Changing Dynamics of Air Warfare in South Asia

[Trango Towers]

Wow retard. You want to come personal at me and comment on what I will do as a person or not and whether I carry a pair or not just because you are dumb and you want to send my country into dumb errands to satisfy your keyboard warrior bullshit?

Grow yourself a brain before telling me what to grow bitch. And try to use that brain to talk logic in an argument instead of talking personal while you have zero clue on what and who you are talking to.

And as for being what kind of man, dumb idiots like you will have my country go create a war and then run to their momma because all you excel at is talking shit, dressing funny and speaking tough "on the Internet", while having zero clue on what gets put at stake and how many countries in the world are eagerly waiting for Pakistan to some how get landed in a war with India as the final phase of the war they have been waging for over a decade.

There is a reason these decisions are made by people with knowledge, and not little dumb chicks like you who think they know shit just because they sit on a forum.


Did your little low IQ brain ever tell you india came to bomb you that day just so they can create a war with you when you go bomb them in return?
Or by doing what they did to Kashmir to invite you for a war? Or what they are going to do now?

Having no clue and then lacking logic, and going personal is your way out for having no logical reasoning @ dumb shit?

Oh dear...spot the idot...I didnt bother to read after the first line. Welcome to ignore. Coward

 

[Goenitz]

but the missile coming from nowhere and exploding in the vicinity resulted in complete panic amongst the IAF aircraft

was that exploded due to chaff or decoy etc... and we didn't score a hit.. if that, then why IAF is hiding? is that some secret system? @Windjammer

 

[Arsalan 345]

two fighter jets shot down on 27.i think we are slowly accepting that we missed the target which is su-30 so where is the other jet? at least one f-16 was trying to find a firing solution on wingman of abhinandan but what happened next is unclear.su-30 probably dived and saved itself.this is possible but we didn't hear anything about wingman of abhinandan.is he dead and where is his plane? iaf hiding many facts.this article shows that we probably missed the su-30 but question is why only one amraam fired towards su-30? situation supported us so at least two missiles should have been fired.our operation put more pressure on us because we can't forget 28 feb.there was high chances of all out attack on feb 28 so events like feb 26 and 27 are eye opener.

 

[Windjammer]

was that exploded due to chaff or decoy etc... and we didn't score a hit.. if that, then why IAF is hiding? is that some secret system? @Windjammer

Had they been chaff or flares or any other decoy then it means they were expecting an attack and shouldn't have caused a panic....i understand the panic was caused when the missile out of the blue exploded on it's intended target.....causing panic and disarray among the IAF formation.

 

[Ali_Baba]

two fighter jets shot down on 27.i think we are slowly accepting that we missed the target which is su-30 so where is the other jet?

You maybe accepting that, no one else is. Kaiser Tufail is saying he does not know, and nor should we expect him to know. PAF has verified the Su30MKI kill via multiple sources and satisfied to themselves it was a kill to the point they have built monuments, given awards. They are 100% of the kill. They of course did not see the point of sharing their evidence with Kaiser Tufail( why should they ? ) or seek his validation so that he can write articles of his views with PAFs blessing..

IAF has not gone to the same degree on their claim, a generic award to Abhi but nothing more than that.. because as we all know, there was no F16s shot down.....

Please don't create confusion where there is none!

 

[TNT]

No no, kill 8 aircraft, capture most of those pilots or show their dead bodies and I'm pretty sure the indian public will want to celebrate Diwali with you?

What world do you live in? Try blowing up 10 helicopters or jets or whatever if the Afghans if they have any and even they will be forced to declare war on you from public pressure and humiliation in the world community.

Some people are the Pakistani version of RSS followers. The good point this article mentions is the management of the escalation ladder. We need to make sure there is no big war while at the same time respond effectively to any such misadventures by india. God forbid had the indian strikes killed hundreds of kids, the scenario would have been different. Allah saved us from war, but we need to plan for such scenarios for the future and evaluate our response. Maybe find a way to effectively respond while managing the escalation ladder.

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

Kavgada yumrukler sayilmaz - during a fist fight the number of blows can't be counted....

IMO Pak should have gone for 8 out of 9 locks to make the message even more clearer....

It doesn't matter whether a virgin girl is married for a night or for a decade....

 

[War Thunder]

Oh dear...spot the idot...I didnt bother to read after the first line. Welcome to ignore. Coward

Says the joker whose got less likes than the posts he has made. Speaks for your so called intellectual prowess.

 

[aliyusuf]

IMO Pak should have gone for 8 out of 9 locks to make the message even more clearer

The message was driven home with those two kills. The IAF and the Indian establishment were shaken by the outcome. Compounded by the near strikes on Indian installations and severe beating handed across the LOC.

But they were intentionally given opportunity to save face, because otherwise they wouldn't have had any choice but to resort to a massive retaliation and eventually full scale war ... to avoid the humiliation at home just before elections.

It was not a question of who would inflicted more loss to whom. Pakistan's weak economy didn't allow it for engaging in a prolonged conflict with anyone.

