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Burma riots: What the media isn’t telling you

By Francis Wade
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Burma riots: What the media isn’t telling you
By Francis Wade Jun 12, 2012 7:27PM UTC


Several key elements of the spiraling sectarian violence in western Burma are not getting picked up on by media. There is of course an issue with verification, particularly in a situation like this where emotions can fuel propaganda, where communication is very difficult and where the conflict is so inflammatory. But nevertheless it’s worth bringing them to the table.


One thing people seem loath to report is the blatantly racist element to the unrest, which Buddhist Burmese and Arakanese must take the bulk of responsibility for (perhaps however it is because they have greater access to media in which to vent opinions).

This is even apparent among Burma’s pro-democracy leaders, the so-called “forces for change” in the country. Prominent activist Ko Ko Gyi said that the presence of Rohingya, a Muslim ethnic minority which has born the brunt of the rioting, is “infringing on Burma’s sovereignty”. A friend told me today that he’d received an email from a former political prisoner stating that, “if western nations really believed in human rights, they would take the Rohingya from us.”

The role of security forces in the violence has also been underreported, which contributes to statements like this one yesterday from an EU spokesperson: “We believe that the security forces are handling this difficult intercommunal violence in an appropriate way.” That does not marry with reports from locals on the ground.

At least four people have told me that police are acting alongside Arakanese in torching homes of Muslims, while several reports have emerged of police opening fire on crowds of Muslims (NB: Muslims are forbidden from entering Burma’s police force or army – this does carry significance when violence is of this nature). An NGO worker said last night that her family friend, a former politician from Sittwe, has been killed after being arrested over the weekend, while AFP reports that a Rohingya shot by Burmese police has died in Bangladesh.

The UN is unlikely to act unless there is clear complicity in the violence by state agents. The trouble is however that with few journalists or observers on the ground, those responsible for the deaths (which could well be in the hundreds by now) are hard to pinpoint. The UN has withdrawn staff from the region, but Human Rights Watch has urged the government to allow observers in.

There also seems to be something of a PR campaign to cast Muslims as those behind the killings (to make clear, Muslim groups are not innocent bystanders, but have also been involved in arson attacks across the state). One such example is the shaving of the heads of dead victims, often Muslims, and dressing them in monks robes – “and they (media) will take photos of this fake monk corpse to show to the world that these dead bodies were murdered by Muslim [sic]”, one source wrote.



In keeping with past instances of anti-Muslim fever in Burma, the internet has been awash with vitriol. A piece I published on Al Jazeera only yesterday has already attracted 150 comments – they’re a pretty good window into how the debate runs. What is conspicuously absent in all this is any rational debate – indeed most comments, even from the veterans of unrest in Burma, do not tackle the unfolding crisis, but instead exploit it as a means to vent their own bigotry.

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a baby girl taken across a border river at night to escape violence in Myanmar was discovered alone in a boat on Wednesday by Bangladeshi guards who have turned back hundreds of refugees.



The six-week-old infant was handed to a Bangladeshi family who said she was in poor health but that they would look after her in the absence of her parents.



“Our river patrol team intercepted the boat at 2:00 am,” said Major Shafiqur Rahman, who is in charge of the Bangladesh operation to send back boatloads of Rohingya trying to flee from unrest in Myanmar by crossing the river Naf.



“They searched inside and found this Rohingya girl aged about one and a half months,” Rahman told AFP by telephone. “The boat looked empty. It was a miracle but the baby looked frail. “We have handed her to a couple who accepted her willingly.”



Since Monday, Bangladesh river patrol teams have turned back 16 boats carrying more than 660 Rohingya, most of them women and children, fleeing sectarian violence in Myanmar that officials said has killed around 49 people.




মঙ্গলবার দিবাগত রাত ১২ টা। চারিদিকে নিরবতা আর ঘুটঘুটে অন্ধকারাচ্ছন্ন পরিবেশ। নাফ নদীতে বিজিবির টহল সদস্যদের চোখ তখনো সজাগ। কোনভাবেই যেন রাতের অন্ধকারের সুযোগে বাংলাদেশ সীমান্তে ভিড়তে না পারে রোহিঙ্গাবাহী জাহাজ কিংবা নৌকা। ঠিক এমন সময় বিজিবির সদস্যরা দেখতে পায় একটি নৌকা শাহ পরীর দ্বীপের নাফ নদীর মাঝামাঝিতে ভাসছে। ঘুটঘুটে অন্ধকার নদীতে ভাসমান নৌকায় বেশ কয়েকবার কেউ আছে কিনা চীৎকার করে জানতে চাইলে কোনো সাড়াশব্দ পাননি তারা।

