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you dont need 1000+ Iphones to make calls and sending messages```
Su-35 is a political, economical, military and technical matter````not one alone can make this deal go through``

in terms of military and technical, it has nothing to do with 'filling' production capacity or engine or radar. the real deal is:

1: keeping up with the best kits that neighbors/opponents have (american would love to buy our J-10, 20 and FC-31 if we allow, but that doesnt mean China is more advanced than U.S in terms of aviation)

2: checking out their structural design (for the previous decade, SAC has a big problem of solving flankers structure flaws, especially when they changed almost all the important parts of the plane to domestic made, which made the problem even worse. only recently with the active service of J-15, J-16 and later on J-11D has the problem solved. but they still want to know how Russian's solved this problem with Su-35... in our circle, we call Su-35 the 'ultimate flanker')

to many people here think that an arse kicking plane is because they have arse kicking radars and engines```lol```but in our circle it far from that, if not million miles away from that misconception`! its a very very very complex issue that involves hundreds different fields of expertise!

the best example, not wanting to troll, is LCA, with all the decent parts from various renowned foreign companies, it is still not a decent plane.

in our circle, the real break through is J-10 and J-20, they are the real indigenous stuff from scratch, Chinese flankers are, as most western and Indian people like to put, products of 'copy'```indeed we learnt loads of things from flankers```even the armies and top brass wasnt very happy with original flanker's sub systems ```but as a whole, with sophisticated system support, it is indeed an excellent plane!

Nicely explained.
 
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The latest rumors suggest that the Su-35s have been moved from FTTC to another airbase in the south. So, this is not for an aggressor squadron after all?


Interesting ... any more info on what base this could be ?
 
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2nd Fighter Division of the 6th Squadron, based out of Zhanjiang.

Uppps .. that would be an interesting development ! 6. AR, 2. AD would be a replacement of the Su-27SK/UBK & J-11A at Suixi !?


Could it be that this image is an old one showing a Su-35 landing at Zhuhai 2014?


Like I said, this images was taken at Zhuhai in 2014.

Chinese Su-35 delivery at Cangzhou FTTC - 25.12.16 - 8 at Zhuhai.jpg


Hmm ...


 
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The first has just landed on China.
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There are two dimensions in the SU35 deal.
Politically, Putin wanted this deal so the money can be put into the T50 program.
Militarily, China could use it for cat and mouse game on the Japan sea and the south China sea without revealing the secret of its main battle jets.
A win win for both.
These Su-35 are for PAF. They will be station at Gwadar port under the disguise of PLAAF but maintained by Pakistan crew. Indian government has stated objection for any major weapon systems by Russia to Pakistan. Russia is just playing the blame push game. China is not allowed to export any of their clone flanker series including J-11B, J-16. The only way for PAF to obtain heavy long range strike fighter is to buy Russia Su-35 which serves China purpose of PAF having the mean to protect Gwadar port and at the same time a deterrent for PAF against India aggression.

China is just acting as a middleman for the whole deal. Why would China need Su-35 when they just inducted J-20. The talk of needing the software and 117S engine looks like a whole joke. The J-20 has installed a more powerful and advance domestic engine. There is no need for 117S engine.
 
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Ohh please not that nonsense again !! :hitwall::hitwall:

The Chinese side will never, never break that contract and deliver these birds to Pakistan.
Why is it so much hurt to accept that this deal - even if not necessary - simply has a political content and as a positive side effect could provide the PLAAF for the first time with an operational use of TCV the J-20 still lacks.

I know some really seem to be obsessed and even more annoyed by that deal ... but Pakistan, NEVER !!:crazy:

Deino
 
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Ohh please not that nonsense again !! :hitwall::hitwall:

The Chinese side will never, never break that contract and deliver these birds to Pakistan.
Why is it so much hurt to accept that this deal - even if not necessary - simply has a political content and as a positive side effect could provide the PLAAF for the firs time with an operational use of TCV??

But Pakistan, NEVER !!:crazy:

Deino

I would imagine that the Su-35s would make a decent aggressor squadron to complement the upcoming J-11D fitted with WS-10IPE engines.
 
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Ohh please not that nonsense again !! :hitwall::hitwall:

The Chinese side will never, never break that contract and deliver these birds to Pakistan.
Why is it so much hurt to accept that this deal - even if not necessary - simply has a political content and as a positive side effect could provide the PLAAF for the first time with an operational use of TCV the J-20 still lacks.

I know some really seem to be obsessed and even more annoyed by that deal ... but Pakistan, NEVER !!:crazy:

Deino
We shall wait and see!
 
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These Su-35 are for PAF. They will be station at Gwadar port under the disguise of PLAAF but maintained by Pakistan crew. Indian government has stated objection for any major weapon systems by Russia to Pakistan. Russia is just playing the blame push game. China is not allowed to export any of their clone flanker series including J-11B, J-16. The only way for PAF to obtain heavy long range strike fighter is to buy Russia Su-35 which serves China purpose of PAF having the mean to protect Gwadar port and at the same time a deterrent for PAF against India aggression.

China is just acting as a middleman for the whole deal. Why would China need Su-35 when they just inducted J-20. The talk of needing the software and 117S engine looks like a whole joke. The J-20 has installed a more powerful and advance domestic engine. There is no need for 117S engine.
Not gonna be possible, you need to have a rest.

I would imagine that the Su-35s would make a decent aggressor squadron to complement the upcoming J-11D fitted with WS-10IPE engines.
It will be deployed to the SCS direction, Cang Zhou is just the ferry station. Who will make decent fighter like Su35 serves as dedicated aggressor squadrons, it's too luxurious for PLAAF.
 
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Looks great, thanks for sharing bro

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The Su-35 is a wonderful fighter ... just make China Airforce stronger, China is building the Big Airforce with 1,000~1,500x 3-gen & 4-gen fighters in next years, future PLAAF's J-20, (J-21 maybe), Su-35, Su-30, J-16, J-15, J-11B, J-10B, J-10A fighter numbers will be more than others in the region, those advanced fighters made by China & Russia can face any threat from outside to protect China sky. Just hope China can learn some new tech from this Su-35 deal.:-)
 
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