 

[crankthatskunk]

Yeah except landing us into a full fledged war of missiles raining down our targets right?
How easy is it to make judgments sitting on your keyboard?

Yup, you got it right. Except that next time IA and IAF would look at their shortcomings, iron out the issues and attack us again with greater force.
In such scenario key board warriors like you would blame PA and PAF for incapable of dealing with the threats.
But still professing constraints.
Get the fcuk out of your defeatist, cowardice mentality man. Indians can only be deal with the force nothing else.
IF you have not learn that in 72 years, you are never going to learn that, period.

 

[Imran Khan]

Why we did not used sams on 26

 

[aliyusuf]

The message was driven home with those two kills. The IAF and the Indian establishment were shaken by the outcome. Compounded by the near strikes on Indian installations and severe beating handed across the LOC.

But they were intentionally given opportunity to save face, because otherwise they wouldn't have had any choice but to resort to a massive retaliation and eventually full scale war ... to avoid the humiliation at home just before elections.

It was not a question of who would inflicted more loss to whom. Pakistan's weak economy didn't allow it for engaging in a prolonged conflict with anyone.

@Hakikat ve Hikmet
The point I tried to make is that why go looking for a war? When you know you cannot finish it with any confidence over the outcome? Why not buy time for now and keep preparing to fight it at our advantage.

 

[War Thunder]

Yup, you got it right. Except that next time IA and IAF would look at their shortcomings, iron out the issues and attack us again with greater force.
In such scenario key board warriors like you would blame PA and PAF for incapable of dealing with the threats.
But still professing constraints.
Get the fcuk out of your defeatist, cowardice mentality man. Indians can only be deal with the force nothing else.
IF you have not learn that in 72 years, you are never going to learn that, period.

Yeah yeah any one who doesn't get along with your keyboard warrior bullshit must be a coward. Because little dumb chicks like you will go out and fight the war for us right?
Sitting on your fat *** and lecturing people on military strat?

Did it ever occur to your dumb brain that enemies learn lesson out of any confrontation?
Regardless of whether you shot 2 or 10 of their aircraft. They would still have learnt the same lessons and both replenished and fixed their gaps?

And what exactly makes you think you had such an upper hand in the combat that you could actually take out 10 of their aircraft? Because ISPR told you so?
And what will be your plan mr dumb RSS wanna be when India actually invaded Pakistan right after? How will your country that is surviving on aid by others will survive in that war? What will happen if sanctions were put on you?

Little dumb fucks like you having no clue and jumping up and down for a war while thinking they can deal with indians with the force.

What happened when you launched operation Gibraltar with the same thinking or Kargil?
I am pretty sure we have rescued the whole of Kashmir and Himachal by now right?

Being dumb is fine, but trying to expect your armed forces to be dumb like you is different. Keep your dumb ideas to yourself and let those who know what they are doing, do what they do best.
While you can only take a piss and keep spewing shit thinking you know some shit about war.

 

[Arsalan 345]

You maybe accepting that, no one else is. Kaiser Tufail is saying he does not know, and nor should we expect him to know. PAF has verified the Su30MKI kill via multiple sources and satisfied to themselves it was a kill to the point they have built monuments, given awards. They are 100% of the kill. They of course did not see the point of sharing their evidence with Kaiser Tufail( why should they ? ) or seek his validation so that he can write articles of his views with PAFs blessing..

IAF has not gone to the same degree on their claim, a generic award to Abhi but nothing more than that.. because as we all know, there was no F16s shot down.....

Please don't create confusion where there is none!

it's great if we hit them.

 

[AbuzarIlyas]

Now that the Indian Muslims have come to the reality of being like "dead men walking" with a "nothing to lose" mindset, the PAF needs to be at the top its game!!! Hindutva will try to vent the pressure out at any cost, but PAF needs to tighten the lid!!! Sheyatin and their cohorts are never in short of tricks and cunningness, but always (historically provem) lose in the arena of Sabr and Shukr!!! They'll act in haste, but lose the way all of their previous stalwarts - Nemrut, Firaun, Ebu Jahil, Ebu Lehap, Marathas etc. - have lost....

Kardeş! The Muslims of Pakistan have learnt from the mistakes of Osmanlı Sultanları which they had committed by not investing enough in modern military technologies. We are updating our certain weapons continuously to deter any force which pose us the existential threats. For example, we are practicing time and again to target the aircraft carriers and swarm of enemy aircrafts. We have prepared ourselves to cook thousands of advancing enemy soldiers in the middle of their journey.

Pakistan can never compromise on its existence and our preparation on 27th Feb was visible to the major powers of the world. The AM Mujahid is a true mujahid and one of my favorite generals in the history of Pakistani Armed Forces.

We have several soul shaking stories in our very short 70 years history and our takeoff is just about to start. Our ancestors were unable to help the ottomans against foreign pressures but PAF already proved its mettle against illegal child of the West. All the maps made by CIA about 2012 and bla bla have already been failed and we are going to surprise them again and again.