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The ony times when Pakistan's GDP grew relatively quickly after the 1971 split was in the 1980s and 2000s.

Both times Pakistan received many billions of US dollars.

Oh baby BD... US aid is not enough to fuel a economy. US aid is only 0.06 of our economy.

Besides, even right now Pakistan is recieving aid, is it groowing fast?
 
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WARNING! Maoist-NE terror groups' cocktail is disastrous
Last updated on: June 15, 2012 13:34 IST

Col Anil Bhat (Retd).
Maoist activities in Assam are likely to receive the support of the so-called anti-talks faction of the ULFA and if not nipped in the bud will spread to other states of the Northeast with support from other insurgent groups and international powers, warns Col Anil Bhat (Retd).

The latter part of May 2012 saw Assam gearing up security following the so-called anti-talks faction of United Liberation Front of Asom's 'welcome programme' for Congress president Sonia Gandhi's visit to the state.

Its call for a bandh and threats of unleashing terrorist violence were to make its presence felt and to show its strength, as the flow of funds to its coffers has been down owing to majority of the people receiving extortion demands from the outfit refusing to pay up.

While timely recovery of explosives may have foiled some earlier attempts to target oil pipelines and other installations, two disturbing trends have emerged. The first is of Maoists spreading to the Northeast. The second pertains to reports of many of the terrorist groups of the region re-uniting.

Holy cow!!
 
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I already told you that aid is not enough to fuel a economy... Aid is only about 0.06% of our economy.. Now shoo boy.

It should seen as the percentage of annual budget, not economy.
 
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WARNING! Maoist-NE terror groups' cocktail is disastrous - Rediff.com News

Supply of arms from China through Burma another concern
Last updated on: June 15, 2012 13:34 IST

In February this year, Rajeev Bhattacharyya, working for a Northeast media publication, spent a few days in an ULFA camp set up in Eastern Nagaland. The location was ideal in that it was contiguous to Nagaland and Manipur, was in close proximity to Myanmar, only a few days walk from Upper Assam and well connected by rivers and jungle pathways, making the delivery of weapons and supplies easy.

In that camp he witnessed a huge consignment of European 9mm pistols and HK33 assault rifles being delivered. Though Heckler and Koch do not make the HK33 anymore, variants of the rifle are produced under licence in some south Asian countries. Once the consignment was unpacked, young cadres test-fired the guns before putting them into storage.

Sources were cited that orders were being placed for the Chinese Type 81 rifles and the American M16 -- both in the price range of Rs 2 lakh to 3 lakh. Interestingly, "concessional rates" apply for bulk orders and the United Front benefits from slashed rates. Medicines, food and goods not available in Myanmar are smuggled in from China and Thailand.

Another ominously significant event he witnessed was a soccer match, in which Paresh Baruah's blue team comprising cadres from ULFA, the National Democratic Front of Bodoland (NDFB) and the NSCN-K played against the opposing blue team made up of Manipuri terrorist groups.

Paresh Baruah's open show of solidarity with China is also a cause of concern. An email statement sent to an Assam portal condemned anti-China moves from the soil of Asom, claimed "good diplomatic ties" with the People's Republic of China and ranted against Indian government 'secretly setting up nuclear missile bases in North East India, especially in Assam' which would be detrimental to Assamese interests.

With Bangladesh-based ULFA leaders having extended their connections to China, supply of arms from Yunan province of southern China through insurgents in Burma has become another new route. The security situation hence needs to be carefully monitored.



Image: Indian Army soldiers patrol in the forests of Manabhum along the Burma border
Photographs: Parth Sanyal/Reuters
 
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Pakistan has GDP of 200 billion... Burma has GDP of 60 billion, that's atleast 3x your economy...

Also BD has GDP of $110 billion, we are again 2x the size of BD's.

Even if you compare Pakistan's PPP with Myanmars and BD's, Pakistan is far by a long shot.. Even check out the per capita of Pakistan, Myanmar, and BD... Pakistan is the winner...

We are in G-20 developing nations.

Well, I would have hoped that a nuclear power had a larger economy than a country that's been in a 50 year timewarp.
 
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WARNING! Maoist-NE terror groups' cocktail is disastrous - Rediff.com News

Another major development is that of insurgent attempts at unity by bringing together fourteen terrorist groups of the region. An agreement was signed by them in 2011 to form yet another joint forum which they claim is already in place, but not yet been given a new name and will be different from similar efforts in the past.

