Chengdu J-10 Multirole Fighter Air Craft News & Discussions

[Imran Khan]

same old news waqas bro .

 

[Imran Khan]

I am really feeling sad , its disgusting to get old technology. no place for j-10A.................

i don't any such reason bro j-10b need some time and sure we will get them

 

[abaseen99]

 

[Arsalan]

why are people so looking down on j10a ? it has range and payload , plus can be upgraded e aesa radar


j10a is not that obsolete as you might think..
http://www.defence.pk/forums/military-aviation/3218-j-10-fc-20-mrca-418.html#post1957879

well there is no point in getting a new platform with an intention to get it upgraded with AESA straight away., this does not make any sense.
apart from the AESA, the J-10B also have an IRST, better design for improved RCS, better EW suite and sensors and DSI etc.

anyways, there is no point comparing the two for PAF since the issue has been cleard and PAF will be getting the J-10B.
this will be our true answer to MKI and MMRCA. will be nicely supported by the 36 F-16 Blk-52 and JFT as well.

 

[Manticore]

^ i know somewhat of the differences between the 2 j10 fighters --- this is my video

however i was pointing out , other than the blk52 , we dont have any other comparable fighters in its payload category -- and avionics can be updated anyway

 

[houshanghai]

new pic

 

[Xracer]

YARO can anyone Compare J10bs with Sukhoi Su-30MKI and Dassault Rafale PLzzzzzzzzzzz

 

[abaseen99]

????-???-?????????10B???? j 10 b test fly

 

[abaseen99]

 

[abaseen99]

 

[krash]

new pic

Whats up with the PLAAF and black (or very dark) radomes? The bird looked allot sexier with the grey radome. Plus, as was the case with the earlier F-16s, these dark radomes will make the bird easier to spot from a distance.

 

[pshamim]

Notice the fixed probe

 

[SBD-3]

Notice the fixed probe

Nose appears to be smaller than J-10A, I cant see AoA prob though, and the somebody mentioned JHMCS kind of HMD, it looks like TK series helmet in the pic.....

 

[pshamim]

Here is an article from Chinesemil. security blog. It provides details on several deals between Pakistan and China. What is really interesting that it mentions that Pakistan was interested in FC-20, an export version of J-10B and also about the 6 AIP submarinesI t That is one of the reasons that Pakistanis were so enthusiastic about J-10B development. This article clears up few things but I am not sure if it will able to convince some who do not want to believe and consider personal opinions as facts.
I do not know where to post it since article covers all aspects of the military cooperation. Mods may delete and post it where appropriate.


Wholesale defence Deals-Pakistan And China from Chinesemil.blog

Pakistan has looked towards its traditional ally after being bashed by the United States for its defense needs in 1965 and Pak-China defense & economic relationship never looked back. Current visit of the Pakistani Minister was a great success by all means as Pakistan was able to not only pursue China to stand by it in these difficult times but also agreed on number of pending defense deals.

Gawadar Port:

China has agreed to take over the operations of Gawadar Port in Pakistan at the request of the federal government after the

agreement with the Singapore Port Authority expires. Pakistani Defense Minister, Chaudhry Ahmad Mukhtar has announced in front of local media that Pakistan asked for Chinese in number of fields and China was immediately ready to help Pakistan in any way possible.

Type 054A Jiangkai-II Stealth Frigateakistani Defense Minister, Chaudhry Ahmad Mukhtar has said that China has also agreed to provide loan for the purchase of the Chinese 4400 ton frigate. This agreement will clear the financial problems of the Pakistan Navy and it will be able to purchase new generation stealth Type 054A Jiangkai II Multi-Role frigate which is equipped with the HQ-16 Medium-Range Air Defence Missiles.

Chinese HQ-16 Surface to Air missile have range of over 50 kilometers launched from 32 vertical launch system (VLS) and is far more superior then the FM-90N surface-to-air missile (SAM) used on the F-22P Zulfiquar class frigate. Frigate will also use 8 C-802A or C-803 antiship missiles which have range in excess of 180km. Type 054A Jiangkai II frigate is designed with stealth features, including sloped hull design, radar.

Submarines:

Pakistan and China has also agreed to provide training to the personal of the Pakistan Navy on the Chinese submarines. Pakistani and China has already agreed earlier this year to jointly development and co-production of diesel electric submarines fitted with the Air Independent Propulsion to meet Pakistan Navy’s long standing requirement of six new generation of submarines.

Unconfirmed news from Indian sources also suggest that Pakistan and China has also discussed the possibility of leasing a Chinese nuclear powered attack submarine SSN to Pakistan Navy for limited time period.

Pakistan Navy has shown interest in leasing of SSN after the Indian leasing of SSN from Russia and construction of nuclear powered submarine armed with submarine launched ballistic missiles with Russian help.

New Naval Base:

Pakistani defence minister has also said that Pakistan has requested China to construct a naval base for Pakistan at the site of Gawader. This would be the third main naval base for the Pakistan navy.

JF-17 Thunders:

Prime Minister Yusuf Raza Gilani has also asked Chinese counterpart to pursue PLAAF (Peoples Liberation Army Air Force) to induct JF-17 Thunder fighter jets in their air fleet. He said that this will bring lot of publicity for JF-17 Thunder which will be good for exports and further decrease the cost.

Pakistan and China has also agreed on the co-production of second batch of the JF-17 thunder aircraft for the Pakistan air force with advance avionics.

FC-20 Fighter Jets:

Pakistani Defense Minister, Chaudhry Ahmad Mukhtar has confirmed that Chinese friends have agreed to the Pakistani request to provide FC-20 fighter jet to the Pakistan Air Force.

FC-20 is an export version of the Chinese J-10B is a multirole fighter jet which was developed by the Chengdu Aircraft Industry Corporation (CAC) for the People’s Liberation Army Air Force (PLAAF). J-10B was first time promoted to the Pakistan in 2006 during the visit of then President of Pakistan, Pervez Musharraf who was allowed to sit in the cockpit of J-10B. This made him the first foreign head of state to see the aircraft even before its existence was officially recognized.

On 12 April 2006 the Pakistani federal cabinet allowed Pakistan Air Force (PAF) to start negotiations for the initial purchase of 36 J-10Bs under designations of FC-20. Since then Pakistan Air Force has requested our Chinese friends to develop an improved version to meet the Pakistani requirements of high end front line fighter jet.

In 2009, Air Chief Marshal Tanvir Mehmood Ahmed, then Chief of the Air Staff of the PAF confirmed the Pakistani interest in purchase of atlease two squadrons of FC-20 in initial phase.He also said Islamabad had asked Beijing to convey a message to Washington that “our sovereignty be respected”.

The Chinese government “assured us of help in removing hurdles in the way of Pakistan’s progress”, the Defence Minister said.


Whole Sale Defence Deals: Pakistan And China from chinesemil.blogspot.com | The China Military Security and Intelligence Blog

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[Arsalan]

^ i know somewhat of the differences between the 2 j10 fighters --- this is my video

however i was pointing out , other than the blk52 , we dont have any other comparable fighters in its payload category -- and avionics can be updated anyway

i dont mean to say that you dont know the difference.
my point is that although the J-10A will be equally good as the F-16z but the upgraded J-10B is a true counter weight to MMRCA!

well i have read most of your posts regarding the J-10B i and i bet you know more then i do and also i have understood your point!

anyways, its not an issue anymore with PAF being reported to go for J-10B!