China admits it: we are cutting off Filipino supply to Ayungin Shoal

[Zero_wing]

Maurya Empire - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Is the evidence.


Chinese do not need any Historic evidences, they invent History, Artifacts and fossils




Kashmir is a Dharmic place and most of sanskrit scriptures point to that fact.



Delusional Chinese, Go and read the invented history of CCP.

Yup the best heck they even killed millions for their lies and to keep one man to rule all of china but please stop feeding this pathetic B-trolls guys and lets get back on topic

 

[Kyusuibu Honbu]

LOL, reading comprehension is needed. I said virtually in regards to how many people speak Mandarin in China, not in regards to India.

First you say

Come to think of it, India today is not even unified! The people do not speak the same language,

Then somehow the term virtually gain great significance in the Chinese context?

awwww..............Backtracking fail!

Indians DO speak many different languages, while almost all of Chinese can communicate effectively with each other.

More unrelated logic.

speaking different languages is one thing, communicating is another, i speak 3 Indian languages and so far never had case where i couldn't communicate with a fellow Indian in Hindi or Urdu.

Anyone who thinks China is a culturally diverse nation needs to get their head examined.

Or maybe teach the ignorant bunch how to use to google


cultural diversity definition - Google Search

Definition: Cultural diversity is when differences in race, ethnicity, language, nationality, religion, and sexual orientation are represented within a community

Are you still going to deny that China different races, ethnicity, language, nationality, religion, and sexual orientation are not present in China?

Chinese aren't being mixed with Austronesians, Dravidians, etc.

Chinese aren't mixed with martians, Pashtuns, Sinhalas or hazaras either.

They are 93% one ethnic group, let alone examining how many are of the same race (which would be much higher).

How does that still not make China as nation culturally diverse. Of course if level of diversity were to be quantified, one could use the word less in China's case.

 

[ephone]

Give me some BC evidence??? So for more than two thousand years, who rule the indian continent???

Maurya Empire - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Is the evidence.


Chinese do not need any Historic evidences, they invent History, Artifacts and fossils




Kashmir is a Dharmic place and most of sanskrit scriptures point to that fact.



Delusional Chinese, Go and read the invented history of CCP.

 

[faithfulguy]

Maurya Empire - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Is the evidence.


Chinese do not need any Historic evidences, they invent History, Artifacts and fossils




Kashmir is a Dharmic place and most of sanskrit scriptures point to that fact.



Delusional Chinese, Go and read the invented history of CCP.

Ashoka's reign of the Indian subcontinent is as long as Charlemagne of Europe. If India has always been one country. Then western Europe has always been a country as well by your logic.

 

[faithfulguy]

post reported for personal insult.



tell your master ccp that you have never controlled those islands , since it is a waste to discuss with you people,no value for your opinion in china or internationally.

by the way India existed as a country before china was united.

Your statement do made some sense. India existed as a country in 1947. And China is still not united.

India was created by the British after Mughal's united a major portion of India. Prior to that India never had a central government. It might have empires that occupied a big portion of India, but they never claimed to be the king or emperor of India as the first empire to use that title were the Mughals. And they got that idea of emperor from the Mongols, their ancestors.

 

[JSCh]

Over 90% of Chinese national identified themselves as Han.

Chinese although are culturally diverse but has always maintain a single identity(Han Chinese) since at least 2000 years ago.

Majority of the peoples of those culturally diverse groups identified themselves as sub-group of that one single identity.

China since 2000 years ago has always has this concept of one "country" one people. Chinese considered that as the natural/rightful state of being.

That idea of one united country might sometimes get disrupted in reality but the concept has always survived and push the Chinese people to strive for it. Consequently China has for the majority of the time one country since 2000 years ago.

 

[filipino_american]

Ancient Chinese Maps did not include the Spratlys and Scarborough.

Chinese Territory ends at Hainan Island

The southernmost point in China, called Tianya Haijiao or “the End of the World”, is on Hainan Island.