এরপর বিজিবি সদস্যরা ওই নৌকার কাছে যান। রাত আড়াইটার দিকে তারা নৌকাটিকে বদরমোকাম ঘাটের অদূরে ভেড়াতে সক্ষম হন। এরপর সেখানে তল্লাশি করে দেখেন, নৌকাটিতে কেউ নেই। কিন্তু হটাত একটি জায়গায় বিজিবি সদস্যের চোখ আটকে যায়।

নৌকাটিতে তল্লাশির এক পর্যায়ে ইঞ্জিন রুমের ভেতর গিয়ে বিজিবি সদস্যরা একটি কাঁথার উপর শুইয়ে রাখা শিশুটিকে দেখতে পান। পরীক্ষা করে দেখেন, প্রায় অসাড় শিশুটির শ্বাস পড়ছে। তারা শিশুটিকে উদ্ধার করে প্রথমে বিজিবি ক্যাম্পে নিয়ে আসেন। এরপর তাকে স্থানীয় অবস্থাসম্পন্ন জেলে কবির আহমদ মাঝির হাতে তুলে দেন।

কবির আহমদ মেয়ে শিশুটিকে নিয়ে টেকনাফের শাহপরীর দ্বীপের ঘোলাপাড়া এলাকায় নিজের বাড়িতে নিয়ে গিয়ে স্ত্রীর হাতে দেন।

বুধবার দুপুরে ওই বাসায় গিয়ে দেখা গেছে, হাড্ডিসার শিশুটির চামড়াগুলো ঝুলে গেছে। জন্ম থেকে ঠোঁট কাটা প্রতিবন্ধী মেয়েটি কান্না করতে চাইলেও তার সেই শক্তি নেই।

কবির আহমেদ মাঝি বলেন, ‘দুধের বাটিতে আঙ্গুল ডুবিয়ে খাওয়াতে চাইলেও শক্তি না থাকায় শিশুটি খেতে পারছে না। তার বাঁচা-মরা এখন আল্লাহর হাতে।’
 
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I looked at the comments section, and read the one written by Aung Myo Zaw. A very, very interesting piece of commentary.
Well! There is no such a name called Rohingya in the history of Arakan. British has recorded Muslims in Arakan as Chittagonians. So, in everyone's opinion, this is the rightest term Biritish used for the Muslims in Arakan. So, British's records are most correct. If so, what term did the British use for Buddhists in Arakan? Rakhine? Obviously not! If yes, is there any evidence for the fact that British refered the Buddists in Arakan as Rakhines? British are right and honest because they refered Muslims in Arakan as Chittagonians. The same British are wrong and dis-honest because they refered Buddists in Arakan as Maghs. Why double standards?
Screw both religions, Islam and Buddhism, and both names, Rakhine and Rohingya here. Let me put some logical arguments. Everyone might agree if I say that there were the periods called Dhannyawadi and Vesali in the history of Arakan. No one will deny this. OK, then. Can anybody tell me that the kings or rulers in these two historical periods, which dated back to more than 2000 years, belonged to which stocks of human race, Indo-Aryan (i.e. Indian-look-alike people) or Mongoloid (Mongolian look-alike people)? What are the meanings of terms Dhannyawadi and Vesali (Vaishali)? From which language these terms were derived from? In which stock of human race did Siddartha Gautama Buddha and most of earliest follwers, because of whom Buddhistism had spreaded throughout the region, belong to?

We know there was a people called Rakkhasha (in Pali meaning Cannibals) who used to eat even human beings who are stragers to them. The word has varied through historical periods from Rakkhasha to Rakkha to Rakkuain now to Rakhine. According some other people, Rakhine was derived from Pali word Rakkhita (meaning people who look after and take care of their race). Yet, it doesn't matter to me. According to the historians, the place was called Rakkhapura (again in Pali). Has the whole region of Arakan including Chittagong area been called so? Have the cannibals used to live throughout the whole region? How did these Rakkhasha people look alike, mongoloid, aryan, caucasians, negroid? Why was a Pali word "Rakkhasha" used to address cannibals? Who named these cannibals as Rakkhasha by using a Pali word? Wasn't there be a paralell people to Rakkasha, who named them so using a Pali word? Or have they named them "Rakkhasha" (cannibals) by theirselves using a Pali word? Was Pali the language of cannibals? Wasn't Pali an Indian literature and language? Isn't it originated to India?