ULFA, NSCN-K and PLA of Manipur have played a crucial role in forming this group, which includes United National Liberation Front, the three factions of People's Republican Party of Kangleipak (Prepak), the Noyon group of Kangelipak Communist Party (KCP), Kanglei Yawol Kanna Lup (KYKL), National Liberation Front of Tripura (NLFT), All Tripura Tigers' Force (ATTF), Hynniewtrep National Liberation Council (HNLC) and Garo National Liberation Army (GNLA).

The outfits will coordinate their activities and share information on operations and sources of weapons. Many of these groups have been supported by the ISI and also by China.


If this comes about, its neutralising would impose new challenges especially if there are also linkages with the Maoists. External support from China and the ISI will further muddy the waters and would necessitate a complete makeover of state and central police if the army is to be kept out of the ambit.

This will involve substantially increasing the numbers of the force, providing it good training at institutes like Counter Insurgency and Jungle Warfare School at Vairengte, Mizoram, providing better weapons, communications and mobility and most important, dynamic leadership. Even if all this is achieved, political will to disregard political connections and vote-bank interests will be needed to strike at the roots of these terrorist groups.

Image: A Naga rebel stands guard at the Hebron Camp in Nagaland
Photographs: Adnan Abidi/Reuters
 
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Did you not bother reading my earlier post?

BD lost decades of development due to it being part of Pakistan.

It's GDP has been growing at around 6% a year since 2000 and it could well hit an average of 7% this decade.

Yes, BD is a poor country but it is at least going in the correct direction.

The excuses don't matter. I was just shocked that after hearing nothing but good things about Bangladesh for the past 10 years, your per-capita GDP was below that of my own ****-hole of a country. That tells me that BD has a very large problems.
 
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The excuses don't matter. I was just shocked that after hearing nothing but good things about Bangladesh for the past 10 years, your per-capita GDP was below that of my own ****-hole of a country. That tells me that BD has a very large problems.

Apart from very few select city states like Hong Kong and Macau, please name me one country on the planet that has prospered under colonisation?

You are just trolling now.

Really waste of time engaging with you.
 
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Apart from very few select city states like Hong Kong and Macau, please name me one country on the planet that has prospered under colonisation?

You are just trolling now.

Really waste of time engaging with you.

I'm honestly not 'trolling' here. Bangladesh really has serious problems.
 
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Maoists expanding influence, says Assam chief minister - Rediff.com India News

Maoists expanding influence, says Assam chief minister
May 11, 2012 16:54 IST

Two days after four Maoist leaders were killed in Sadiya in eastern Assam bordering Arunachal Pradesh in first ever major operation against Maoists in the state, Chief Minister Tarun Gogoi on Friday said that the Maoists have already set up bases in all upper Assam districts and were expanding towards other parts of the state.

"Maoists have been setting base in the state for long and the state government has been maintaining that they are entering the state under various guises. The Centre too has also now accepted that the Maoists menace has extended to Assam also," the chief minister added.

Referring to Wednesday's encounter of four Maoists rebels in upper Assam, Gogoi said it had proved once again that the state government was correct in claiming that Maoists had spread their tentacles to the state.

He maintained that militant groups of North East, including the United Liberation Front of Asom and Nationalist Socialist Council of Nagaland-IM, were coordinating closely and also helping the Maoists. "These militants are coming together now as their strength has diminished," he added.

The chief minister pointed that the anti-talks faction of the ULFA had on Tuesday spoke out in support of the Maoists, while reports stated that the NSCN-IM was training Maoists militants.

He, however, refused to quote any figure on the present strength of Maoists in the state and said, "They are expanding their activities and we are alert on it," he said.

The chief minister also maintained that the NCTC could be helpful in tackling the further spread of this problem, though he stressed on the involved of the state in all counter-insurgency activities.
 
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Apart from very few select city states like Hong Kong and Macau, please name me one country on the planet that has prospered under colonisation?

You are just trolling now.

Really waste of time engaging with you.

Malaysia did well too. America was also one under the British.

