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[atatwolf]

Many things happened to minorities in Turkey after the world war and Ataturk created a hell-like situation for Kurds after the war, all of this aside, these guys are blindly supporting Turkey, put aside their support for the Aliyev republic. If they chose a country like Switzerland as their role model, it would be no problem, but this attitude is truly ridiculous.

I had such a great laugh reading this while knowing it comes from a Farsi Iranian.

Apparently Farsi's see themselves on the same level with Switzerland.

 

[rmi5]

I didn't change even one word, but you not only changed the translation, but you didn't even translate the second half of it. As I said, mention any Iranian member you like to verify whether my translation is right or yours. I didn't write any impolite words to change it to polite ones. As I said, some courage was needed here which unfortunately doesn't exist at all.

And no one sent for other members, don't try change the topic.

@Kaan Would you please send all of our posts to tea Garden thread?

I really have no energy for a useless piss contest over translating of that text with you. Anyway, You changed your tone used about Azeris, and tried to apologize for your comment in your translation comment. Anyway, the essence of your comment is still remained the same, and is BS. Like your bogus claims about creating a hell for minorities in Turkey by Ataturk, having a superior policy over turks, as Atatwolf has also quoted it for you, and your BS claims about millions of Azeris who despise your regime and call them and mock them as blind-supporters of a country like Turkey, and not even something like switzerland, ...
BTW, Kaan can do his job better than you. no need to mention him, he would do what he think is right whenever he gets online.

 

[Serpentine]

I had such a great laugh reading this while knowing it comes from a Farsi Iranian.

Apparently Farsi's see themselves on the same level with Switzerland.

You don't even know what the topic was about, read the whole post so you wouldn't say something like this again.

I said in my post that those who have written that racist article take republic of Azerbaijan or Turkey as their role model for symbols of minority rights, which is ridiculous, if it was Switzerland, it would be no problem. Nowhere in my post I said that we are symbols of minority right.

I really have no energy for a useless piss contest over translating of that text with you. Anyway, You changed your tone used about Azeris, and tried to apologize for your comment in your translation comment. Anyway, the essence of your comment is still remained the same, and is BS. Like your bogus claims about creating a hell for minorities in Turkey by Ataturk, having a superior policy over turks, as Atatwolf has also quoted it for you, and your BS claims about millions of Azeris who despise your regime and call them and mock them as blind-supporters of a country like Turkey, and not even something like switzerland, ...
BTW, Kaan can do his job better than you. no need to mention him, he would do what he think is right whenever he gets online.

Again the same lies. Since you have a history of it in the forum, with all respect, you are not authorized to verify whether the translation was correct or not. You simply changed the whole context and words and even added the word 'creature' to it, how low is that, really?
I said earlier, mention anyone who knows Persian on this forum to verify whose translation is accurate, otherwise just accept that you didn't find the courage to translate what I said word by word, let alone adding words to it from yourself.

 

[Serpentine]

Yes, but if you are a Swiss person it makes sense you saying that. As an Iranian telling Turkey to use Swiss model is ridiculous, and it is even funnier you still don't get how ridiculous you look

I think I might attribute it to English comprehension problem, since you didn't even understand what I wrote. That post wasn't even directed at Turkey.

The words bigger-sized are the code in your post. You simply say You( Azerbaijani Turks and kurds) should actually hate Turks, They created a hell for kurds with the foundation of Turkey, Why should you go after them?!

This is called hate speech at best. Even your this translation reflects the main idea in all actions of Mullahs against Turkey.

Thanks for letting us to see it via your own words.

it's the last time I'm repeating this since there seems to be a problem understanding English sentences. The whole translation above was directed to those racists who had written that article I explained about above the translation, not to Azeris, not to Kurds, not to Turks and not any other group. If you want to generalize them to whole Azerbaijanis, then that's your problem, not mine.

racist article? Since when protesting to change the university name from University of Azerbaijan to University of mullah Madani is racism? the second article protested insulting Babak khurremdin. The third one was protesting against insulting sattarkhan by the farsi so called islamic society of university. which one of these three protests have been racists?