Indo-Arayan people have been living in Arakan since B.C. 3323 according to the book with the title “Za Lok Kay Pho Lay?” (written by San Kyaw Tuan, (Maha Wizza), a Rakhine from Rathedaung, foreworded by the late Dr. Aye Kyaw and contributed by scholars like Dr. Aye Chan, Khin Maung Saw) page No. 81]. Who were these Indo-Aryans? Were not they forefathers of the people called Rohingya today? In which group of human stocks did Rakhines fall, Indo-Aryan or Mongolian?

Burmese Junta and some extremist Rakhines don't want to recognize the name "Rohingya " not because they want their real identity so as to give them "Nationality" but because once they become successful in branding them as Bengalis, it will become easier for them to drive them out of Arakan land. Ultimately, Junta's dream of making Arakan into purely Burmanized Bhuddhist region will come true. Junta wants neither the people called Rakhines nor the people called Rohingyas. Thus, Junta has been setting up modal villages by bringing Bamars from central Burma. Rakhines are well aware of that. Some of the Rakhines simultaneuosly want to fight Junta on one side and Rohingyas on another side in order to have an independent land. It is a very wrong tactic. History has proven that. Hitler lost in the war because he fought Soviet Union on one side and English and French on another side.

Furthermore, I think everybody knows Mexico and Argentina, people there are of spainish origin and speak spainish language. Why don't people call them Spainish instead of Mexican and Argentinian? Americans speak English language and most them are of English. Why don't people call them English in stead of Americans? Most of Chinese and Indians of Malaysia came to Malaysia during British colonial era as I heard. Now they are having the nationality rights even though they are discriminated more or less as I have experienced. The word "Rohingya" is a slight variation of the word "Ruahonga" (in Rakhine meaning "from old village") because the place where Rohingyas used to live was called Ruahong. Rohingyas have the habit of calling someone by the place name where they live. For example, if somebody is from Man-Aung, he will be called as Man-Aunggya, if from RatheThaung, then RatheThaungya and if from ButhiTaung, then Buthi-Thaungya etc. The word Rohingya has formed exactly the way Rakhine has formed from Rakkhasha.

In history, Rohingya didn't feel to call them as Rohingya because the situation and the time had not demanded them to call so. It doesn't mean that this people didn't exist before. So, if someone says there is no word as Rohingya in the history of Arakan, then there is no word as Rakhine either. I hereby am not trying to say that there is no Bengali mixture in them. There is! Yet, even those Bengalis who came to Myanmar during colonial periods should be recognized as Myanmar's nationals because today's generation of them will be at least their third generation. If they Rakhine can exist and be nationals in both countries, Myanmar and Bangladesh, why the Muslims in Arakan be? After all, Bogyoke Aung San promised to Aktle that he would recognize everyone its nationals within the boundaries of Myanmar!!! The more diverse a country with different races, the more prosperous and innovative it will be.

I have just put a logical argument here. Last but not the least, we, most of the people of Myanmar, are mentally sick. That's reason why we are too xenophobic of people of other race and who look different to us. We simply can't tolerate any race besides Mongoloid. We need to grow up a lot.

I must say....intriguing! We must learn everything about them.
 
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wow bro, what a post. Very informative. Before posting i went though comments but skipped this comment after reading the first two lines thinking another bigot like Alaungphaya here.....
 
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US Campaign for Burma » Rohingya People of Burma

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For decades, the Rohingya people have been victims of systematic and widespread human rights violations at the hands of the military junta. In a recent report released by the Irish Center for Human Rights, an expert on international human rights law claimed that these mass atrocities perpetrated by the military government against the Rohingya minority in the country’s western region may constitute crimes against humanity. Overlooked for years, their plight and the root causes of their dire situation remain under-examined.

Brief history of Burma’s Rohingya Minority

The Rohingya are a Muslim ethnic minority living in northern Arakan state in western Burma. They face religious discrimination at the hands of Burma’s military regime, which doesn’t recognize the Rohingya as citizens of Burma. The regime does not consider the Rohingya people as one of 135 legally recognized ethnic minority groups in Burma, leaving the Rohingya stateless, homeless and rights-less.

