Can't Predator drones be hit by Fighter planes or any air defense System by Pakistan.

[GURU DUTT]

Flight ceiling
MQ1: 25000 feet Max or 7.6KM
which is within range of Man pads within Pakistani inventory
MQ9:25000 feet Max or 7.6KM
Same story here
MQ4 Global Hawk (Only reconnaissance plane)
Flight ceiling: 60000 feet 18.8 KM
Interceptable with Medium rannged SAM

You can cross check these stats yourself

please tell me which of these can go beyond 5Km altitude
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mistral_(missile)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anza_(missile)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RBS_70

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ceiling_(aeronautics)

 

[Maj.Osmani]

We have many system and long back tested and demonstrated our capability of shoot down any drone operated by US but the decision must be taken by Govt or GHQ.
And for my Indian friends who are not satisfied ask any technical question about our Air Defense System i would like to explain them.

please tell me which of these can go beyond 5Km altitude
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mistral_(missile)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anza_(missile)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RBS_70

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ceiling_(aeronautics)

HQ-2,HQ-9 and HQ-16

• HQ-2: Upgraded HQ-1 with additional ECCM capability to counter the System-13 ECM aboard U-2s flown by Republic of China Air Force Black Cat Squadron. Upgraded HQ-2s remain in service today, and the latest version utilizes Passive electronically scanned array radar designated SJ-202, which is able to simultaneously track and engage multiple targets at 115 km (71 mi) and 80 km (50 mi), respectively. The adoption of multifunction SJ-202 radar has eliminated the need to have multiple, single-function radars, and thus greatly improved the overall effectiveness of the HQ-2 air defense system. A target drone version is designated BA-6.

 

[GURU DUTT]

We have many system and long back tested and demonstrated our capability of shoot down any drone operated by US but the decision must be taken by Govt or GHQ.
And for my Indian friends who are not satisfied ask any technical question about our Air Defense System i would like to explain them.


HQ-2,HQ-9 and HQ-16

• HQ-2: Upgraded HQ-1 with additional ECCM capability to counter the System-13 ECM aboard U-2s flown by Republic of China Air Force Black Cat Squadron. Upgraded HQ-2s remain in service today, and the latest version utilizes Passive electronically scanned array radar designated SJ-202, which is able to simultaneously track and engage multiple targets at 115 km (71 mi) and 80 km (50 mi), respectively. The adoption of multifunction SJ-202 radar has eliminated the need to have multiple, single-function radars, and thus greatly improved the overall effectiveness of the HQ-2 air defense system. A target drone version is designated BA-6.

i was talking about MANPADs

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HQ-2J

get my point sir

 

[Maj.Osmani]

i was talking about MANPADs

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HQ-2J

get my point sir

Thread is about our capability to shoot down drones, we have many systems in place like AA Guns, Man pads, SAM systems. Low, Medium and high altitude.

 

[Pandora]

please tell me which of these can go beyond 5Km altitude
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mistral_(missile)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anza_(missile)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RBS_70

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ceiling_(aeronautics)

We also have FM90, Spada and HQ7. The above mentioned is the max ceiling of those drones. Anza can intercept upto 6Km.

 

[GURU DUTT]

We also have FM90, Spada and HQ7. The above mentioned is the max ceiling of those drones. Anza can intercept upto 6Km.

well sir try google there is no surface to air MANPAD with more than 5Km service cieling today and sure you have regular sams that can bring down drones but the problem is niether your security establishment nor the ruling/politcial elite are willing to sanction or take such a step specially against USA or CIA as they are "resilient by choice"

 

[shah1398]

Keeping in mind the statement of one of pakistan minister that they lacks capability to hit american drones a question arises can't these predator drones be hit by fighter planes or any air defense system.

Shooting US drone is more politicle than military. Way back CAS PAF has categorically mentioned that if given order we can shoot any drone.

http://www.globalresearch.ca/pakist...ed-the-paf-can-shoot-down-the-us-drones/24678

And my sources tell me its something more than just SAMs or F-16s/JF-17s that PAF has in its arsenal as option to bring down any drone.

