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[Ahiska]

İki hafta once uç kursunla vurulan Ahiskali hemserimiz, uzun zaman yogun bakimda hayata mucadele vermesine ragmen hayatini kayb etdi. Ailesine ve butun Ahiskalilara baş sagligi diliyorum.

 

[Targon]

Eşeği saldım çayıra
Otlaya karnın doyura
Gördüğü düşü hayıra
Yoranın da anasını

Münkir münâfıkın soyu
Yıktı harap etti köyü
Mezarına bir tas suyu
Dökenin de anasını

Müfsidin bir de gammazın
Malı vardır da yemezin
İkisin meyyit namazım
Kılanın da anasını

Derince kazın kuyusun
İnim inim inilesin
Kefen dikmeye iğnesin
Verenin de anasını

Dağdan tahta getirenin
Mezarına götürenin
Talkınını bitirenin
İmâmın da anasını

Kazak Abdal söz söyledi
Cümle halkı dahleyledi
Sorarlarsa kim söyledi
Soranında anasını

 

[LegionnairE]

@LegionnairE

Boy you are sad

İki hafta once uç kursunla vurulan Ahiskali hemserimiz, uzun zaman yogun bakimda hayata mucadele vermesine ragmen hayatini kayb etdi. Ailesine ve butun Ahiskalilara baş sagligi diliyorum.

Çok üzüldüm. Değerli bir kardeşimizdi, huzur içinde yatsın.

 

[Islamic faith&Secularism]

@Kaan

Konulardan birinin başlığı değişmiş ve çok vahim bir hale gelmiş.

Turkey-Pkk conflict dendiği zaman resmi ve kanuni bir statüsü var izlenimi doğar.

Pkk yasa dışı bir terör ve insan-uyuşturucu kaçakçısı bir örgüt, eğer bunu gözardı edip bu üstteki başlık kullanılırsa birçok şeyi inkar etmiş ve ölmüşüz demektir.

Başlığı uygun bir şekilde lütfen değiştiriniz.

 

[Serpentine]

their problem is that there is a racism deep rooted in their minds. It is common between all of them with almost no exception. But, mullah goons have some political intentions and obsessions as well.

It's funny how you use racism to complain about racism. Except 2 suicide trolls who have made like 10 accounts, I have never seen any other Iranian member insulting Turks because of their race. But how many times have you insulted Persians on this forum and the other one? I don't care about your racism towards Persians since you are only one guy, but it's not good when you insult them with racism and accuse them of racism at the same time. It's very obvious who is the racist here.

And all of this started after some internet fight with an anonymous troll, turning you from a quasi-nationalist to a Pan-Turk Azerbaijani who advocates separatism and beyond all this, can't even speak one word of Turkish language. This whole thing is just an interesting development and the reasons are obvious, but it may spark some controversy here if discussed.


On topic,@atatwolf you could at least translate a part of the text to English so we may all see those 'strong' proofs that Iran is supporting PKK now. You have created so many similar threads about Iran supporting evidence, but all of them had the same fate. It would be better if you also provide a brief English translation for the article.

 

[rmi5]

But think its more connected to the regime than avarage people, Turkey also had problems with minoritys in the past but this doesnt mean Turks are all racists.

Dude, when I am talking about racism, I am talking about the mentality of their average people, not their government. It is impossible to hang out with bunch of iranians and do not hear racist jokes or comments. this racism, not only exists among the low educated part of the society, it also exists or even amplified for the upper class as well. That's not a surprise, since they are all brought up with poem books like shahnameh, which is racist fantasizing of a farsi in 1000 years ago, and also brought up with the history books which are written by bunch of ultra-racist morons who have even faked historical documents, ...

 

[rmi5]

It's funny how you use racism to complain about racism. Except 2 suicide trolls who have made like 10 accounts, I have never seen any other Iranian member insulting Turks because of their race. But how many times have you insulted Persians on this forum and the other one? I don't care about your racism towards Persians since you are only one guy, but it's not good when you insult them with racism and accuse them of racism at the same time. It's very obvious who is the racist here.

And all of this started after some butt-hurt internet fight with an anonymous troll, turning you from a quasi-nationalist to a Pan-Turk Azerbaijani who advocates separatism and beyond all this, can't even speak one word of Turkish language. This whole thing is just an interesting development and the reasons are obvious, but it may spark some controversy here if discussed.


On topic,@atatwolf you could at least translate a part of the text to English so we may all see those 'strong' proofs that Iran is supporting PKK now. You have created so many similar threads about Iran supporting evidence, but all of them had the same fate.

You are also another racist farsi, who were posting the so called Armenians protest pictures in front of Turkish embassy and were deleting our posts against your regime and friends of your regime in return. I can easily translate what you have written on the other fasri forum and how you insulted Ataturk, Azerbaijan and Turkiye. Instead of using taqqiya and covering your butt-hurt, try to get civilized and eliminate your racism.