You haven't even seen those articles. The article with the title Fa174 virus wasn't an innocent protesting, it was a bunch of racist nonsense that didn't have even slightest elements of a 'civil' protesting. About that virus coming prom places where Persians live and not to send your kids to 'infected' schools. Of course you would say they were simply 'protesting'.

 

[rmi5]

You haven't even seen those articles. The article with the title Fa174 virus wasn't an innocent protesting, it was a bunch of racist nonsense that didn't have even slightest elements of a 'civil' protesting. About that virus coming prom places where Persians live and not to send your kids to 'infected' schools. Of course you would say they were simply 'protesting'.

I don't know that you bring this BS claims from which source, but I have directly access to Tabriz and asked a person to let me know about the content of these articles and what has exactly happened, while you don't know anything except for BS mullah media.

 

[Serpentine]

Your problem with only them does not push you to write those words about Turks and Turkey, does it?

therefore, You actually did say what you think about Turkey and Turks, when others left you with no argument but the lovely one ''hate''.

I criticized policies against minorities after WWII. It's Turk's business, not mine what they have done in their country after world war. It it becomes my business when a minority in my country tries to idolize Turkey or Azerbaijan as symbols of minority rights to advovate separatism propaganda.

I didn't say anything 'hateful' towards Turkish people, but I did criticize some policies, just like how you bash some of Iran's policies, but still I don't complain from 'hate speech'. If you think there has been a hate speech, put the exact sentence here and I will clarify it for you.

I don't know that you bring this BS claims from which source, but I have directly access to Tabriz and asked a person to let me know about the content of these articles and what has exactly happened, while you don't know anything except for BS mullah media.

Then it seems your 'direct' access to Tabriz has some serious flaws.

 

[rmi5]

I criticized policies against minorities after WWII. It's Turk's business, not mine what they have dome in their country after world war. It it becomes my business when a minority in my country tries to idolize Turkey or Azerbaijan as symbols of minority rights.

I didn't say anything 'hateful' towards Turkish people, but I did criticize some policies, just like how you bash some of Iran's policies, but still I don't complain from 'hate speech'. If you think there has been a hate speech, put the exact sentence here and I will clarify it for you.



Then it seems your 'direct' access Tabriz has some serious flaws.

I have seen this picture before, and I don't see any problem in this article. they have metaphorically used the word virus instead of your language, since they need to consider censorship of mullahs.
Anyway, your main problem is with the "South Azerbaijan isn't Iran" banner.

 

[Serpentine]

I have seen this picture before, and I don't see any problem in this article. they have metaphorically used the word virus instead of your language, since they need to regulate censorship of mullahs.
Anyway, your main problem is with the "South Azerbaijan isn't Iran" banner.

If you don't have any problem with it and you try to justify it, then there is nothing we can discuss here. I see it as racism, you don't, end of discussion.

And about the banner, I didn't even mention that in my post, that didn't take my attention even. My problem was that article.

 

[rmi5]

If you don't have any problem with it and you try to justify it, then there is nothing we can discuss here. I see it as racism, you don't, end of discussion.

And about the banner, I didn't even mention that in my post, that didn't take my attention even. My problem was that article.

LOL, I don't need to justify anything, since it is already OK. About the banner, I can feel the burning inside many of your type.

 

[Serpentine]

LOL, I don't need to justify anything, since it is already OK. About the banner, I can feel the burning inside many of your type.

Just because you 'feel' something is true doesn't mean it's the reality.

And how exactly does Azerbaijan treat its minorities? Can you come up with any concrete examples?
A video on Lezgins ("Azadlıq" is the Azerbaijani branch of "Radio Liberty", so it's an opposition source, just so you know), the largest minority, and all of their minority rights are covered, including Lezgin language in schools. More than what can be said about Iran, no?