The first Rohingya people arrived in Burma as early as 7th century. These early migrants were known to be Arab sailors and merchants who traveled to Burma for economic pursuits. These Muslim settlers came to Burma in a total of three waves: from 7th to 13th century, in the 15th century and from 1826 onward throughout the British colonial rule. Today this day, Burma’s military regime maintains that the Rohingya immigrated to Burma from India while under British colonial rule, flagrantly omitting their earlier arrivals and settlements in the region.

With time, these Muslim settlers married into the local culture and made permanent settlements in western region of Burma. Today, Rohingya Muslims constitute 1/3 of the total population of Arakan State, and the rest belongs to Buddhist Arakanese.

Mass Atrocities Against Rohingya: Loss of Land and Rights


The Rohingya are denied fundamental human rights and freedom, and the military regime consistently perpetrates human rights violations against this vulnerable population. The regime refuses to issue identification cards to Rohingya, which are necessary to be able to travel, as well as to obtain passports and enroll in higher education. They are denied land and property rights and ownership. The land on which they live can be taken away at any given time.

Furthermore, the Rohingya are victims of modern-day slavery – forced labor. These people are forced to work without pay on construction sites for roads, railways, and building army barracks. Because they are forced into these construction projects with no compensation, they cannot generate any income to feed themselves and their families. In addition, their non-legal status makes it extremely difficult for the Rohingya to find employment. Acute and chronic malnutrition is rife among the Rohingya minority.

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Moreover, these gas/oil pipelines generate billions of dollars annually for the military, and less than 1% of this gas/oil revenues makes it back into Burma to benefit the people of Burma. Often times, these revenues are used to buy more weapons or end up in off-shore individual bank accounts of the generals and their associates.

The denial of citizenship to the Rohingya means that the Rohingya must abide by laws for “temporary residents.” For example, Rohingya are denied birth certificates, and they must seek permission to marry, a process that may take months or years and may involve considerable bribes and requirements to renounce their religion. Restrictions on movement can prevent the Rohingya from accessing healthcare and education, or from working as civil servants. In many cases, the Rohingya are denied healthcare, or required to pay arbitrary fees.

Land confiscation has become a common practice, as the regime forces the Rohingya to evict from their lands in preparation for international development projects such as gas/oil pipelines and hydropower plants. Among several other development projects in the region, the regime is building the Shwe gas pipeline through Arakan State. The construction of previous pipelines have involved abuses such as forced labor, forced portering and forced resettlement, and it is likely the Rohingya will be further subjected to these abuses upon the beginning of this construction project. Though the regime uses these pipelines to export energy sources, Arakan state is not included on Burma’s power grid and thus has no electricity.

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Military attacks on Rohingya People


As early as 1942, the Rohingya have been the target of state-sponsored persecution. In 1942, an estimated number of 100,000 Rohingya were slaughtered by the Burmese nationals, local Arakanese communists and Japanese occupiers. In 1978, the Burmese Army launched a military offence, named Dragon King, to root out these so-called ‘foreigners’. Hundreds were arrested, tortured, raped and killed. In the following months of the military operation, over 300,000 Rohingya fled into Bangladesh. The Bangladeshi government refused to provide food supplies and other necessities to the Rohingya refugees, leaving many of them to die from starvation and disease.

5983-RohingyaAgain in 1991, the Burmese Army launched another military operation to drive out more Rohingya from Burma’s lands. More than 268,000 Rohingya fled to Bangladesh. The Bangladeshi government forcibly repatriated over 60% of those who fled back into Burma, with full knowledge of their heightened vulnerability to persecution, discrimination, and insecurity.

Stateless and Unwanted

As if their home government does not treat them badly enough, the Rohingya do not find welcome in other countries where they seek refuge. Hundreds of thousands of Rohingya have fled Burma to Bangladesh, Thailand, and Malaysia to escape persecution and adversity only to fall into even greater trials. Currently, over 30,000 Rohingya live in squalid refugee camps in Bangladesh where they are denied access to food supplies, medical aid, and education. Sexual violence against women remain prevalent.