It is not because of colonialism, it is because of our leaders who mismanage the country's resources. And they won't go down without a fight :rofl:
 
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WARNING! Maoist-NE terror groups' cocktail is disastrous - Rediff.com News

Both Union Home Minister P Chidambaram and Assam Chief Minister Tarun Gogoi have acknowledged the fact that Maoists are making inroads into the region. Addressing the chief ministers' conference on internal security on April 16, Chidambaram stated that Assam had emerged as the new theatre of Maoist activity and there were also inputs about links of CPI (Maoist) with insurgent-turned-terrorist groups in Manipur and Arunachal Pradesh.

Again on May 12, while on a tour of Arunachal Pradesh, he stated, "There will be no compromise with the Maoists trying to destabilise peace in the region and police have been instructed to take stern action. The Centre was alive to the situation created by such groups in the region and was taking concrete steps to curb them".

Reports indicate that the Maoists have received arms, ammunition, explosives and other equipment as well as training by the Northeastern groups. By late 2009, it is believed that consignments of weapons by arrangement with China amounting to 850 AK-47 rifles, 4,000 small weapons and several hundred grenades, were supplied to the Maoists through Burma and Bangladesh by an elaborate network run in the Northeast by the National Socialist Council of Nagaland (Isak-Muivah).

The arrest on April 8 by the National Investigating Agency of Arnold Singh alias Bekon, a hard core member of the Chinese Peoples Liberation Army points to linkages between the Maoists and the PLA.

As per official sources, Arnold had led a four member team of the PLA to Jharkhand where they imparted training to several batches of Maoist rebels. This also indicates attempts at outreach by Northeast terrorist groups well away from their respective states. The PLA of Manipur has major links with Pakistan's Inter-Services Intelligence in Bangladesh and also has bases in a number of Northeastern states too.

On May 9, Assam police claimed to have killed four unidentified Maoists activists in an encounter at Deopani Borgora Nepali Gaon near Buraburhi Than under Chapakhowa police station of Sadiya in Tinsukia district. Police recovered two AK-47 rifles, one AK-56 rifle, 3 live grenades, 53 rounds of live ammunition, a detonator and several extortion demand notes from them.

While this operation by Assam police was successful, it exposes only a tip of the iceberg. The fact that there are ethnic Assamese being identified as Maoists means that the process of recruiting Assamese into their organisation has progressed.

Chief Minister Gogoi is reported to have directed top state officials to immediately prepare an action plan for setting up a task force to contain increasing Maoist activities. This would be formed under an additional director general of police to contain Maoist activities and counterfeit currency racket in the state.

"Maoist activities" in Assam are likely to receive the support of the so-called anti-talks faction of the ULFA and if not nipped in the bud will spread to other states of the Northeast with support from other insurgent groups.

Image: Home Minister P Chidambaram
Photographs: Courtesy: PIB

Malaysia did well too. America was also one under the British.

It is not because of colonialism, it is because of our leaders who mismanage the country's resources. And they won't go down without a fight :rofl:

UKBengali's point is correct, colonialism is the main reason for the destruction of our sovereign leadership that developed between 1200-1757, but was destroyed under British-Brahman rule. Caste Hindu took up the 2nd rung and exacted revenge on Muslim Bengali leadership during 1757-1947, marginalizing them. This kind of situation did not exist in Malaysia or USA.

May be I should create a thread called GDP comparison between Burma and south asian countries?
 
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Why is Sri Lanka beating everyone in per-capita GDP then? Why is Vietnam doing so well? Not only were they colonised but they had to fight off an American invasion. Malaysia, Indonesia, Ghana... all colonised but doing pretty well. You can't use colonialism as an excuse forever; bearing in mind that Myanmar too was colonised (though admittedly for a shorter period of time than Bangladesh).
 
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UKBengali's point is correct, colonialism is the main reason for the destruction of our sovereign leadership that developed between 1200-1757, but was destroyed under British-Brahman rule. Caste Hindu took up the 2nd rung and exacted revenge on Muslim Bengali leadership during 1757-1947, marginalizing them. This kind of situation did not exist in Malaysia or USA.

Do you realize how long ago that was?

Bangladesh had existed for 40+ years. If its leaders managed the country's resources and politics better, it would have gotten very far compared to now. Even more than India. And better if those cowards had not massacred our think tanks back in 71'.

But enough about the past. Best not to go against something that is inevitable.
 
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