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China ahead of India in scientific research, says PM Manmohan Singh

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no, I was wrong, not yet, but soon

You sure.. As your 1 child policy is not working as well as you wished. cases like octomoms are happening these days in China so you will still stay ahead unless you hide all the octomoms and multiple kids getting born in rural under the carpet..

Another important thing that's quite apparent is - there are studies which suggests single child generally have Behavioral problems and looking at you Chinese on this forum, it appears to be holding its points.. You guys look for fights even when somebody is saying you are ahead.. Kids, go easy and take a deep breath..

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Götterdämmerung;2457844 said:
Self-depreciation is as unhealthy as self-glorification. Being down-to-earth is in IMHO the best way.

Yeah, we exactly know what you mean.. So don't worry be happy..
 
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Götterdämmerung;2457769 said:
What's the matter with the IQ that you keep mentioning? India is not much in German media for obvious reasons. So don't expect me to know much of what technological progress you make in India. We are simply playing in a different league.

Ok, so why do you even bother visiting India specific threads and indulge in the debates? If you know nothing stay in your different league. Looking at the European mess, I know how good that league is?? but it will be white for sure if that's what you mean..

Or is it that you get a kick out of how you are shown a boot for your lack of knowledge/stupidity on these threads? Tell us, honestly..

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OK your PM is lying india is well ahead of china .... hope this makes your day too

Never mind.. are you a single kid??
 
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What does he mean "overtaken by countries like China"???

Does that "overtaken" happen in recent years???



Bl[i]tZ;2456453 said:
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BHUBHNESHWAR: The 'China versus India' debate continues to rankle the government at all levels was evident with PM Manmohan Singh noting that "India's relative position in the world of science had been declining and we have been overtaken by countries like China." He was speaking at the 99th Indian National Science Congress at Bhubhneshwar on Tuesday.

His inaugural lecture meant to celebrate the scientific advances in India came tempered with some hard facts and some subtle hints of why research in India lags behind the world.

"As far as resources are concerned, the fraction of GDP spent on R&D in India has been too low and stagnant. We must aim to increase the total R&D spending as a percentage of GDP to 2% by the end of the XII Plan Period from the current level of about 0.9%," PM said.

He accepted that already one-fourth of the research contribution was coming from the private sector. But his suggestion that the contribution had to increase further was in part an indictment of public sector research centres across the country.

"We have to increase public private partnerships and catalyse significantly increased interaction between publicly owned S&T institutions and industry," Singh said.

"It is in some ways ironic that GE and Motorola have created world class technology hubs in India, while our own industry has not done so, except perhaps in the pharma sector," he added in a criticism of the science policy as well as the domestic industrial giants of the country.

While Singh did reaffirm that "India had moved from the 15th rank in 2003 to the 9th rank in 2010 with respect to the number of publications in peer valued journals" he also pointed out that India lagged behind on applied sciences and the focus was fixed more on fundamental research. .

Speaking before PM, the Union science and technology and earth sciences minister Vilasrao Deshmukh too had evoked a comparison with China to claim that India was lagging behind on applied sciences. "China publishes five times more patents than India for every billion US dollars of GDP," he said.

Manmohan Singh also reflected on how students of sciences shifted to other careers after education. "While it is true that science and engineering continue to attract the best students, many of them later opt for other careers because of poor prospects in science." He also referred to a recent survey of 2000 Indian women PhD holders in science which had found 60% of them unemployed. He noted that the main reason was discrimination and unlike the public image, 'family reasons' was cited by only a few in explaining their unemployment.

Speaking before him, the chairperson of the science congress Geeta Bali who is also the vice-chancellor of Karnataka State Women's University had noted that the number of women employed at the high end of research institutions and academia declined disproportionately.

China ahead of India in scientific research, says PM Manmohan Singh - The Times of India

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Nuclear sub - lease/rental. Indigenous one has a reactor???
Space Tech - C'mon. Are you kidding ?? You have manned space flight??
Missile Tech - Brahmos is Russian, you have ASBM ???

Your IQ is clear for all to see.

Some body explain the meaning of catching up to this learned soul.. Seriously I pity you for the kind of school you had to go to as a child..
 
