Chief of Naval Staff Discloses New Procurements: Shallow Water Attack Submarines, MALE UAVs & a new Helicopter Fleet

[Bilal Khan (Quwa)]

Why not Z18 or Z20 navel version sir?

Not yet on China's export catalog.

 

[GriffinsRule]

Not yet on China's export catalog.

Also still too new and naval untested in marine environment.
I also doubt French could scuttle the NH90 on their own entirely as they will also be under pressure from other program members. But it is possible. Good thing is NH90 has a folding tail boom and could potentially be used for shipborne ASW functions.
AW159 is a riskier option as it would be a one off since ASW variants don't exist. And with AW101, it does not carry any anti-ship missiles, just a torpedo.
Interesting options and pro & cons to deal with.

 

[syed_yusuf]

In my opinion z20 is the only option for pn that carries mist bang for a buck. If PN shows interest china can open this option up.

 

[khanasifm]

In my opinion z20 is the only option for pn that carries mist bang for a buck. If PN shows interest china can open this option up.

Z20 if based on uh-60 than is 8-10 ton class helo vs z9 which is 4 ton and usually onboard ships and frigates.

In pn only tanker can carry heli of 8-10 ton class like sea king or z20

z18 and z20 are both heavy duty and mostly z9 will go onboard ships not sure about 054a of they can carry 8-10 ton class heli

Z 20 helicopter specifications
Specifications (estimated)
Length: 65 ft 7 in (20 m) (approx.) Height: 17 ft 5 in (5.3 m) (approx.) Empty weight: 11,023 lb (5,000 kg) (approx.) Max takeoff weight: 22,046 lb (10,000 kg) (approx.)

Specifications (Z-9B) Crew: 1 or 2 pilots. Capacity: 10 passengers or 1,900 kg (4,189 lb) payload internal, 1,600 kg (3,527 lb) payload slung. Length: 12.11 m (39 ft 9 in) Height: 4.01 m (13 ft 2 in) Empty weight: 2,050 kg (4,519 lb) Max takeoff weight: 4,100 kg (9,039 lb)


Specifications (Z-18F)Edit
General characteristics

• Max takeoff weight: 13,800 kg (30,360 lb)
• Powerplant: 3 × WZ-6C turboshafts

Armament

• Up to 4 Yu-7 ASW torpedoes or YJ-9anti-ship missiles[4]
• Up to 32 sonobuoys

 

[khanasifm]

Z20 if based on uh-60 than is 8-10 ton class helo vs z9 which is 4 ton and usually onboard ships and frigates.

In pn only tanker can carry heli of 8-10 ton class like sea king or z20

z18 and z20 are both heavy duty and mostly z9 will go onboard ships not sure about 054a of they can carry 8-10 ton class heli

Z 20 helicopter specifications
Specifications (estimated)
Length: 65 ft 7 in (20 m) (approx.) Height: 17 ft 5 in (5.3 m) (approx.) Empty weight: 11,023 lb (5,000 kg) (approx.) Max takeoff weight: 22,046 lb (10,000 kg) (approx.)

Specifications (Z-9B) Crew: 1 or 2 pilots. Capacity: 10 passengers or 1,900 kg (4,189 lb) payload internal, 1,600 kg (3,527 lb) payload slung. Length: 12.11 m (39 ft 9 in) Height: 4.01 m (13 ft 2 in) Empty weight: 2,050 kg (4,519 lb) Max takeoff weight: 4,100 kg (9,039 lb)


Specifications (Z-18F)Edit
General characteristics

• Max takeoff weight: 13,800 kg (30,360 lb)
• Powerplant: 3 × WZ-6C turboshafts

Armament

• Up to 4 Yu-7 ASW torpedoes or YJ-9anti-ship missiles[4]
• Up to 32 sonobuoys

 

[Itachi]

Just think of a Naval version of this.....man, that would be so awesome. Total stealth. More capacity, more range....more speed!!

 

[Tipu7]

Type 54A/P and Milgum, both can support 10 Ton cetagory helicopter.

Z20 if based on uh-60 than is 8-10 ton class helo vs z9 which is 4 ton and usually onboard ships and frigates.