Many Rohingya people also fled to Thailand and Malaysia, with the hope of finding refuge and a life beyond misery and poverty. However, they are subjected to dehumanizing treatments by both Thai and Malaysian authorities. In December 2009, it was reported that Thai officials towed a boatful of Rohingya refugees back into international waters in a motorless barge, where they were at the mercy of the shark-infested sea. According to one survivor of this ordeal, “The boat drifted for 10 days and 10 nights. During the daytime, [we] saw large fish swimming along the boat the looked like sharks.” Then he went on to say that “at night they would see a light, perhaps from a passing ship or a nearby island, and many on board attempted to swim for it lest their boat drift in the wrong direction.” He said, “We saw many drowning, one by one, as the current was carrying them away and none of them had the energy left to swim.”

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In February 2009, a thousand Rohingya refugees fleeing to Thailand were sent back to Burma, whom the Thai authorities forcibly expelled.

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Myanmar conflict spurs hatred for Asia's outcasts

06-14) 05:24 PDT BANGKOK, Thailand (AP) --

They have been called ogres and animals, terrorists and much worse — when their existence is even acknowledged.

Asia's more than 1 million ethnic Rohingya Muslims are considered by rights groups to be among the most persecuted people on earth. Most live in a bizarre, 21st-century purgatory without passports, unable to travel freely or call any place home.

In Myanmar, shaken this week by a bloody spasm of violence involving Rohingyas that left dozens of civilians dead, they are almost universally despised. The military junta whose half-century of rule ended only last year cast the group as foreigners for decades — fueling a profound resentment now reflected in waves of vitriolic hatred that are being posted online.

"People feel it very acceptable to say that 'we will work on wiping out all the Rohingyas,'"
said Debbie Stothard, an activist with the Alternative ASEAN Network on Burma, referring to hyperbolic Internet comments she called "disturbing."

The Myanmar government regards Rohingyas mostly as illegal migrants from Bangladesh, despite the fact many of their families have lived in Myanmar for generations. Bangladesh rejects them just as stridently.

"This is the tragedy of being stateless," said Chris Lewa, who runs a non-governmental organization called the Arakan Project that advocates for the Rohingya cause worldwide.

"In Burma they're told they're illegals who should go back to Bangladesh. In Bangladesh, they're told they're Burmese who should go back home," Lewa said. "Unfortunately, they're just caught in the middle. They have been persecuted for decades, and it's only getting worse."

That fact was made painfully clear this week as Bangladeshi coast guard units turned back boatload after boatload of terrified Rohingya refugees trying to escape the latest violence in Myanmar's Rakhine state. Rohingyas have clashed with ethnic Rakhine Buddhists, and each side blames the other for the violence.

The boats were filled with women and children, and Bangladesh has defied international calls to let them in, saying the impoverished country's resources are already too strained.

A few have slipped through, however, including a month-old baby found Wednesday abandoned in a boat after its occupants fled border guards. Three other Rohingyas have been treated for gunshot wounds at a hospital in the Bangladeshi town of Chittagong, including one who died.

The unrest, which has seen more than 1,500 homes charred and thousands of people displaced along Myanmar's western coast, erupted after a mob dragged 10 Muslims off a bus and killed them in apparent retaliation for the rape and murder last month of a 27-year-old Buddhist woman, allegedly by Muslims.

On Thursday, Rakhine state was reportedly calm. But Rohingyas living there "very much feel like they're trapped in a box," said Phil Robertson of Human Rights Watch. "They're surrounded by enemies, and there is an extremely high level of frustration."

The grudges go back far. Bitterness against the Rohingya in Myanmar has roots in a complex web of issues: the fear that Muslims are encroaching illegally on scarce land in a predominantly Buddhist country; the fact that the Rohingya look different than other Burmese; an effort by the former junta to portray them as foreigners.

Across the border in Bangladesh, civilians — not the government — are more tolerant.
But even there, the Rohingya are largely unwanted because their presence in the overpopulated country only adds to competition for scarce resources and jobs.

Myanmar's government has the largest Rohingya population in the world: 800,000, according to the United Nations. Another 250,000 are in Bangladesh, and hundreds of thousands more are scattered around other parts of the world, primarily the Middle East.

Human Rights Watch and other independent advocacy groups say Rohingyas are routinely discriminated against. In Myanmar, they are regularly subjected to forced labor by the army, a humiliation not usually applied to ethnic Rakhine who inhabit the same area, Lewa said.

The Rohingya must get government permission to travel outside their own villages and even to marry. Apparently concerned about their numbers growing, authorities have also barred them from having more than two children.

