Chengdu J-10 Multirole Fighter Air Craft News & Discussions

[Beast]

In J10B and J10 C has the load capacity increased or is it same as J10A..??

It shall have increased load capacity, DSI increased air flow, reduced weight and possible with 3D manufacturing which further reduced structure weight and used of more composite that helps more.

 

[Deino]

Reportedly J-10C no. 242

 

[ZedZeeshan]

It shall have increased load capacity, DSI increased air flow, reduced weight and possible with 3D manufacturing which further reduced structure weight and used of more composite that helps more.

So it means EW suits, Radar, and sensors will be same as J10B...??right???

 

[Daniel808]

Reportedly J-10C no. 242

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No.242.
Is that mean, 42 Unit Chengdu J-10C already Produced so far?

 

[Malik Alashter]

What's the differences between the B and the C variants?.

 

[Deino]

No.242.
Is that mean, 42 Unit Chengdu J-10C already Produced so far?

Yes ... The first 2 denotes the batch - here is batch 2 = J-10C - and 42 is the individual number.

What's the differences between the B and the C variants?.

Most of all the avionics around the New AESA radar.

 

[Deino]

Reportedly J-10C no. 242

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I did a rough calculation ... with now confirmed 55 J-10B and - if 2-42 is the most recent one - 42 J-10C being build ... so these are now 97 second generation J-10s.

Concerning their operational units ...

J-10B:
- 170. Brigade FTTC with 78x1x serials (confirmed) ... max 7 aircraft (?)
- 2. Division with 10x3x serials (confirmed) ... 24 aircraft (?)
- 19. Division with 30x0x serials (most likely) ... 24 aircraft (?)
= 55 aircraft (would fit to all Batch 01)

J-10C:
- 44. Division with 50x5x serials (most likely) ... 24 aircraft (?)
= 24 aircraft + 18 so far not assigned maybe !?

Or did I miss anything?

Deino

 

[j20blackdragon]

I did a rough calculation ... with now confirmed 55 J-10B and - if 2-42 is the most recent one - 42 J-10C being build ... so these are now 97 second generation J-10s.

Concerning their operational units ...

J-10B:
- 170. Brigade FTTC with 78x1x serials (confirmed) ... max 7 aircraft (?)
- 2. Division with 10x3x serials (confirmed) ... 24 aircraft (?)
- 19. Division with 30x0x serials (most likely) ... 24 aircraft (?)
= 55 aircraft (would fit to all Batch 01)

J-10C:
- 44. Division with 50x5x serials (most likely) ... 24 aircraft (?)
= 24 aircraft + 18 so far not assigned maybe !?

Or did I miss anything?

Deino

I'm more interested in the engine calculations.

123 AL-31FN Series 3 were purchased in 2011.

~ 90+ engines used for second generation J-10s.

~ 24 engines used for J-20.

How many engines can possibly be left?

Furthermore, how can J-20 and J-10C/D production possibly continue without further engine sales from Russia...unless something else is happening?

 

[cirr]

Three J-10Cs with code numbers 245-247

 

[Deino]

Three J-10Cs with code numbers 245-247

Fine ... if batch 02 is as large as batch 01 (with 55´birds) then they are close to batch 03 !

 

[j20blackdragon]

Approximate AL-31FN Series 3 count:

53 J-10B
45 J-10C
24 J-20

122 engines used up.



If we continue to see aircraft coming out using the AL-31FN Series 3, that means:

1. Russia and China are no longer reporting any news regarding engine deals between Salut and CAC for some reason.

2. China has received licensed production of the engine.

3. China has reversed engineered the engine.

It's one of these options.

 

[grey boy 2]

 

[Deino]

Approximate AL-31FN Series 3 count:

53 J-10B
45 J-10C
24 J-20

122 engines used up.



If we continue to see aircraft coming out using the AL-31FN Series 3, that means:

1. Russia and China are no longer reporting any news regarding engine deals between Salut and CAC for some reason.

2. China has received licensed production of the engine.

3. China has reversed engineered the engine.

It's one of these options.

That's indeed an interesting argument since indeed besiedes the prototypes we have now confirmed 55 J-10B (= batch 01) and now at least 47 J-10C (= batch 02) making 102 J-10B/C.

However I don't think that there are already 12 J-20s ?? ... anyway if indeed "only" 122 AL-31FN were confirmed there could also be a fourth option:

The engines for the J-20s are from another - still secret - contract of unknown size similar to the first long-secret purchase for the first J-10s.

Deino

PS: ... and with now more than 100 J-10B/C the next question is: where are they all ??? This number is enough for 4 fully equipped regiments !??

Deino

 

[ZedZeeshan]

Can somebody tells me the difference between J10B and J10C...!!

 

[Beast]

Can somebody tells me the difference between J10B and J10C...!!

AESA radar ,more superior EW suite and domestic engine with higher thrust. I believe J-10B variant has been abandon and all convert to J-10C