the J-20's WVR and BVR capabilities against the a very capable warplane ...

 

[帅的一匹]

I disagree. First, the Russians would never consent to another license agreement, especially after the J-11 fiasco. Even then, I highly doubt the Chinese would do so as they would be an embarrassment of their aviation industry as many observers will undoubtedly question domestic aircraft. Moreover, why in the world would China order more Su-35s or induct a production line if they can just speed up J-20 production??? A production line would be a nightmare in terms of logistics and the Su-35 would have a highly difficult time integrating with the PLAAF. Why would China need Su-35s if they already have J-20s? The reason for the purchase was to make up for the delay in the J-11D program and the need for an immediate air superiority operations, particularly in the SCS. Another 48 orders would be completely illogical, especially given the state of the J-20 and the J-16.


Indeed. Especially since the Chinese tried so hard to reduce the 48 initially required by the Russians to only 24.

I think Su35 is a great add to PLAAF. As to why China need Su35 if we already have J20? This is a pseudo-proposition.

Su35 is not the future for sure, it's the force now.

Su35 is a perfect proxy to do dirty work for j20 in SCS and patrol around Taiwan.

Why I need a Lamborghini when I already have a Buggati Veyron？what kind of lame logic is that?

歼20乃国之重器，岂可轻易示人。