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Pakistan want to join MILDEN sub project....
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what exactly is MILDEN? a submarine?
It's the acronym for MILLI DENIZALTI (National Submarine)....what exactly is MILDEN? a submarine?
Edit: ok, its a submarine.
From what I hear, the MILDEN is a secretive project, so the Turkish Navy may not want its critical info leaving their hands in any way (perfectly understandable).
The PN might be working on an in-house sub for the future, so it's inviting the Turks to help. However, I don't think the sensitive IP from the MILDEN will make it to a future PN sub. Rather, the PN (via NRDI and MTC) could be working on their own IP (and/or look to get tech others are willing to provide), and build around that.
From what I hear, the MILDEN is a secretive project, so the Turkish Navy may not want its critical info leaving their hands in any way (perfectly understandable).
The PN might be working on an in-house sub for the future, so it's inviting the Turks to help. However, I don't think the sensitive IP from the MILDEN will make it to a future PN sub. Rather, the PN (via NRDI and MTC) could be working on their own IP (and/or look to get tech others are willing to provide), and build around that.
Possible. Interestingly, in 2017, STM (which is owned by the Turkish Gov't) seemed to have invited the PN to work on the TS1700.Two platforms for second strike capability were the target a few years ago - at expected 1900 tons I wonder if the goal is to supplement and supplant the 90B’s?
100% agreed bro.Pakistan should also consider these and make it a standard patrolling vehicle
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Is TS1700 a midget sub or a smaller MILDEN??Possible. Interestingly, in 2017, STM (which is owned by the Turkish Gov't) seemed to have invited the PN to work on the TS1700.
I guess this is the IP Turkey's willing to share with others (while the 'MILDEN' is restricted to the Turkish Navy). If the Turkish Foreign Minister is right, I imagine the PN is willing to work on the Turkish proposal.
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STM - Submarine TS1700
What are the design, purpose, and capabilities of the Submarine TS1700? Click to find out the details of this diesel-electric submarine.www.stm.com.tr
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Maybe it would be a derivative - not a “monkey” model but perhaps missing Turkey specific equipment.Possible. Interestingly, in 2017, STM (which is owned by the Turkish Gov't) seemed to have invited the PN to work on the TS1700.
I guess this is the IP Turkey's willing to share with others (while the 'MILDEN' is restricted to the Turkish Navy). If the Turkish Foreign Minister is right, I imagine the PN is willing to work on the Turkish proposal.
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STM - Submarine TS1700
What are the design, purpose, and capabilities of the Submarine TS1700? Click to find out the details of this diesel-electric submarine.www.stm.com.tr
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No. TS1700 is a full-sized conventional sub.100% agreed bro.
Is TS1700 a midget sub or a smaller MILDEN??
I agree. It could also be a literal vehicle for the PN to access marquee Western sub-systems (e.g., German AIP, UK sensors, etc) without setting-off China flags.Maybe it would be a derivative - not a “monkey” model but perhaps missing Turkey specific equipment.
Pakistan want to join MILDEN sub project....
i hope this is true
Pakistan want to join MILDEN sub project....