In 1978, Myanmar's army drove more than 200,000 Rohingyas into Bangladesh, according to rights groups and the U.S. Campaign for Burma. Some 10,000 died in squalid conditions, and the rest returned to Myanmar. The campaign was repeated in 1991-1992, and again a majority returned.

The Rohingya last garnered world headlines in 2009, when five boatloads of haggard migrants fleeing Myanmar were intercepted by Thai authorities. Rights groups allege they were detained and beaten, then forced back to sea, emaciated and bloodied, in vessels with no engines and little food or water. Hundreds are believed to have drowned.

The same year, Myanmar's consul general in Hong Kong — now a U.N. ambassador — described the Rohingya as "ugly as ogres" in an open letter to diplomats in which he compared their "dark brown" skin to that of the "fair and soft" ethnic Burmese majority.

The latest unrest has focused fresh attention on the Rohingyas' plight, but it has also galvanized a virulent new strain of resentment.

Many Burmese have taken to the Internet to denounce the Rohingya as foreign invaders, with some comparing them to al-Qaida and the Taliban.

While vitriol has come from both sides, what makes the latest unrest unique is that virtually "the entire population is openly and completely against" them, said Sai Latt, a writer and Myanmar analyst studying at Canada's Simon Fraser University.

"We have heard of scholars, journalists, writers, celebrities, even the so-called democracy fighters openly making comments against Rohingyas," Sai Latt said.

One Burmese actress posted "I hate them 100%" on her Facebook wall on Monday as the fires burned. By Thursday, her comment had nearly 250 "likes."

Prominent Burmese language journals have reported "only the Rakhine side," Sai Latt said. And many people have lashed out at foreign media, accusing them of getting the story wrong.

Ko Ko Gyi, a prominent former political prisoner released in January, has said Rohingyas should not be mistreated but added they "are not an ethnic group in Myanmar at all." He blamed the recent violence on illegal migrants from Bangladesh.

However, the leader of the country's democracy movement, Aung San Suu Kyi, has shied away from the blame game, saying the problem should be tackled by fair application of the law.

Speaking in Geneva on a five-nation European tour, she said that "without rule of law, such communal strife will only continue.

"The present situation will need to be handled with delicacy and sensitivity," she told reporters.

The tide of nationalistic sentiment against the Rohingya puts Suu Kyi in a difficult position. Her conciliatory message risks alienating large blocs of supporters at a time when she and her National League for Democracy are trying to consolidate political gains attained after they entered Parliament for the first time in April.

The Rohingya speak a Bengali dialect similar to one spoken by residents of southern Bangladesh. And physically, they are almost indistinguishable from their Bangladeshi counterparts, said Lewa, of the Arakan Project.

But their history — specifically the amount of time they've lived in Myanmar, and who among them qualifies as a legitimate resident — is bitterly disputed.

Some say the Rohingya are descended from Arab settlers in the 7th century, and that their state was conquered by the Burmese in 1784. Later waves arrived from British-run colonial India in the 1800s, but like the colonists themselves, they were regarded as foreigners.

That view persisted through half a century of military rule, which finally ended last year. Myanmar's post-junta government does not recognize them as one of the country's 135 indigenous national ethnic groups. And many people stridently believe they are not even a real ethnic group — rather, they are only illegal migrants from Bangladesh.

President Thein Sein, who has instituted a state of emergency and sent in troops to contain the violence, has warned any escalation could jeopardize the nation's fragile democratic reforms.

The International Crisis Group said that ironically, the nation's newfound freedoms may have helped contribute to the unrest.

"The loosening of authoritarian constraints may well have enabled this current crisis to take on a virulent intensity," the group said. "It is not uncommon that when an authoritarian state loosens its grip, old angers flare up and spread fast."

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I looked at the comments section, and read the one written by Aung Myo Zaw. A very, very interesting piece of commentary.


I must say....intriguing! We must learn everything about them.

I must say that guy made some good points. I fully agree that we Burmese need to recognise our chauvanistic ways. However, Ko Aung Myo Zaw is clearly an Indian-Burmese. He is alluding to racism from the Burmese and talking about skin colour: not true. We do not discriminate on skin colour. We do not even discriminate those Indians and Chinese who have come to settle in Myanmar after the British conquest. But the Rohingya, for whatever reason, have been the exception. I personally think we have failed those Rohingya people somewhat but at the same time I stick to the point that this is not solely a Burmese problem.
 
