China: Abusing history?

[NiceGuy]

haha,why do we have to fight in hot weather?beside now the result of the war will be decided by technology and money(in case of war of attrition,money will decide how long you can be in the race),much less than by sheer number of your army.

And you cannot financially afford to wage any war against Viet Nam too, you still bow down and beg for Japan ODA to survive now

 

[huzihaidao12]

You can not see any China troop in those islands before our troop , so, those islands belong to VietNam .We've defend them for long time already.

If you just passed by a land , and say :' it belong to you ', then maybe American belong to CHina too

Such as the Yuan Dynasty navy, so it belongs to China

 

[beijingwalker]

You can not see any China troop in those islands before our troop , so, those islands belong to VietNam .We've defend them for long time already.

If you just passed by a land , and say :' it belong to you ', then maybe American belong to CHina too

ok,if you say that troops are more of a better argument than first people arriving there and their history.you are talking about war,and considering your size and overal strength,you wont have those islands for long,we can wait and see how will play out in another 10-20 years when China totally secure its world superpower status in every aspect.

 

[beijingwalker]

And you cannot financially afford to wage any war against Viet Nam too, you still bow down and beg for Japan ODA to survive now

can you read at all ,Japan owes China,not the other way around,you really need a history lesson,hah,if China was not generous enough( we also did the same for you vietnanmese in the past),Japan would've gone bankrupt before anything can happen there,they owe us 50$ billion after the end of the war.

 

[NiceGuy]

Such as the Yuan Dynasty navy, so it belongs to China

Yuan Dynasty just passed by too, and when we sent troop to protect, you said Nothing too , so they belong to VN ^^.

ok,if you say that troops are more of a better argument than first people arriving there and their history.you are talking about war,and considering your size and overal strength,you wont have those islands for long,we can wait and see how will play out in another 10-20 years when China totally secure its world superpower status in every aspect.

So how about this 'envident' will you take back America too ??

can you read at all ,Japan owes China,not the other way around,you really needs a history lesson,hah,if China is not generous as we did for you vietnanmese also in the past,Japan would've gone bankrupt before anything can happen there,they owe us 50$ billion after the end of the war

Why don't they owe CHina they life instead ??You means Japan have the right to kill CHinese and pay back by Yen after that ??

 

[huzihaidao12]

Well, if there are enemies, it may need a navy to those islands, but the ancient Chinese have any enemies in those islands? Some time to other Southeast Asian countries even do not have enough sailing skills. Dispatching Navy to defense who in the South China Sea? Only the Yuan Dynasty and Qing Dynasty have this need for historical context, Vietnam's trick is to always catch a ridiculous so-called evidence, but deliberately ignored other evidence, such as written records of ancient China

 

[huzihaidao12]

Yuan Dynasty just passed by too, and when we sent troop to protect, you said Nothing too , so they belong to VN ^^.

So how about this 'envident' will you take back America too ??

Why don't they owe CHina they life instead ??You means Japan have the right to kill CHinese and pay back by Yen after that ??

Oh? Give me a clear Vietnamese official records in that era, otherwise it only shows you steal something when the owners do not pay attention. Only when there is an official record of the Vietnamese Government in the official documents, as a sovereign state, the Ming Dynasty government has no objection to it , then it is a reasonable argument.

 

[beijingwalker]

but anyway thank you for always mentioning China's generostiy to Japan and other countries,It is in our culture.

 

[NiceGuy]

Well, if there are enemies, it may need a navy to those islands, but the ancient Chinese have any enemies in those islands? Some time to other Southeast Asian countries do not have enough sailing skills even not enough seamanship. Dispatching Navy to defense who in the South China Sea? Only the Yuan Dynasty and Qing Dynasty have this need for historical context, Vietnam's trick is to always catch a ridiculous so-called evidence, but deliberately ignored other evidence, such as written records of ancient China

Sorry , records of ancient China also discovered America , and it not belong to CHina now bcz you did protect it continuously

Oh? Give me a clear Vietnamese official records in that era, otherwise it only shows you steal something when the owners do not pay attention. Only when there is an official record of the Vietnamese Government in the official documents, as a sovereign state, the Ming Dynasty government has no objection to it , then it is a reasonable argument.

See the map of our Nguyen Dynasty in 1838, bro

 

[beijingwalker]

come on,stop saying who "dicovered Americas",they have people living there thousands years ago,they found those explorers,who were hungry and lost,not the otherway around.

 

[huzihaidao12]

Sorry , records of ancient China also discovered America , and it not belong to CHina now bcz you did protect it continuously

See the map of our Nguyen Dynasty in 1838, bro

1838? You think it is more ancient evidence than china, you said, the Vietnamese sent troops earlier than YUAN, give me this evidence.

 

[Starblazer]

Sorry , records of ancient China also discovered America , and it not belong to CHina now bcz you did protect it continuously

See the map of our Nguyen Dynasty in 1838, bro

Why is that map in Chinese? Don't you guys speak french?

 

[NiceGuy]

1838? You think it is more ancient evidence than china, you said, the Vietnamese sent troops earlier than YUAN, give me this evidence.

We sent troop to protect those island in 1838 too, and we saw No CHinese troop there.

Why is that map in Chinese? Don't you guys speak french?

French started invaded VN in 1858.We used CHinese before that.

 

[huzihaidao12]

Yuan Dynasty just passed by too, and when we sent troop to protect, you said Nothing too , so they belong to VN ^^.

It was "discovered" that there is no claim to sovereignty. The South China Sea is completely different, because the Chinese Tang dynasty, there is a formal record of the sovereign, not "discovered" that if you want to compare the "discovery", HAN has found recorded in the South China Sea, but still there is no "sovereignty" recorded in the HAN. If you just say HAN, I agree with it.

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We sent troop to protect those island in 1838 too, and we saw No CHinese troop there.

French invade VN in 1858.We used CHinese before that.

Do you think if there have a empty house, you occupy it, it is yours? Even if the owner was not at home? If this is Vietnam's logic, no problem , we can use it, as long as the occupation, it belongs to me, right ?

 

[Starblazer]

We sent troop to protect those island in 1838 too, and we saw No CHinese troop there.

French started invaded VN in 1858.We used CHinese before that.

Or maybe Chinese made that map, it's possible, theres a bunch of old maps made by Chinese sailors of that area.