Ancient Chinese Maps

1. Year 1461

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A Ming Dynasty map published in 1461. Scarborough and Spratly Islands were not in the map.

2. Year 1561

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A map of the Yuan Dynasty drawn in 1561 showed the Island of Hainan as China’s southernmost territory.

3. Year 1653

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Another Chinese map drawn in 1653 showed the Hainan Island as its southernmost boundary.

4. China’s map in 1728

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Again, no Scarborough or Spratly Islands were not in the map

5. A map of Guangdong province in 1897

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Hainan Island was the end of their territory.

6. 1904 Chinese Map

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7. 1905

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Qing Dynasty in 1905

8. Qing Empire published by Shanghai company in 1908

to be continued.....

 

[filipino_american]

Ashoka's reign of the Indian subcontinent is as long as Charlemagne of Europe. If India has always been one country. Then western Europe has always been a country as well by your logic.

Continuation...

Ancient Chinese Maps did not include the Spratlys and Scarborough

9. 1909

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A Qing Dynasty’s map in 1909 also showed Hainan Island as China’s southernmost land.

10. 1912

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China’s map during the revolution published in 1912 by Japan’s Osaka publisher.

11. 1926

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Republic of China

12. 1935

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Republic of China

13. Europe, Africa and Asia by China in 1939.

 

[filipino_american]

If China bases its SCS Islands Claim on "FIRST DISCOVERY" then return

1. Inner Mongolia to Mongolia
2. Sinkiang to the Central Asians
3. Taiwan to the TAIWANESE ABORIGINES
4. Tibet to the Tibetans.

Also,

The MAP of the WORLD has changed so many times.

1,000 years ago CHINA did NOT INCLUDE Taiwan, Tibet, Inner Mongolia, Sinkiang etc. If China wants to base her Boundary on her ANCIENT MAP then return those CHINESE territories I've mentioned because they were NOT in her 1,000 year old map.

Italy cannot claim all ROMAN EMPIRE LANDS TODAY
Iran cannot claim all PERSIAN EMPIRE LANDS TODAY
Mongolia cannot claim all MONGOL EMPIRE LANDS TODAY

Please have common sense.

Also, the ICJ has a proper CRITERIA how to settle HISTORICAL CLAIMS.

The rejection of CHINA to take the issue before the ICJ is a DIRECT ADMISSION that she cannot prove their so called 9 dash claim.

 

[faithfulguy]

Continuation...

Ancient Chinese Maps did not include the Spratlys and Scarborough

9. 1909

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A Qing Dynasty’s map in 1909 also showed Hainan Island as China’s southernmost land.

10. 1912

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China’s map during the revolution published in 1912 by Japan’s Osaka publisher.

11. 1926

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Republic of China

12. 1935

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Republic of China

13. Europe, Africa and Asia by China in 1939.

Can you show me a Chinese map specifying that these islands belong to Vietnam?

If China bases its SCS Islands Claim on "FIRST DISCOVERY" then return

1. Inner Mongolia to Mongolia
2. Sinkiang to the Central Asians
3. Taiwan to the TAIWANESE ABORIGINES
4. Tibet to the Tibetans.

Also,

The MAP of the WORLD has changed so many times.

1,000 years ago CHINA did NOT INCLUDE Taiwan, Tibet, Inner Mongolia, Sinkiang etc. If China wants to base her Boundary on her ANCIENT MAP then return those CHINESE territories I've mentioned because they were NOT in her 1,000 year old map.

Italy cannot claim all ROMAN EMPIRE LANDS TODAY
Iran cannot claim all PERSIAN EMPIRE LANDS TODAY
Mongolia cannot claim all MONGOL EMPIRE LANDS TODAY

Please have common sense.

Also, the ICJ has a proper CRITERIA how to settle HISTORICAL CLAIMS.

The rejection of CHINA to take the issue before the ICJ is a DIRECT ADMISSION that they cannot prove their so called 9 dash claim.

Are you advocating that China should own Vietnam. As a thousand years ago, Vietnam was control by China.