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I looked at the comments section, and read the one written by Aung Myo Zaw. A very, very interesting piece of commentary.


I must say....intriguing! We must learn everything about them.

Quite an interesting piece.
 
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I must say that guy made some good points. I fully agree that we Burmese need to recognise our chauvanistic ways. However, Ko Aung Myo Zaw is clearly an Indian-Burmese. He is alluding to racism from the Burmese and talking about skin colour: not true. We do not discriminate on skin colour. We do not even discriminate those Indians and Chinese who have come to settle in Myanmar after the British conquest. But the Rohingya, for whatever reason, have been the exception. I personally think we have failed those Rohingya people somewhat but at the same time I stick to the point that this is not solely a Burmese problem.

What does him having Indian blood got to do with anything? How do you even know he's Indian? It just shows your ethnic/religious bias, if not bigotry.
 
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I looked at the comments section, and read the one written by Aung Myo Zaw. A very, very interesting piece of commentary.


I must say....intriguing! We must learn everything about them.

This is the thing I've been trying to say. One junta and its followers don't make the whole nation animal. Almost all bigots have followers, good or bad don't matter in fan following. Burmese president Thein Sein is supposed to be in Dhaka in July, now what's going to be main agenda during his visit, definitely this sectarian issue whereas there were some new dimensions of relationships in development like air communication between BD-Burma, the Chittagong-Kunming connection an old talk also would get some new light.
 
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This is the thing I've been trying to say. One junta and its followers don't make the whole nation animal. Almost all bigots have followers, good or bad don't matter in fan following. Burmese president Thein Sein is supposed to be in Dhaka in July, now what's going to be main agenda during his visit, definitely this sectarian issue whereas there were some new dimensions of relationships in development like air communication between BD-Burma, the Chittagong-Kunming connection an old talk also would get some new light.

I really hope they work out our issues.
 
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Rohingya's will be kicked out in phases, I am sure they have a secret plan and everything is going according to plan. If Bangladesh is cowardly nation, we should just let them in and make them our citizen and get some help from other countries through UN, OIC etc. I think Bangladesh as a country do not have the courage to face facts and deal with them, the result is this pathetic Rohingya situation. All other countries around Burma have helped their ethnic kin to fight insurgency war and as a result get concession from the Burman tribe led govt. Mao said one thing right, political power comes from the barrel of a gun.
 
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Rohingya's will be kicked out in phases, I am sure they have a secret plan and everything is going according to plan. If Bangladesh is cowardly nation, we should just let them in and make them our citizen and get some help from other countries through UN, OIC etc. I think Bangladesh as a country do not have the courage to face facts and deal with them, the result is this pathetic Rohingya situation. All other countries around Burma have helped their ethnic kin to fight insurgency war and as a result get concession from the Burman tribe led govt. Mao said one thing right, political power comes from the barrel of a gun.

Yes, by letting them(Rohingas) in would be playing into the Burmese hands. Burma wants all Rohinga out of their country and would love for them all to settle into Bangladesh.

However, you would need to consider the situation of Bangladesh versus that of others like China and Thailand. Forget China as that is so much more powerful than Burma it is not worth comparing
the two. Thailand is so much more developed than Burma that they had a lot of resources that they could throw at the issue. Thailand is currently nearly SIX times wealthier per capita than
Bangladesh.

A comparison of the airforces of Thailand and Burma shows an overwhelming Thai supremacy in the air.

Thailand has 56 F-16s, some are equipped with the AIM-120C AAM missile. It also has 6 Gripen and
they have 12 more on order.

In comparison. Burma has 32 Mig-29 fighters. Thailand has a much superior airforce to Burma.


What does Bangladesh have to face the 32 Burmese Mig-29s?


Just 8 Mig2-9s!!


Before you know it Burma will be bombing Chittagong if the situation escalates.



Once BD gets the 8 extra Mig-29M2s and if BD also gets the talked about 16 SU-30s then arming an insurgency will make theoretical sense militarily(but still not economically)
but that time is not now.
 
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The boy who raped the girl and started the riot is not rohingya, his parents are Rakhaine! Labong was crying on that point!
 
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The boy who raped the girl and started the riot is not rohingya, his parents are Rakhaine! Labong was crying on that point!
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Hey I don't care if he is Rohingya or Rakhine or Martians. All of them are alien races to me.

Anyway what's your source, badly composed youtube video by Jamati fanboys?
 
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