Chabahar Port: US gives ‘written’ assurance to India facilitating banks to fund $85 mn equipment pur

[Ritual]

Why does Iran even need India to hold its hand on Chabahar? Surely with all the news articles people post on here about a booming Iranian domestic industry means they don’t even need India to be involved.

 

[925boy]

Overall, i think Chabbar is a dead project.

Its dead to you but alive to your govt. Actions speak louder than words.

 

[SubWater]

Why does Iran even need India to hold its hand on Chabahar? Surely with all the news articles people post on here about a booming Iranian domestic industry means they don’t even need India to be involved.

First, foreign investment is welcome.
Second, We are under harsh sanctions, which hurting our economy.
Now we are fully standing on our domestic capabilities.

 

[Kaniska]

Its dead to you but alive to your govt. Actions speak louder than words.

Chabar was a reaction of popular support that Iran enjoys among Non Muslims in India.Surpriny Iran is one of the few countries which is always admired by our Hindu people even if we like Israelis...It may be due to your culture and civilization connect between both nations.
Personally in this foroum, i have alligned with everything to continue to support with India and Iran. Your FM Mr Zaved Sharif is a respected person among diplomatic circle in New Delhi.
In general, although we have huge economic relations with Arabs, but they were never our friends...

There was situations in history where nation find out their friends and not so friendly country...Kashmir and 370 was a situation for us this year.

Again, it is Iran’s choice to choose your path and so does India and its people’s choice to choose ours. I am not gov representatives either.But i can see the direction of change of wind from the pulse of our media

Why does Iran even need India to hold its hand on Chabahar? Surely with all the news articles people post on here about a booming Iranian domestic industry means they don’t even need India to be involved.

That is a valid question. There are few players in the region who can invest in Iran.

Western Bloc
China
India
Russia
Japan

Now western block will not invest due to obvious reason
China invested in Gwadar so they do not need another port with a distance of 70 miles from Gwadar
Russia was not interested
Japan is not intrested
India is intrested and only few countries which has maintained a balanced relation with Iran in spite being a friendly country of US.

So if India back out or slow down the other choice would be only China.

 

[BATMAN]

Chabahar is progressing, and we continue that with or without India.

Iran has bandar abbas and there's no Chabahar without India and US.
If Pakistan was a sovereign country, conspiracy like Chabahar would never be allowed.

 

[-blitzkrieg-]

Sanctions apparently cant stop Iran from getting strategic facilities and arrangements with neighboring countries. China and Russia are apparently supporting strongly for Pakistan to do its part of the IP pipeline despite the sanctions currently on Iran. The next few years in southeast Asia and Middle east will be VERY interesting..


How??? this makes no sense. Iran wont allow it, unless a grand peace deal between US and Iran is on its way or signed already by the time that happens. Or Iran will extort US financially to allow it happen. Sorry, but Pakistan is way more likely to the route that US troops exit Afghanistan. Pakistan can yell all it wants, but we know Pakistan in the end will always "work" with US in that region.

1. and?? You want Afghanistan's economic lifeline to be only controlled by Pakistan? Afghanistan needs alternative routes for commerce.

I have no good idea why Pakistan hasnt done this, and CHina and Russia are currently in strong support of it. Pakistan took money and other benefits instead of securing its energy via the IP pipeline.

The whole point of having chabahar in first place was INSTC, however when Pakistan blocked US supply line in 2011, US decided to have Indians fast pace chabahar not because it wanted to subvert Gwadar/CPEC( like it was shown in media and was BS) but have its own alternate exit ready when and if needed...The protocol would be simple, Indians would transport US stuff on containers and use a port leased to an Indian company to ship it out and Iranians would shut their eyes away and get some sort of favor against it.If you see the history Indians only got interested about Chabahar in 2002 right after the invasion of Afghanistan, tells you a lot.
We know moving everything out of a small port is not the best possible thing to do.US would still need multiple strategies, however this is one of their exits in future..
Iran has worked backdoor with US on lots of arena including Iraq, Syria and Afghanistan.Turkmenistan is a major middleman for the two besides some other nations.



Michael Kugelman (AsiaProgram/TheWilsonCenter) acknowledges what i ve been telling people here for a long time.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1210277718572642310

Pakistan cant afford sanctions at a critical juncture for a pipeline it has an alternative for. Everything has a time and this is a long game.Secondly there were no banks ready to finance Pakistani side of pipeline.

 

[BATMAN]

i would rather give credit to MBS who has successfully nullified 70 years of India Iran allignment and put India into his side.

After all it's all about who's the oil supplier... what's India got to loose/earn if it's Saudi oil or Iranian oil? Provided India remain exempted from US sanctions!

 

[925boy]

How is

Why does Iran even need India to hold its hand on Chabahar? Surely with all the news articles people post on here about a booming Iranian domestic industry means they don’t even need India to be involved.

How is Iran letting India "hold its hands"???? India wants to be able to do trade with Afghanistan and Iran wants to facilitate that because that contributes to its strategic outlook on Afghanistan. Its a partnership with Afghanistan being the focal point.

 

[Indus Pakistan]

Pakistan decides to strangle Afghanistan economically for whatever reason(s)

How can that happen. Do Tajikistan, Uzbekistan depend on Pakistan?

 

[925boy]

How can that happen. Do Tajikistan, Uzbekistan depend on Pakistan?

Tajikistan and Uzbekistan are inefficient trade routes for Afghanistan to use. Pakistan is the most optimal, but Pakistani govt has for different reasons and timings strangled Afghanistan economically by cutting off its route for Afghanistan. Iran is the 2nd most efficient route of of Land locked Afghanistan.

 

[Kaniska]

After all it's all about who's the oil supplier... what's India got to loose/earn if it's Saudi oil or Iranian oil? Provided India remain exempted from US sanctions!

Gulf India relation is not all about oil.

 

[BATMAN]

The whole point of having chabahar in first place was INSTC

That's the biggest and blatant lie one can ever shoot.
Chabahar has zero economic sense. Iran has a natural port Bandar Abbas, which is under utilized.
Neither they need India to come settle next to Gawadar, years before port is actually built.

when Pakistan blocked US supply line in 2011, US decided to have Indians fast pace chabahar not because it wanted to subvert Gwadar/CPEC

You are forgetting that the geographical location of Chabahr falls within Iran.
if i hypothetically believe you, that Pakistan would block US escape from Afghanistan, although chances are 0.001 % than isn't it better US use Tehran to escape!
Chabahar falls too close to a (hypothetically) hostile Pakistan!

 

[-blitzkrieg-]

India wants to be able to do trade with Afghanistan and Iran wants to facilitate that because that contributes to its strategic outlook on Afghanistan.

crap of highest order..
The cost of the same bread transported through Chabahar would be unaffordable for Afghanis compared to what they get from right across the border..
What will happen to all this if tomorrow Pakistan lets India do controlled transit trade.

That's the biggest and blatant lie one can ever shoot.
Chabahar has zero economic sense. Iran has a natural port Bandar Abbas, which is under utilized.
Neither they need India to come settle next to Gawadar, years before port is actually built.

But BandarAbbas is on the other side of the strait.There was economical sense in regards to INST as it offered somewhat shorter route and it was all pretty sleekly put in place, showing world its for INSTC however it was being promoted differently for each power US and Russia.

 

[GumNaam]

has india gone into the sh!tter that fast that they need america's written approval to finance a mere $85 million? just sad and pathetic...

 

[BATMAN]

Look again at the proximity of under utilized bandar abbas to chabahar. While Indians are sitting there long before the construction of bandar abbas, and if ever got constructed, chabahr would never be functional as a trade port.