 

[Maj.Osmani]

well sir try google there is no surface to air MANPAD with more than 5Km service cieling today and sure you have regular sams that can bring down drones but the problem is niether your security establishment nor the ruling/politcial elite are willing to sanction or take such a step specially against USA or CIA as they are "resilient by choice"

There are some interests and some agreement between Musharaf Govt, even they (US/CIA) allowed using our Shamsi airbase to carry out strikes inside our territory against the Taliban / Al Qaida.

 

[GURU DUTT]

Shooting US drone is more politicle than military. Way back CAS PAF has categorically mentioned that if given order we can shoot any drone.

http://www.globalresearch.ca/pakist...ed-the-paf-can-shoot-down-the-us-drones/24678

And my sources tell me its something more than just SAMs or F-16s/JF-17s that PAF has in its arsenal as option to bring down any drone.

http://www.dawn.com/news/1061704

http://tribune.com.pk/story/647672/un-passes-resolution-against-drone-strikes-unanimously/

mazerat ke saath sirji i guess pakistani parliament had already passed bills condemming drone strikes more than once its up to security establishment to take the call and do whats required cause its not the job of polticians to handle sam systems or is it

There are some interests and some agreement between Musharaf Govt, even they (US/CIA) allowed using our Shamsi airbase to carry out strikes inside our territory against the Taliban / Al Qaida.

but sir musharraf lost the power way back in 2007-2008 and since then democracy is there in pakistan which have condemmed such attacks waise bhee we all know its the security establishment of pakistan which decides such issus

 

[Maj.Osmani]

http://www.dawn.com/news/1061704

http://tribune.com.pk/story/647672/un-passes-resolution-against-drone-strikes-unanimously/

mazerat ke saath sirji i guess pakistani parliament had already passed bills condemming drone strikes more than once its up to security establishment to take the call and do whats required cause its not the job of polticians to handle sam systems or is it

They choose to protest the strikes politically, our air Chief categorically said after the demonstration of shooting down the drones that "we show the capability and its up to the Govt to take the decision."

 

[shah1398]

http://www.dawn.com/news/1061704

http://tribune.com.pk/story/647672/un-passes-resolution-against-drone-strikes-unanimously/

mazerat ke saath sirji i guess pakistani parliament had already passed bills condemming drone strikes more than once its up to security establishment to take the call and do whats required cause its not the job of polticians to handle sam systems or is it

They had passed resolution against Salala too but it was military who had closed the NATO supply back then. So Sir the resolution was just of condemnation...not the orders to shoot down the drone and such orders come from the PM over here.

 

[GURU DUTT]

They choose to protest the strikes politically, our air Chief categorically said after the demonstration of shooting down drones that "we show the capability and it up to the Govt to take the decision."

hasnt the parliament of pakistan already passed such a motion way back in 2013 why were the militarry not taking any actions since then ?

 

[Maj.Osmani]

http://www.dawn.com/news/1061704

http://tribune.com.pk/story/647672/un-passes-resolution-against-drone-strikes-unanimously/

mazerat ke saath sirji i guess pakistani parliament had already passed bills condemming drone strikes more than once its up to security establishment to take the call and do whats required cause its not the job of polticians to handle sam systems or is it


but sir musharraf lost the power way back in 2007-2008 and since then democracy is there in pakistan which have condemmed such attacks waise bhee we all know its the security establishment of pakistan which decides such issus

Musharaf is no more in power but Pakistan Govt still in place and that type of agreements happens between the two Govts. US is big supplier of military hardware and funds so you can say the have the privileges.

 

[GURU DUTT]

Musharaf is no more in power but Pakistan Govt still in place and that type of agreements happens between the two Govts. US is big supplier of military hardware and funds so you can say the have the privileges.

With Deu regards major saheb we all know who takes the call on such issues in Pakistan but even then i rest my case and thanks for a meaningful dialog ... thanks again .... cheers mate

 

[Blue Marlin]

Does they work at a height of 60,000 feet or above???

drones operate at a cruising altitude of 25000 ft, yes they have a service ceiling of 50k+ft but i doubt you will see the doing air strikes at that altitude