Bush planned Pak attack

[Bhairava]

Capability to shoot down one is also required. You cannot even shoot down one, unless you have a long range SAM system.

True...

I doubt that even Russians would want to take that chance outside its territory. Americans are less tolerant than Russians.

Russkies are becoming increasingly assertive these days.Remeber how Georgia got its rear end spanked.

 

[LeGenD]

Do B52 fly above the range of all Pakistani fighter jets?

Our F-16s might have chance to get close but they will be intercepted by American Air-superiority combat Aircraft. Let us face this, PAF is no match for USAF. heck, not even Chinese airforce stands a chance against USAF.

Reminds me of the thread on F22... nothing can beat the F22 in its stealth and capabilities... still does nt mean we need to bend over to America completely...

We found this out in one of the excercises held in UAE. The Americans completely dominated the competition.

Please consider the political implications of such a thing... Where will the B52s come from? Air to air refueling and all is pretty much useless if the implications are for a friend to turn an enemy and create a wider conflict in the area...

Brother, B-52 are long range bombers. The bombers that were attacking Iraq came from England. After bombing, they went back to England.

Unfortunately, we are far behind Americans in technological race.

 

[Muhammad-Bin-Qasim]

As for the video of Iraq being bombed... Iraq is surrounded by six countries most of them were helping the Americans doing their butchering...

 

[desiman]

With 4,400+ dead, 39,000+ officially wounded while rough estimates putting wounded at 2-3 times of the official figure, that speaks a lot. Plus, in Iraq a certain portion of the public is fighting, had it been whole of Iraq, things would have been much different. Similarly, had it been Pakistan, it would not be some portion of the nation fighting the US, rather whole of it would have been.

And the rag tag Talibans taking out 1,350+US ones and 2,200+ dead over all also speaks a lot.

And they all doing in with just basic weapons, not employing anything extra ordinary.

So, next time, do see the figures also and then speak out.

War is bound to have causalities, specially when your fighting a coward enemy using the terrain to his advantage. The US is fighting the enemy right in their stronghold and has done a commendable job. No other country on this planet can do what the US has done and if they United States decides tomorrow that it wants to invade Pakistan, few in the world can stop it. A couple of Aircraft career fleets are themselves good enough to finish of the Pakistani navy and airforce within hours. In terms of resistance by the general public, those variables can only be assessed when such an event happens.

 

[Muhammad-Bin-Qasim]

War is bound to have causalities, specially when your fighting a coward enemy using the terrain to his advantage. The US is fighting the enemy right in their stronghold and has done a commendable job. No other country on this planet can do what the US has done and if they United States decides tomorrow that it wants to invade Pakistan, few in the world can stop it. A couple of Aircraft career fleets are themselves good enough to finish of the Pakistani navy and airforce within hours. In terms of resistance by the general public, those variables can only be assessed when such an event happens.

Aircraft carriers are not a problem... We can use nukes strategically to wipe them out...

Have you also considered that Pakistan would involve India in such a scenario as we have been discussing...

So like LeGend said... There is no possibility of America attacking Pakistan...

Indians should smoke that in their pipes for a change... Mugarmach Kaheen Ka

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Our F-16s might have chance to get close but they will be intercepted by American Air-superiority combat Aircraft. Let us face this, PAF is no match for USAF. heck, not even Chinese airforce stands a chance against USAF.


We found this out in one of the excercises held in UAE. The Americans completely dominated the competition.


Brother, B-52 are long range bombers. The bombers that were attacking Iraq came from England. After bombing, they went back to England.

Unfortunately, we are far behind Americans in technological race.

But Legend their air superiority planes are not long range are they?

 

[Muhammad-Bin-Qasim]

Also... how about we involve the Israelis in this conflict too... America has a lot to lose with such a thing...

What I m getting at is this...

If we are pushed into the corner... We should be ready to go out with all guns blazing...

We do have the ability to strike Israel dont we?

 

[Ahmad]

Aircraft carriers are not a problem... We can use nukes strategically to wipe them out...



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you guys always talk about nukes as if paksitan is the only country having it. nukes is not a joke, if you can use it on american military targets, then they are 100 times more capable than pakistan to retaliate and nuke anywhere in pakistan. lets dont go in taht directionk, its not good. secondly america is not that stupid to attack pakistan, they simply dont need to do that.

 

[lionheart1]

Aircraft carriers are not a problem... We can use nukes strategically to wipe them out...

Have you also considered that Pakistan would involve India in such a scenario as we have been discussing...

So like LeGend said... There is no possibility of America attacking Pakistan...

Indians should smoke that in their pipes for a change... Mugarmach Kaheen Ka

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But Legend their air superiority planes are not long range are they?

US also have nuke they nuke you to wipe you out, your missile will not even leave your border

 

[rsingh]

Want Bush Back.

 

[Muhammad-Bin-Qasim]

you guys always talk about nukes as if paksitan is the only country having it. nukes is not a joke, if you can use it on american military targets, then they are 100 times more capable than pakistan to retaliate and nuke anywhere in pakistan. lets dont go in taht directionk, its not good. secondly america is not that stupid to attack pakistan, they simply dont need to do that.

Exactly... so let us not bring their aircraft carriers into this either... They are not stupid... If they can bomb us... we can bomb them, India and Israel too...

Or how about smuggling in a nuke to American mainland itself...

I mean before anyone gets shocked at reading this particular statement of mine, Pakistan and Pakistanis should start talking with some basic dignity to America... Its a scandal that the president of an allied nation is talking about attacking us... How dare they...

I dont get the logic of its ok to be bombed by America but not India...

 

[Muhammad-Bin-Qasim]

Want Bush Back.

Your wish could prove true in the sense that America could soon be getting someone worse than Bush as their leader...

Indians should however note that Pakistanis will come out with all guns blazing if war is imposed upon us... This is something that our military should start preparing for even if it were a small military exercise...

 

[Muhammad-Bin-Qasim]

US also have nuke they nuke you to wipe you out, your missile will not even leave your border

What are you? an imbecile? You really believe our missiles wont leave our border? Do you think we will just be waiting and do nothing if someone tried to nuke us? Grow up for heavens sake...

 

[Peacefulll]

The USA is not going to invade/occupy Pakistan. First of all they do not need to, and secondly, they have realized by now, that they suck at ground wars, and they cannot afford another long drawn out ground war sucking all their resources.

But honestly, if the US does attack Pakistan (it will not happen, just for discussion's sake), they will attack from the air - they will attack the industries and infrastructure in addition to decimating the navy, air force, etc. Just because they are stuck in a long drawn out ground war, do not underestimate their technology and resources, please!

 

[Peacefulll]

Also... how about we involve the Israelis in this conflict too... America has a lot to lose with such a thing...

What I m getting at is this...

If we are pushed into the corner... We should be ready to go out with all guns blazing...

We do have the ability to strike Israel dont we?

I don't get this logic. I have heard it from other Pakistanis before. Lot of fans of Saddam Hussein it seems - in the gulf war, he launched Scuds at Israel. But the reason he did was so that Israel gets drawn into the war and the Arab countries providing a base to the Americans would withdraw from the coalition. Frantic diplomacy by the Americans prevented Israel from entering the war.

But what exactly will Pakistan gain by attacking India and Israel if they are attacked by the US? No tangible benefit at all - only doubling the amount of weaponry that will fall on Pakistan! What silly logic is that?

 

[majesticpankaj]

US: jab ghee sidhi unglee se nikalta hai toh unglee tedhi kerne ki kya jarurat hai...

as far as involving israel and india are concerned...what the hell they want to achieve ?