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The chances of India and China going to a war are “very very little” as 8,000 years of statecraft is good enough to take care of that problem, National Security Advisor (NSA) Shivshankar Menon said here today.

“I think very very very little. I assume 8,000 years of statecraft is good enough to take care of that problem,” he said while replying to a question at a security conference organised by the ASPEN Institute here.

Menon was asked what are the chances of India and China going to war in another 30 years.

Referring to the recently-started maritime security dialogue between India and China, Menon said this indicates the growing understanding between them.

Asked whether India is alarmed by Chinese naval power, Menon said: “Let me tell you, we started a maritime security dialogue with China last year. I think that is the answer.”

The NSA also said all the nations in Western Pacific have an interest in keeping the sea lanes open and accessible to trade.

“From Suez to Western Pacific, China, India and Japan, we all have an interest in contributing and making sure that the sea lanes remain open,” he said.

Addressing the gathering on the issue of growing concerns over security, he said all the nations are faced with the challenge of growing security expectations but declining ability to meet them.

“We are in the age of heightened expectations… Previous generation took the security for granted. Today, we even expect government to fix weather… You have rising expectations and much broader definition of security (but) the ability of traditional provider of security i.e. state, to meet this is declining,” he said.

Menon underlined that even climate change is now considered as an important aspect of international peace and security.

“A few years ago, a resolution was introduced (in the UN) saying that climate change is the threat to international peace and security. It is and it will change our security calculus. But whether the Security Council could do anything about it, I have my doubts,” he said.

He advocated new partnerships between nations and governments to address the rising concerns of security.

“I think the only way of answering this and ensuring this is finding new partnerships between countries, between governments and businesses and civil societies, otherwise there is no way we are going to be able to meet these challenges,” Menon said.

He exhorted emerging economies to take lead in the process.

“To my mind the emerging economies need to take the lead in this because they are potentially the most affected by a resource constraint,” he said.

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Theres nothing less or more.... Its about situation.... Wars been faught since universe was created.... Wars will be fought in future.... Question is not will.... Its when.... Better prepare for it so when the time comes a country should be ready....
 
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In the modern era, large countries do not go to war with each other.

In the past few decades it has always been a large country vs a small country, like America vs. Vietnam or Afghanistan.

The bigger countries realize that it is not economically or militarily viable to fight each other without sustaining excessive losses.

Nowadays, conflicts between larger countries are always "indirect", such as with economy and proxies.
 
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Theres nothing less or more.... Its about situation.... Wars been faught since universe was created.... Wars will be fought in future.... Question is not will.... Its when.... Better prepare for it so when the time comes a country should be ready....

Dude have you joined reptilians? you are emitting lot of negative energies these days
 
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War is the last resort for states who prioritize social security over national security. Both, India & China's main concern is economy & development... & wars can always be fought once you have achieved your main priority.
 
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War is the last resort for states who prioritize social security over national security. Both, India & China's main concern is economy & development... & wars can always be fought once you have achieved your main priority.
well bhai dont want to get off topic but we have been saying it for long but security of a state cannot be taken for granted and maybe we learened it the hard way when Nehru and krishna mennon used to take every thing for granted and even thought china will safe gaurd there eastern frontiers lolzzz

any way chinese are a hard working and smart nation and that can be seen all across the globe but here in PDF there is a genral beleave amongst the followers of zaid hamid and hamid gull that china will fight india to safegaurd pakistan which to me is so so hillarious they dont understand thet in international politicks its the self interest of the nations that is most imp not the friendship or enemity towards a common adversirry ...but they cant help dream about such sceanario thats the same they once thought about there freinds not masters aswell what turned owt is a totalli diff. matter

it is in chinas greatest interest that south asia remains a peacfull place for buisness and it knos india is helping that to a great extend but some of its friends are trying ,,,khair jane do i hope u got what i was trying to say SIR JI
 
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Better to concentrate on development rather than bloodshed.

The border is stable and peaceful already, we should aim to maintain that.

The recent developments are really appreciable....both countries are handling things in a matured manner. With trust building and better cooperation both Asian giants together can dethrone the west.
 
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Being 100% prepared and armed to defend yourself is a national responsibility for any country.

But it is also a national responsibility to do everything you can to avoid a war.

In a way it is like martial arts. You spend your whole life training to fight, but the number 1 rule is to avoid a fight in the first place.
 
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Being 100% prepared and armed to defend yourself is a national responsibility for any country.

But it is also a national responsibility to do everything you can to avoid a war.

In a way it is like martial arts. You spend your whole life training to fight, but the number 1 rule is to avoid a fight in the first place.

So true.. As Salvor Hardin will say a few centuries into the future

"Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent"
 
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The chances of India and China going to a war are “very very little” as 8,000 years of statecraft is good enough to take care of that problem, National Security Advisor (NSA) Shivshankar Menon said here today.

“I think very very very little. I assume 8,000 years of statecraft is good enough to take care of that problem,” he said while replying to a question at a security conference organised by the ASPEN Institute here.

Menon was asked what are the chances of India and China going to war in another 30 years.

Referring to the recently-started maritime security dialogue between India and China, Menon said this indicates the growing understanding between them.

Asked whether India is alarmed by Chinese naval power, Menon said: “Let me tell you, we started a maritime security dialogue with China last year. I think that is the answer.”

The NSA also said all the nations in Western Pacific have an interest in keeping the sea lanes open and accessible to trade.

“From Suez to Western Pacific, China, India and Japan, we all have an interest in contributing and making sure that the sea lanes remain open,” he said.

Addressing the gathering on the issue of growing concerns over security, he said all the nations are faced with the challenge of growing security expectations but declining ability to meet them.

“We are in the age of heightened expectations… Previous generation took the security for granted. Today, we even expect government to fix weather… You have rising expectations and much broader definition of security (but) the ability of traditional provider of security i.e. state, to meet this is declining,” he said.

Menon underlined that even climate change is now considered as an important aspect of international peace and security.

“A few years ago, a resolution was introduced (in the UN) saying that climate change is the threat to international peace and security. It is and it will change our security calculus. But whether the Security Council could do anything about it, I have my doubts,” he said.

He advocated new partnerships between nations and governments to address the rising concerns of security.

“I think the only way of answering this and ensuring this is finding new partnerships between countries, between governments and businesses and civil societies, otherwise there is no way we are going to be able to meet these challenges,” Menon said.

He exhorted emerging economies to take lead in the process.

“To my mind the emerging economies need to take the lead in this because they are potentially the most affected by a resource constraint,” he said.

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The recent developments are really appreciable....both countries are handling things in a matured manner. With trust building and better cooperation both Asian giants together can dethrone the west.

It is just logic.

The only ones who benefit from a Sino-Indian War are the West, since China and India are the only two Asian economies that could surpass the GDP of the USA.

My countrymen are more valuable than that, more valuable than to die as a pawn of some Western attempt at maintaining hegemony.
 
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Maintaining peace does not mean we are giving up our land known as Zangnan which is illegally occupied by the indians
Maintaining peace does not mean we are allowing the indian government to harbour Tibetan separatists in india and allow these people to set up a school training trouble makers there!
 
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Maintaining peace does not mean we are giving up our land known as Zangnan which is illegally occupied by the indians
Maintaining peace does not means we are allowing the indian government to harbour Tibetan separatists in india and allow these people to set up a school training trouble makers there!

Maintaining peace does also not mean that you make false allegations against us.
 
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