 

[Serpentine]

You are also another racist farsi, who were posting the so called Armenians protest pictures in front of Turkish embassy and were deleting our posts against your regime and friends of your regime in return.

Posting pictures of a demonstration in Tehran doesn't make me a racist and I already said that I don't defend their cause for demonstration necessarily. I posted pictures because Armenians are a passive part of our society and barely make any noise, it was a news to me and a first time to see them demonstrating in streets. But it's good that except this, you have nothing against me and repeat it again and again. And even if I defended them, that still wouldn't make me a racist.

I can easily translate what you have written on the other fasri forum and how you insulted Ataturk, Azerbaijan and Turkiye. Instead of using taqqiya and covering your butt-hurt, try to get civilized and eliminate your racism.

There is no need to lie to make me a racist. I encourage you to bring my posts from other forums and we will see who the liar is. I have criticized Turkey's policies here numerous times and even had fights with some Turkish members over them, but not only once I have used any racial insults towards them nor ever insulted Ataturk. However I have my opinion about some policies in Turkey now and in the past, I won't raise them here anymore because they will cause unnecessary troll war. Turkish members don't like many policies of Iran, this goes both ways. One thing is for sure, I am against all separatists and I wouldn't waste a second to fight their twisted logic. Now if all this makes me a racist, then yes, I'm proud to be a racist in your eyes.



Since this is going off topic, let's continue this discussion in tea garden or chill thread.

 

[rmi5]

Posting pictures of a demonstration in Tehran doesn't make me a racist and I already said that I don't defend their cause for demonstration necessarily. I posted pictures because Armenians are a passive part of our society and barely make any noise, it was a news to me and a first time to see them demonstrating in streets. But it's good that except this, you have nothing against me and repeat it again and again. And even if I defended them, that still wouldn't make me a racist.



There is no need to lie to make me a racist. I encourage you to bring my posts from other forums and we will see who the liar is. I have criticized Turkey's policies here numerous times and even had fights with some Turkish members over them, but not only once I have used any racial insults towards them nor ever insulted Ataturk. One thing is for sure, I am against all separatists and I wouldn't waste a second to fight their twisted logic. Now if all these makes me a racist, then yes, I'm proud to be a racist in your eyes.



Since this is going off topic, let's continue this discussion in tea garden or chill thread.

OK, then do you want me to translate your post here:
http://www.military.ir/forums/topic/27737-مهم-اغتشاش-و-درگیری-به-دلیل-تبلیغ-تجزیه-طلبی-در-ن/

?
BTW, era_923 is your account, right?

 

[Serpentine]

OK, then do you want me to translate your post here:
http://www.military.ir/forums/topic/27737-مهم-اغتشاش-و-درگیری-به-دلیل-تبلیغ-تجزیه-طلبی-در-ن/

?
BTW, era_923 is your account, right?

Indeed, that's my account, translate my post word by word and put it here. But do it in tea garden thread since it is going further off topic.

 

[rmi5]

Indeed, that's my account, translate my post word by word and put it here. But do it in tea garden thread since it is going further off topic.

Here, you have called Azerbaijan as Aliyev republic which does not even worth to be considered.
Then you have said that Ataturk is the one who created and is responsible for the created hell for kurds and other minorities in Turkey after WWI. Then you say that, although they, (Turks), are bad creatures who behave awful with other people, (minorities in Turkey), we (farsis) should not be like them and
BTW, you have called Azeris as agents of Turkiye who are blind supporters of turkey, and stupid to choose a country like Turkey as their role model, instead of a country like switzerland.
BTW, FYI check the likes of this facebook check:
Güney Azərbaycan Milli Oyanış Hərəkatı (GAMOH) | Facebook
and compare it with likes of Iran. Then tell me is it possible that all of these people are agents of Baku and Ankara? Your type are only bunch of morons who can only throw words and insults at others, and accuse anyone.

@atatwolf @Sinan @xenon54

 

[rmi5]

I also guess this one acts like a mullah spokesman in this forum whenever i read her comments.

Finally exposed by you, thanks.

Supporting pkk terrorists, backing up Armenians everywhere ... mullahs always find a way to irritate us with them

Brother, please also read the comment #24. I have translated one of his posts in a farsi website as a sample in order to show their true face for anyone.

 

[Serpentine]

Here, you have called Azerbaijan as Aliyev republic which does not even worth to be considered.
Then you have said that Ataturk is the one who created and is responsible for the created hell for kurds and other minorities in Turkey after WWI. Then you say that, although they, (Turks), are bad creatures who behave awful with other people, (minorities in Turkey), we (farsis) should not be like them and
BTW, you have called Azeris as agents of Turkiye who are blind supporters of turkey, and stupid to choose a country like Turkey as their role model, instead of a country like switzerland.
BTW, FYI check the likes of this facebook check:

I knew it. I knew you wouldn't have the decency to translate exactly what I said and not to twist my words in your favor. What a shame:

But to enlighten other members, they should know what the thread was about. It was about a racist article written by some sick minded nutjob about a virus coming from places where Persians live.