I don't want to get in to this discussion, we have had it many times before. Just as a fact, as you also know, Azerbaijan is not a democracy and there reports by human rights groups about minority prosecution. Even if all of them are wrong, my point was that there are many more bright examples of human rights or minority rights like Switzerland, Norway or Finland.

http://www.humanrightseurope.org/20...ity-rights-activists-targeted-for-disloyalty/

Minority Rights Group International : Azerbaijan : Azerbaijan Overview

Azerbaijan: Baku Keeps Lid on Ethnic Minorities | EurasiaNet.org

Armenian cemetery in Julfa - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

And what about replacing Persian poems of Nizami in his tomb and with Turkish translation? Those tablets were always a part of Nizami's tomb, but suddenly, Azeri government felt insecure about them replaced them with Turkish translations of Nizami's poems. Just imagine if Iran had done something like this for a Turkish poet, destroying his poems and replacing them with Persian translation. I can clearly imagine what your reaction would be. Now you may try to bring some excuses to this, but the point is to prove that Azerbaijan is certainly not a shining star in personal freedoms or minority rights, the same that you claim for Iran, certainly not in the same league as countries I mentioned.

@Serpentine

i claimed something, you asked me to prove it. I showed it in your own post, and then you excused it.

Now you are again asking me to go back to the start and go through all these things again to see how you try to get away with some excuses.

When you are wrong, just aplogize or come up with new arguments; but if you try to excuse them, then do not say let's go back and go through this again. Because when you start to excuse somethings, that means you do inside know that what you did is wrong, and try to get away from that with some last minute lame excuses.

No Turk here is trolling the subject, please do the same.

You bolded these 3 sentences and said they are 'codes':

Ataturk created a hell-like situation for Kurds

these guys are blindly supporting Turkey

I'm not saying because they are bad

Now which one of them is hate speech towards Turkish people? Speaking about Ataturks's policies regarding Kurds in first years? Ataturk is one person and a politician, criticizing his policies has nothing to do with hate speech. You may not accept those allegations, but you can't label it as hate speech. Or saying that some racists who have written an article blindly support Turkey? Or saying that those who have done this are bad?

So just like previous arguments, you are merely trying to twist the words.

 

[rmi5]

It's based on perspective. That's what you say. If there is any difficulty, it's for all Iranians, not just Turks. Maybe that's your attitude, to give land to anyone who wants to separate. But that's now how it works over here.



Calm down, after that I will answer the rants. There was nothing worthy in your post to answer except personal insults and racism as much as I tried to find one.

First you showed your lack of courage by that half-assed translation and now by twisting my words that I want to kick all Azeris out of Iran. I find 2 things in your posts very funny: 1. When you call me a liar 2. When you call me a fascist and a racist. This is the irony indeed.

And BTW, if you can't control your nerves and emotions, you don't have to quote me, my answer was directed to another member.

Bunch of non-sense again. Did your so called super-duper translation changed anything? No, all turkish members, including Turar, Islamic Faith, Atatwolf, ... started to protest you based on your own translation, and not mine. 2)When someone wants to kick some people out, it is called fascism and racism. check the dictionary about it.
Anyway, I am very happy that you finally showed up in such a discussion, and showed your true face to Turkish members.

 

[olcayto]

Ya şu waff forumu nasıl bir yer öyle?
Hayatım da hiç o kadar gerizekalı yı bir yerde görmedim

 

[rmi5]

@Kaan

Konulardan birinin başlığı değişmiş ve çok vahim bir hale gelmiş.

Turkey-Pkk conflict dendiği zaman resmi ve kanuni bir statüsü var izlenimi doğar.

Pkk yasa dışı bir terör ve insan-uyuşturucu kaçakçısı bir örgüt, eğer bunu gözardı edip bu üstteki başlık kullanılırsa birçok şeyi inkar etmiş ve ölmüşüz demektir.

Başlığı uygun bir şekilde lütfen değiştiriniz.

Kaan will be offline for about a week.

Ya şu waff forumu nasıl bir yer öyle?
Hayatım da hiç o kadar gerizekalı yı bir yerde görmedim

What's up?

 

[olcayto]

Kaan will be offline for about a week.


What's up?

Kind of sick lately. My stomach is killing me right now.

What have you been up to?

 

[rmi5]

Kind of sick lately. My stomach is killing me right now.

What have you been up to?

In real world, I was on a trip recently, and visited California. It was fun to see my friends and also visiting that state.
In PDF world, We had some flaming with farsis recently.