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I myself have been in the Gülen movement, back when I had no idea about their political ambitions. During 2001-2009 I was actively living in Dershane, and I had pupils visiting our Dershane twice a week, that I was preparing a daily schedule to.
My point is, Gülen movement is much larger than what you can imagine. Surely many are being jailed in Turkey, but all of which are affiliated with this movement. It's our court systems afterall that is judging them, so why does it hurt you if Gülenists (coup'ists) are getting imprisoned?

I don't like to hear "AKP was sleeping with Gülen until yesterday.." bla bla, that's irrelevant. What's relevant is especially after the coup, and also all the anti-state propaganda they were involved in both domestically and internationally through all their journalists world wide. And ofcourse this must not go unpunished.

If those who are prisoned are so "innocent", don't worry, they will not get judged for something they didn't do - afterall the man you are so afraid of isn't the judge.

I'm not talking about actual Güllencis, I'm talking about all those obviously not Güllencis jailed/arrested for.. for what exactly? Known leftitst, non-religious people etc. They are jailing anything that is opposed to their government and half way intellectual.

If they are lucky enough to prove they are innocent, which is hard with all the AKP judges, they will still be held for months innocently in jail and lose their jobs in the mean time.

Güllencis can go **** themselves. But this purge has stopped looking for Güllencis a long time ago.

 

[what]

I myself have been in the Gülen movement, back when I had no idea about their political ambitions. During 2001-2009 I was actively living in Dershane, and I had pupils visiting our Dershane twice a week, that I was preparing a daily schedule to.
My point is, Gülen movement is much larger than what you can imagine. Surely many are being jailed in Turkey, but all of which are affiliated with this movement. It's our court systems afterall that is judging them, so why does it hurt you if Gülenists (coup'ists) are getting imprisoned?

I don't like to hear "AKP was sleeping with Gülen until yesterday.." bla bla, that's irrelevant. What's relevant is especially after the coup, and also all the anti-state propaganda they were involved in both domestically and internationally through all their journalists world wide. And ofcourse this must not go unpunished.

If those who are prisoned are so "innocent", don't worry, they will not get judged for something they didn't do - afterall the man you are so afraid of isn't the judge.

I'm not talking about actual Güllencis, I'm talking about all those obviously not Güllencis jailed/arrested for.. for what exactly? Known leftitst, non-religious people etc. They are jailing anything that is opposed to their government and half way intellectual.

If they are lucky enough to prove they are innocent, which is hard with all the AKP judges, they will still be held for months innocently in jail and lose their jobs in the mean time.

Güllencis can go f themselves. But this purge has stopped looking for Güllencis a long time ago.

 

[JustHappened]

I myself have been in the Gülen movement, back when I had no idea about their political ambitions. During 2001-2009

Chinese slave , selling his country for his own pervert opinion ?

Ok , thats not serious.
But a so called Christian " Ablass" @Bismarck

Türkiye will forgive you for sure;

if you have no blood on your fingers and never wanted destroy TÜRKi ye sistemini.
Feel welcome

 

[Selim I]

I'm not talking about actual Güllencis, I'm talking about all those obviously not Güllencis jailed/arrested for.. for what exactly? Known leftitst, non-religious people etc. They are jailing anything that is opposed to their government and half way intellectual.

If they are lucky enough to prove they are innocent, which is hard with all the AKP judges, they will still be held for months innocently in jail and lose their jobs in the mean time.

Güllencis can go f themselves. But this purge has stopped looking for Güllencis a long time ago.

I don't believe these people you talk about (leftist, non-religious people / Kemalists) were totally innocent. I know that many Kemalists made use of Gülen propaganda against the government, they joined their band-wagon and demonized Turkey as a whole, the president, the government deliberately to western media. I hope these people will also taste the harshest punishment that is treason.

For all those who really were innocent (it is no crime to be atheist, or kemalist), I am pretty sure the judges will find out. Judges are not AKP, that's totally ridiculous thing to say. To you every person that is not kemalist has become Erdogan himself.

Chinese slave , selling his country for his own pervert opinion ?

Ok , thats not serious.
But a so called Christian " Ablass" @Bismarck

Türkiye will forgive you for sure;

if you have no blood on your fingers and never wanted destroy TÜRKi ye sistemini.
Feel welcome

I don't have anything against you Hurshid, so be calm. Stop your ignorant comments. I am probably the biggest hater of Gülen and his puppets. Even when I was inside this movement (during my teenage ages) I didn't have any sympathy for Gülen, I only took part of his organization from my family's pressure and for my education. So stop your bullcrap.

I was in Turkey in 15 July, on the streets, defending my country against the coup - all night. I was also out the next night, and the next night.

Stop your shit.

 

[Baybars Han]

@cabatli_53

Its seriously time to permanently ban this zulkarneyn. How can he have so many accounts and still be here? Everyone knows his dual account. Soon he will make 40 accounts, all his brother, sister cousin etc.

 

[Bismarck]

Chinese slave , selling his country for his own pervert opinion ?

Ok , thats not serious.
But a so called Christian " Ablass" @Bismarck

Türkiye will forgive you for sure;

if you have no blood on your fingers and never wanted destroy TÜRKi ye sistemini.
Feel welcome

You want me to take an "Ablass" from @Selim I ?

 

[KediKesenFare3]

Mate, i was thinking how much our society became divided....

You know a few months ago, some guy kicked a woman in the bus because she was wearing shorts...he got released after a brief detention. Yesterday, a woman and a head-scarfed woman fought in the bus. Police detained the woman without the hijab and put her into jail until trial.

