Can a Muslim be an Indian?

[SQ8]

Since the minorities in your country dont get treated well and ergo you've some pre conceived notion that minority in every country would be treated the same way is a maladroit conclusion.

I have no pre-conceived notions there. Whatever notions there are well provided by the Indian media themselves.

 

[Levina]

I have no pre-conceived notions there. Whatever notions there are well provided by the Indian media themselves.

And you've hand picked only those cases which 're in resonance with your notion.
You have conveniently put on blinders so as to not view the complete truth.

 

[ranjeet]

Hence it also befalls the rest of the Indian people to be more than active to help and persuade Indian Muslims to avoid the narratives of organizations such as IS. To take an ostrich head view of the situation is as bad as the fear of interfering in the religious matters of Indian Muslims. In the end, Only Indian Muslims can save themselves from radicalization and attacks from right wingers..but they will need all the help they can get from those that truly consider them as fellow countrymen.

No one interfers in the Waqf working. Secular parties might provide them with some insulating but we does counter them with hard truth. I do agree with you apprehensions that people in India hates Muslims. heck I hate them with a passion but still I am proud of them for not joining the ISIS. Whatever issues we might have we can discuss and solve it among ourselves but if push came to shove Indian Muslims would stand infront of ISIS themselves and we would backing them fully.

 

[Dem!god]

I have no pre-conceived notions there. Whatever notions there are well provided by the Indian media themselves.

okay.. let me ask u a simple question..

western media try to portray muslims as terrorist.... do u.consider ur self as terrorist...

if.yes.. u are free to hv ur opinion based on our media..
if no u are a hypocrite..

 

[SQ8]

okay.. let me ask u a simple question..

western media try to portray muslims as terrorist.... do u.consider ur self as terrorist...

if.yes.. u are free to hv ur opinion based on our media..
if no u are a hypocrite..

There are Muslims who are terrorists. If I was to deny that no Muslims are terrorists only then could you come up with that rather flawed logic on hypocrisy. Its like the claim that India has no toilets.

And you've hand picked only those cases which 're in resonance with your notion.
You have conveniently put on blinders so as to not view the complete truth.

And what notion is this?

 

[VCheng]

And that state ethos is what is effected by national ethos. Germany is a good reference to how a small smouldering right wing idea can grow on the basis of economic uplift to transform a nation into an intolerant one.

I agree that is precisely the sort of danger that the rule of law is supposed to prevent, as long as the country does not sabotage that itself, as your example shows. What India does to avoid following such a path remains to be seen.

 

[SQ8]

No one interfers in the Waqf working. Secular parties might provide them with some insulating but we does counter them with hard truth. I do agree with you apprehensions that people in India hates Muslims. heck I hate them with a passion but still I am proud of them for not joining the ISIS. Whatever issues we might have we can discuss and solve it among ourselves but if push came to shove Indian Muslims would stand infront of ISIS themselves and we would backing them fully.

I absolutely know that a majority of them would(sans the growing number of ISIS sympathizers... which are all over the world). My question is towards whether if tomorrow another incident is sparked off like the Godhra riots albeit on a larger scale..where will the majority of India stand?

 

[Levina]

And what notion is this?

"Demonising" muslims in India...remember?

Tell me Oscar did you even read the article/OP before you started picking on posts here???

 

[SQ8]

"Demonising" muslims in India...remember?

Tell me Oscar did you even read the article/OP before you started picking on posts here???

Oh yes I did. And yes that notion remains, there are regular(popular or not) acts of muslims and Islam being demonized in India.

 

[Dem!god]

There are Muslims who are terrorists. If I was to deny that no Muslims are terrorists only then could you come up with that rather flawed logic on hypocrisy. Its like the claim that India has no toilets.



And what notion is this?

then how come u came to the conclusion based on jst media views...
jst read ur previous post... ur argument is build on what indian media says....
then why u differ now...
i am asking again.. do u see urself as a terrorist, based on western media portrayal...

 

[ranjeet]

I absolutely know that a majority of them would(sans the growing number of ISIS sympathizers... which are all over the world). My question is towards whether if tomorrow another incident is sparked off like the Godhra riots albeit on a larger scale..where will the majority of India stand?

I can't swear on that there won't be any riots if another Godhara happened. but There won't be any larger scale riots over any terrorist attack that much I am sure of. Modi got caught in Godhara riots because he was new in a powerful position. and he called in everyone to quell the riots be it KPS GIll (one who subdued the Punjab insurgency) to the army. He knows how to lead now plus a team unmatched.

 

[Levina]

Oh yes I did. And yes that notion remains, there are regular(popular or not) acts of muslims and Islam being demonized in India.

If something which is wrong is being ridiculed then I have no objection to it.A muslim putting up a Pakistani flag over his roof top would definitely make it to headlines have no doubt. But then few might misconstrue this as stifling of freedom of speech and demonising Islam then call India a potemkin village.

Now let me show you how even our right wingers support muslims...

Narendra Modi unlikely to remove first Muslim Intelligence Bureau chief | Latest News & Updates at Daily News & Analysis

 

[VCheng]

Oh yes I did. And yes that notion remains, there are regular(popular or not) acts of muslims and Islam being demonized in India.

Whatever you refer to is not happening just in India, and is only part of a larger reaction in the civilized world to what is happening in Islam's name, to be fair.

 

[ranjeet]

If something which is wrong is being ridiculed then I have no objection to it.A muslim putting up a Pakistani flag over his roof top would definitely make it to headlines have no doubt. But then few might misconstrue this as stifling of freedom of speech and demonising Islam then call India a potemkin village.

Now let me show you how even our right wingers support muslims...

Narendra Modi unlikely to remove first Muslim Intelligence Bureau chief | Latest News & Updates at Daily News & Analysis

our right wing is loony, but not as much as go against the constitution.

 

[Dem!god]

Whatever you refer to is not happening just in India, and is only part of a larger reaction in the civilized world to what is happening in Islam's name, to be fair.

that is what i am saying from the starting...
if muslim want to feel at home with others then they need to cleanse them self of many stone age practices as well as they have to stop being a judge on every thing...
for muslims everything starts with religion and end on it... they see everything as white and black which is not correct... most of the thing here is grey...
first clean urself from within and then blame the world....