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plz do a research before applying ur great brains ??? akula was contracted much before before arihant was shown in it's protype stages & it was ordered to train indian navymen to operate a nuke sub .:coffee:

Wikipedia:

It was reported that the nuclear reactor and other systems were not included at the time of the submarine's launch. Navy chief Admiral Nirmal Verma said in December 2009, "Work is in progress to make INS Arihant operational for sea-trials...it should be inducted in two years or so." In 2010, the submarine was reported to have begun its sea trials with the submarine to be formally inducted into the Indian Navy by 2011.[17][18][19] Full integration of key systems and sea trials are expected to be extensive.[4] It is expected to be ready for operational deployment by the end of 2012.[20]
 
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Ok, so why do you even bother visiting India specific threads and indulge in the debates? If you know nothing stay in your different league. Looking at the European mess, I know how good that league is?? but it will be white for sure if that's what you mean..

Or is it that you get a kick out of how you are shown a boot for your lack of knowledge/stupidity on these threads? Tell us, honestly..

It's non of your business why I'm here or anywhere else. This is not your private forum.

I was talking about my country, which is still doing exceptionally well.

I was asking a legit question. Nobody knows everything or are you claiming to know everything? Your fellow countryman made some claims, than it's his obligation to give proofs or else it's just blowing hot air.

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Some body explain the meaning of catching up to this learned soul.. Seriously I pity you for the kind of school you had to go to as a child..

It was your fellow countryman who claimed to have already caught up in certain fields.
 
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Wikipedia:

It was reported that the nuclear reactor and other systems were not included at the time of the submarine's launch. Navy chief Admiral Nirmal Verma said in December 2009, "Work is in progress to make INS Arihant operational for sea-trials...it should be inducted in two years or so." In 2010, the submarine was reported to have begun its sea trials with the submarine to be formally inducted into the Indian Navy by 2011.[17][18][19] Full integration of key systems and sea trials are expected to be extensive.[4] It is expected to be ready for operational deployment by the end of 2012.[20]
now what did i say & what did u post :lol: i had said about akula contract only as u asked this
Then why lease Russian one for $100 million per year? India has too much money, loves Russian charity???
now u see urself when did india contracted for akula & was at that time arihant even shown in public or did we had any idea about arihant ,?:no: THEN????
 
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Götterdämmerung;2457971 said:
It's non of your business why I'm here or anywhere else. This is not your private forum.

I was talking about my country, which is still doing exceptionally well.

I was asking a legit question. Nobody knows everything or are you claiming to know everything? Your fellow countryman made some claims, than it's his obligation to give proofs or else it's just blowing hot air.

Listen buddy that's the problem with you. you know nothing but then indulge into silly arguments.. That's why I said since you got a different league, stick to that.. You make no sense when you get out of your league..

It was your fellow countryman who claimed to have already caught up in certain fields.

Clear comprehension problems.. People on this thread said "India will catch up" not "India has already caught up". But then there are certain fields India is ahead and that is service sector and IT industry..
 
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now what did i say & what did u post :lol: i had said about akula contract only as u asked this

now u see urself when did india contracted for akula & was at that time arihant even shown in public or did we had any idea about arihant ,?:no: THEN????


This is my last post on this subject.
Yes, India should have "any idea about arihant". Nuclear submarine projects don't fly out of people's a$$e$, so yes India should have had an idea about it. Sorry for my language, but it's frustrating debating you. You can take that frustration as an indicator of my intelligence or any way you want.
 
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To match the USA you have to invest heavily in Science and Technology and produce results.China knows this very well,they are doing their job and they are doing it very well.
 
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Listen buddy that's the problem with you. you know nothing but then indulge into silly arguments.. That's why I said since you got a different league, stick to that.. You make no sense when you get out of your league..

Clear comprehension problems.. People on this thread said "India will catch up" not "India has already caught up". But then there are certain fields India is ahead and that is service sector and IT industry..

china is indeed ahead of india in science...india will catch up as she always has...

Your fellow countryman sure did say that India will catch as she always has, which means that there is something that India has already caught up with. Otherwise his/her sentence wouldn't make any sense at all. IIRC, Chinese IT sector by revenue is bigger than Indian IT. Service? I have never experienced Indian service. Probably because not many of you speak German or any other European languages besides English. Also, catching up means that someone was ahead of you. I never knew that China was ever big in call centre or coding service at all.

Yeah, must be my inferior German education ... hmmm. You know what? I stick to whatever I fancy. :)
 
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India can't compete with world especially in scientific research those things happening becoz of our short sighted policies. Lot of reforms needs to taken but currently there is no sign for such move. If current proceeding continues it will leading into great sufferings for our country in near future.
 
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