 

[filipino_american]

European Old Maps Support the Philippines' Scarborough and Spratly Islands claim

Old Spanish Maps of the Philippines

1.

2.

Old British Empire Maps Support the Philippines' Claim

1.

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zoomed in version:

The British used the word “PANACOT”, the FILIPINO name of the Scarborough Shoal.

The British named BAJO DE PARAGUA (The Spanish of the Spratlys)“SHELVES OF PARAGO”.

Paragua is the Spanish name of the Island of Palawan

Bajo de Paragua means under Palawan

2.

-1804

3.

- 1828

Old Italian Map Supports the Philippines' Claim

The Italians used the word “PANACOT”, the FILIPINO name of the Scarborough Shoal.

The Italians named BAJO DE PARAGUA (The Spanish of the Spratlys)“LOS BAJOS DE PARAGUA”.

Paragua is the Spanish name of the Island of Palawan

Bajo de Paragua means under Palawan

 

[filipino_american]

European Old Maps Support the Philippines' Scarborough and Spratly Islands claim

French Old Maps

1.

The French used the word “PANACOT”, the FILIPIO name of the Scarborough Shoal.

The French also used the word “BAJO DE PARAGUA”, the Spanish name of the Spratly Islands.

2.

1826 Map – Scarborough and Spratlys part of the Philippines

3.

4.

5.

6.

- Spratlys same color with the Philippines, different color with Vietnam.

7.

- The Islands are of the same color as the Philippines.

8. The French describing the Sultanates of Brunei and Sulu (?) who ruled the Spratlys, Palawan, Most of Mindanao, Sulu, Mindanao, and most of BORNEO.

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Spratly same color with Palawan and Borneo.

 

[filipino_american]

Can you show me a Chinese map specifying that these islands belong to Vietnam?

I just provided you EUROPEAN OLD MAPS that support the Philippines' Claim

Are you advocating that China should own Vietnam. As a thousand years ago, Vietnam was control by China.

Maybe Northern Vietnam but how bout the rest of Vietnam?

The CHAMPA KINGDOM (7th century - 1832)

The kingdom of Champa was a "MALAY" kingdom that controlled what is now central Vietnam from approximately the 7th century through to 1832. They speak Cham, a Malayo-Polynesian language.

The Ancient name of the SOUTH CHINA SEA was the CHAM SEA. Named after the POWERFUL MALAY KINGDOM OF CHAMPA. The Europeans renamed the area SOUTH CHINA SEA just during the European Colonial Era.

The South China Sea was RULED by the OLD MALAYS (ancestors of the Taiwanese Aborigines, Filipinos, Malaysians, Indonesians, and CHAMPA VIETS) from TAIWAN, CENTRAL AND SOUTHERN VIETNAM, to the rest of the MALAY ARCHIPELAGO according to the ARCHAEOLOGISTS, ANTHROPOLOGISTS and HISTORIANS.

World Historians are LAUGHING for SURE AT CHINA'S FIRST DISCOVERY CLAIM

The OLD MALAY people MOVED OUT OF TAIWAN to populate CENTRAL VIETNAM, the Philippines and the rest of the MALAY Archipelago long long time ago before the CHINESE learned sea navigation.

The CHINESE PEOPLE were late comers to the South CHINA SEA.

 

[HongWu]

Pinoys love their colonial masters, always making their claims using colonial maps

 

[Hellraiser007]

Ashoka's reign of the Indian subcontinent is as long as Charlemagne of Europe. If India has always been one country. Then western Europe has always been a country as well by your logic.

Troll post of the day.

Give me some BC evidence??? So for more than two thousand years, who rule the indian continent???

Why not invent some fake history to disapprove the fact, as Chinese always do with their maps.

Can you show me a Chinese map specifying that these islands belong to Vietnam?



Are you advocating that China should own Vietnam. As a thousand years ago, Vietnam was control by China.

Why are you picking up maps of Mongol Yuan empire and trying to grab territories,