Academics getting brutalized by police.

Are we heading towards a civil war ? I mean, this constant injustice, police brutality against citizens whom don't have AKP mindset. It's really easy to start things. Just a person with a gun, would shot police while they are brutalizing citizens. Police would shot citizens. And you got a civil war in your hands, just like how it started in Syria.

I heard that some of our people started get readying themselves, to move over seas instead of something happens. One of them is one of my relative. He has plans to move to US in case something happens. (what's worrying me is that he knows the president in person.)

http://www.cumhuriyet.com.tr/haber/...otobuste_tekme_davasi_8_Mart_a_ertelendi.html



Ve Cumhuriyet'in Almila Kursar ile alakali haberleri: http://www.cumhuriyet.com.tr/arama/almila kursar

Zero

Uzun lafin kisasi:

Everyone should put his own house in order first, abicigim.

Sakin sanma ki siz onlardan üstünsünüz. Cünkü degilsiniz. Siz bir madalyonun iki yüzüsünüz.

 

[-SINAN-]

http://www.cumhuriyet.com.tr/haber/...otobuste_tekme_davasi_8_Mart_a_ertelendi.html



Ve Cumhuriyet'in Almila Kursar ile alakali haberleri: http://www.cumhuriyet.com.tr/arama/almila kursar

Zero

Uzun lafin kisasi:

Everyone should put his own house in order first, abicigim.

Sakin sanma ki siz onlardan üstünsünüz. Cünkü degilsiniz. Siz bir madalyonun iki yüzüsünüz.

You can try to explain your thoughts, more openly. I didn't understand what you are trying to say.

 

[Selim I]

It wasn't the same reason I have banned you cause of sharing same IP with your "brother"? What's your purpose of using two different login but same ideology/style while using same computer ? Both of you almost tell same things as being a part of FETO terror organization in times when "you don't have any idea about their politic ambitios? " Really Who are you? Your statements about Ataturk reminds me the general hatred feelings of FETO terrorists and their trained f@cking elements behind closed doors acting against Turkish Republic. Tell me a few reasonable thing.

Facts are:
Both me and Zulkarneyn has been part of Gülen back in the days up until 2009, lomg before any split between AKP and Gülen occured. We both never really liked their Dershane's, and we had enough power to leave that organisation when we started in university (no more pressure from family). And theres only one year difference between my brother and i.

My brother visited me not many days ago. I can't remember the exact day, but i guess it was sunday or monday to be exact. And he had logged into this site using his mobile device. That may be an answer to IP's matching. I guess you'll realise that my IP is different to his on all other occasions. He lives one hour's distance away from me.

No more private info about us. If you like me to elaborate anything, I'd be happy to share more privately.

 

[Zulkarneyn]

Do you guys seriously suffer from short term memory loss? I've explained this a million times, i'm not gonna explain again. Go ahead and ban whatever the **** you want to ban cabatli. Im not gonna explain shit to you.

Accusing me of insulting Ataturk without providing a single evidence, accusing me of double accounting for years, even though i've explained it several times, sharing my ip with everyone. Even though you have banned me several times, because i introduced defence.pk to my brother. You can't fathom the simple fact that he is my younger brother and naturally we share common thoughts on many subjects, I've been here since 2010, what earthly reason would i have for using other accounts, why the hell would i insist to use two accounts? Can any person with an ounce of integrity and brain explain this to me?

Do the exact same thing you have done several times, ban us based on your assumption and suspicion, without really looking into things. That would suit your demeanour and record.

 

[Selim I]

To be honest, even though I've been here much shorter compared to Zulkarneyn (as total spent time) I got quite tired of these accusations. It is as if it is impossible for two brother's to join the same forum, as if this is unheard of in history.

If you were so curious you'd see the IP's are different, and only on few incidents they were equal. Wouldn't this be enough proof illustrating that all day these two users are separate places except for few incidents. And you can easily see my IP is another city compared to his - on this very moment as well.

 

[blondeturkish]

To be honest, even though I've been here much shorter compared to Zulkarneyn (as total spent time) I got quite tired of these accusations. It is as if it is impossible for two brother's to join the same forum, as if this is unheard of in history.

If you were so curious you'd see the IP's are different, and only on few incidents they were equal. Wouldn't this be enough proof illustrating that all day these two users are separate places except for few incidents. And you can easily see my IP is another city compared to his - on this very moment as well.

do you realy think we are that stupid to buy in to that. you are both the same person even the way you write is identical. so stop abusing the forum

 

[Selim I]

do you realy think we are that stupid to buy in to that. you are both the same person even the way you write is identical. so stop abusing the forum

To be honest, I don't care what you believe, or all the rest believe.

I'll continue to read the Turkish section mainly, and give my comments whenever I have some contribution.

 

[Selim I]

OH! And for the record, I think I must let all of you know! I am going to visit my brother today!!!! So if I write any post today from 17.00 CET - 23.00 CET it will most probably be on same IP as him!

Yes! How I almost forgot to let you know when I will visit him.

 

[Zulkarneyn]

OH! And for the record, I think I must let all of you know! I am going to visit my brother today!!!! So if I write any post today from 17.00 CET - 23.00 CET it will most probably be on same IP as him!

Yes! How I almost forgot to let you know when I will visit him.

Good idea. I'll provide the cay pictures, when you come over , remember to take pictures on your way here, people are obviously very curious about our daily life