Now here's the exact translation of what I said, word by word:

"They (those who have written the article) accuse the Persians of racism and their way to fight with this racism is interesting: racism.

Many things happened to minorities in Turkey after the world war and Ataturk created a hell-like situation for Kurds after the war, all of this aside, these guys are blindly supporting Turkey, put aside their support for the Aliyev republic. If they chose a country like Switzerland as their role model, it would be no problem, but this attitude is truly ridiculous.

Don't misunderstand me, I'm not saying because they are bad, we shouldn't pay attention to our minorities. Exactly the opposite, we should provide them rights to study in theory mother language in schools and despite what others amay think, it's nothing extraordinary, but it will take excuse from many.

We shouldn't allow a very very small number of fascists, represent our dear Turkish speaking people and at the same time we shouldn't let the voice of very very small minority of Anti-Turk Persians be heard among us (Persians).

They are spending huge amounts of resources to spend hatred among people of Iran. We shouldn't sit idly and be happy that nothing is happening around us."

Memebrs like @Abii or any other Iranian member would check to see if this translation is right or not.

@rmi5 It wouldn't require much courage to translate my post exactly as it was and it shows one thing only: how you felt insecure about it. I had the courage to translate my post exactly as it was. Where did I called Turks as 'creatures'? Where did I say ALL Azeris are agents of Turkey? Where did I 'insult' Ataturk? I bashed his policy after the world war, but I didn't insult him personally. Turkish members may argue that I'm wrong, but it's not the problem. The problem is that I haven't racially insulted Turks or Azeris or Ataturk anywhere in my post. It's up to members with least amount of decency to judge what has been said by me.

I had previously criticized some of Ataturk actions, but I had also admired him for doing a very good job of getting Turkey out of that mess after WW1. At least I remember I had this discussion with @xenon54. Now tell me, how did my post was racist when my post was solely directed to those fascists who had written the article.

 

[rmi5]

I knew it. I knew you wouldn't have the decency to translate exactly what I said and not to twist my words in your favor. What a shame:

But to enlighten other members, they should know what the thread was about. It was about a racist article written by some sick minded nutjob about a virus coming from places where Persians live.

Now here's the exact translation of what I said, word by word:

"They (those who have written the article) accuse the Persians of racism and their way to fight with this racism is interesting: racism.

Many things happened to minorities in Turkey after the world war and Ataturk created a hell-like situation for Kurds after the war, all of this aside, these guys are blindly supporting Turkey, put aside their support for the Aliyev republic. If they chose a country like Switzerland as their role model, it would be no problem, but this attitude is truly ridiculous.

Don't misunderstand me, I'm not saying because they are bad, we should have attention to our minorities. Exactly the opposite, we should provide them rights to study in theory mother language in schools and despite what others amay think, it's nothing extraordinary, but it will take excuse from many.

We shouldn't allow a very very small number of fascists, represent our dear Turkish speaking people and at the same time we shouldn't let the voice of very very small minority of Anti-Turk Persians be heard among us (Persians).

They are spending huge amounts of resources to spend hatred among people of Iran. We shouldn't sit idly and be happy that nothing is happening around us."

@rmi5 It wouldn't require much courage to translate my post exactly as it was and it shows one thing only: how you felt insecure about it. I had the courage to translate my post exactly as it was. Where did I called Turks as 'creatures'? Where did I say ALL Azeris are agents of Turkey? Where did I 'insult' Ataturk? I bashed his policy after the world war, but I didn't insult him personally. Turkish members may argue that I'm wrong, but it's not the problem. The problem is that I haven't racially insulted Turks or Azeris or Ataturk anywhere in my post. It's up to members with least amount of decency to judge what has been said by me.

I had previously criticized some of Ataturk actions, but I had also admired him for doing a very good job of getting Turkey out of that mess after WW1. At least I remember I had this discussion with @xenon54. Now tell me, hod did my post was racist when my post was solely directed to those fascists who had written the article.

You did not translate it completely, but the essence of it is exactly the same as what I wrote, plus some more apologizing for your comment, and using a much more polite style here.

You are wasting your precious time on him. rmi5 is a pathological liar.

LOL, I see that @Serpentine is sending his guys to troll me and support his words. LOL, it is very honorable!!!

 

[Serpentine]

You did not translate it completely, but the essence of it is exactly the same as what I wrote, plus some more apologizing for your comment, and using a much more polite style here.


LOL, I see that @Serpentine is sending his guys to troll me and support his words. LOL, it is very honorable!!!

I didn't change even one word, but you not only changed the translation, but you didn't even translate the second half of it. As I said, mention any Iranian member you like to verify whether my translation is right or yours. I didn't write any impolite words to change it to polite ones. As I said, some courage was needed here which unfortunately doesn't exist at all.

And no one sent for other members, don't try change the topic.

@Kaan Would you please send all of our posts to tea Garden thread?