In pn only tanker can carry heli of 8-10 ton class like sea king or z20

z18 and z20 are both heavy duty and mostly z9 will go onboard ships not sure about 054a of they can carry 8-10 ton class heli

Z 20 helicopter specifications
Specifications (estimated)
Length: 65 ft 7 in (20 m) (approx.) Height: 17 ft 5 in (5.3 m) (approx.) Empty weight: 11,023 lb (5,000 kg) (approx.) Max takeoff weight: 22,046 lb (10,000 kg) (approx.)

Specifications (Z-9B) Crew: 1 or 2 pilots. Capacity: 10 passengers or 1,900 kg (4,189 lb) payload internal, 1,600 kg (3,527 lb) payload slung. Length: 12.11 m (39 ft 9 in) Height: 4.01 m (13 ft 2 in) Empty weight: 2,050 kg (4,519 lb) Max takeoff weight: 4,100 kg (9,039 lb)


Specifications (Z-18F)Edit
General characteristics

• Max takeoff weight: 13,800 kg (30,360 lb)
• Powerplant: 3 × WZ-6C turboshafts

Armament

• Up to 4 Yu-7 ASW torpedoes or YJ-9anti-ship missiles[4]
• Up to 32 sonobuoys

 

[khanasifm]

Type 54A/P and Milgum, both can support 10 Ton cetagory helicopter.

Yes looks like Chinese are using 10 plus ton Russin ka-27 on theirs

 

[RealNapster]

A "naval check post" version of Aksungur is offered along with AI driven indigenous anti-sub/ship weapons, radars and sensor systems coupled with SAT-based communications systems...
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Btw how much is this drone worth. ?

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

Btw how much is this drone worth. ?

Don't know bro!!! They're at the advanced field testing level now to be inducted by the end of this year by the Turkish forces....

Since they use all indigenous components - engine, radars, imaging, sensors, armaments etc. - it all depends....

 

[khanasifm]

404 - TUSAS

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www.tusas.com

 

[sparten]

Coastal submarines will probably be deployed to the Persian Gulf.

 

[sparten]

We will have
4 ZulfIqar Class
6 Type 054
4 Jinnah Class
4 Milgem
2-6 multi-mission large "corvettes"
A new as yet unspecified frigate class with be entering service, plans for 6 of these.
That's a pretty big *** surface fleet, two dozen or so primary surface combatants not and that is seperatr including the coastal defence assets
The USN for compariosn has something like 100 surface combatants so this is a pretty substantial surfac fleet.

8 Hangor class submarines
An unknown number of coastal subs.

Not counting potential SSBN based.

 

[arjunk]

India has:
1 aircraft carrier
1 amphibious transport dock
8 Landing ship tanks
10 destroyers
13 frigates,
1 nuclear-powered attack submarine
2 Nuclear-powered ballistic missile submarine
15 conventionally powered attack submarines
23 corvettes
7 Landing Craft Utility
10 large offshore patrol vessels
4 fleet tankers

So we have some catching up to do.

 

[Yasser76]

India has:
1 aircraft carrier
1 amphibious transport dock
8 Landing ship tanks
10 destroyers
13 frigates,
1 nuclear-powered attack submarine
2 Nuclear-powered ballistic missile submarine
15 conventionally powered attack submarines
23 corvettes
7 Landing Craft Utility
10 large offshore patrol vessels
4 fleet tankers

So we have some catching up to do.

I think a 2:1 ration with India is more then enough in all honesty, we are lucky our coastline is small and we have massive Chinese help.

We will have
4 ZulfIqar Class
6 Type 054
4 Jinnah Class
4 Milgem
2-6 multi-mission large "corvettes"
A new as yet unspecified frigate class with be entering service, plans for 6 of these.
That's a pretty big *** surface fleet, two dozen or so primary surface combatants not and that is seperatr including the coastal defence assets
The USN for compariosn has something like 100 surface combatants so this is a pretty substantial surfac fleet.

8 Hangor class submarines
An unknown number of coastal subs.

Not counting potential SSBN based.

You may also want to count Agosta 90B replacement, these will be seperate from Hangor and could well be Turkish MILDEM