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Building a new ‘Mandar’ in Riyasat-e-Madina is against the spirit of Islam: Ch Pervaiz Elahi

We are required to follow the conduct of Holy Prophet(P.B.U.H) and His Shabah R.A and not of mughals and other rulers who did mistakes and there is no instructions in Islam to follow their conduct
Ur wrong.minorities have right to practice their religion.n ur quoting about fateh e makkah... Makkah is were a muslim site ,mushriqs placed idols there.thats why it was ordered to remove them.
Every minority has Rights in Islam
Hope u understand
 
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In Arab countries for hundred of years there was no mandir until in recent years when uae build it and many on this pdf who are now supporting mandir in Islamabad were criticizing uae on this act
In arab world there is hundreds of churchs for christians and jews places n for other minorities.
If any minority demands a place for worship and there they hve a reasonable population Islam allows them.
My father gaved land for 2 masjids n one for Church as the local Christians dnt hve any place.n am proud for wht he did and land for girls primary school in the 70's.

We should also remember non muslims ahle kitab was allowed by Prophet p.b.u.h to worship in the same place
 
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the problem is not with other religions which were revealed on Prophets(P.B.U.H) and jews/christans situation is different from idol worshipers
In arab world there is hundreds of churchs for christians and jews places n for other minorities.
If any minority demands a place for worship and there they hve a reasonable population Islam allows them.
My father gaved land for 2 masjids n one for Church as the local Christians dnt hve any place.n am proud for wht he did and land for girls primary school in the 70's.

We should also remember non muslims ahle kitab was allowed by Prophet p.b.u.h to worship in the same place
 
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If any minority demands a place for worship and there they hve a reasonable population Islam allows them.
Its really sad that this has to be told. Islam has been under the grip of this vicious and lunatic heathenism for a generation or two that a sizeable population cannot comprehend that non Muslims have a right to life, dignity and well being.
 
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Can you provide evidence to backup your opinion? Which hadith states this?

@Yaseen1 is correct in what he says. Only Ahlul Bayt religions are acceptable in a true Islamic state based on Fiqh.

Our ancestors Mughals, etc. made the ijtihad that Hindus should be considered Ahlul Kitab.

This is an issue for scholars and not laymen. Therefore I won't delve deeper.

The problem is not with what he, Yaseen, is saying, but what is the reality of Pakistan as a nation. Currently we are a secular state which guarantees freedom of religion.

Before the issue of idol worship temples, the major issue needs to be resolved: will Pakistan function on its British common law which gives token service to Islam, or will we own our history and civilization to become the genuine Islamic state which we were founded to be?

have read - cannot trace it in a hurry - that Hazrat Mohammed stipulated to his followers that they should not allow any house of worship within the land of Arabia. That, to me, implies that he was indifferent about their doing so outside Arabia.

So now you are teaching Islam and passing judgment on religiosity of Muslims?

Mufti Joe Shaerer, hanging your turban next to your idols.

Please stay out of discussions on Islam.

@Starlord Great post, but request you not to allow others to usurp your points for their own purposes.
 
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100 years ago when muslims were in minority in subcontinent, They were crying for equal rights and separate land. Long live the British they did justice and gave you your right. Now they are in majority and cant even tolerate a single mandir in their capital city, hypocrites of highest order. Now we non muslims cant hold high places in government offices. Can't be a prime minister, president or a army chief.
What non muslims of this country Pakistan(the land of pure) must do now? Call for ..............
 
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the problem is not with other religions which were revealed on Prophets(P.B.U.H) and jews/christans situation is different from idol worshipers
Idol worshipping r what ever...they do shirik...go and consult with Ulema.
May u have better understanding
 
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Now they are in majority and cant even tolerate a single mandir in their capital city,
Its not an Islamic country's govt's job to build butt kadas with public funds.

People must have the freedom to worship and they can build their mandirs with their own money.

The mandir in question is being built with public funds.


Our ancestors Mughals, etc. made the ijtihad that Hindus should be considered Ahlul Kitab.

This is an issue for scholars and not laymen. Therefore I won't delve deeper.
Many scholars allow building of places of worship other than ahl e kitab however there is a consensus that it is un Islamic to allocate public funds for construction of such places of worship.

The problem here and in several other mandir building/restoration projects is that they are funded by the state and not by the minority community.
 
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It it not permissible to build any of places of worship of nonbelievers and specially with state's money . As in Surah Almaaida, Verse 2 :
وَتَعَاوَنُوا عَلَى الْبِرِّ وَالتَّقْوَىٰ ۖ وَلَا تَعَاوَنُوا عَلَى الْإِثْمِ وَالْعُدْوَانِ

Translation :"And cooperate in righteousness and piety, but do not cooperate in sin and aggression"
 
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Its not an Islamic country's govt's job to build butt kadas with public funds.

People must have the freedom to worship and they can build their mandirs with their own money.

The mandir in question is being built with public funds.



Many scholars allow building of places of worship other than ahl e kitab however there is a consensus that it is un Islamic to allocate public funds for construction of such places of worship.

The problem here and in several other mandir building/restoration projects is that they are funded by the state and not by the minority community.

You made total sense with this post, thanks. Not sure why public funds are being used to build a Hindu temple. Let hindus build their temples with their own private funds. Using the funds taken from Muslims to build a temple is very bad taste.
 
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Reading the answers on this thread, it feels we are no better than RSS
 
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You made total sense with this post, thanks. Not sure why public funds are being used to build a Hindu temple.
Because IK and his expat advisors are image conscious. They harbor this erroneous belief that by being secular they will become a blue eyed boy of the West. They want to turn this country into a secular state but fail to realise that even the secular West doesn't bother to indulge in gimmicks like that. They are so ill read, daft and imprudent that they think that Pakistan's problems will magically disappear if it becomes a secular state.

Take the example of his ignorant information minister Fawad Chaudry who thinks that it is a gift of modern science that it accurately predicts lunar months in advance; whereas lunar tables exist from they days of Ptolemy and were perfected by Muslim astronomers of the medieval era. But to meddle in religious matters (despite being unqualified to do so) is what they think is their responsibility.
 
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“You are free; you are free to go to your temples. You are free to go to your mosques or to any other places of worship in this State of Pakistan. You may belong to any religion, caste or creed—that has nothing to do with the business of the state.” - Muhammad Ali Jinnah
Interestingly that last part of no business of the state is the only valid opposition to the building of this site. IMO it would follow that building a temple is no big deal, especially given this is good PR to promote a tolerant image of Pakistan and interfaith harmony.
 
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no one in world care when any Mosque is bombed as world powers also do this when they carryout air attacks on Muslim countries but when any nonMuslim place of worship is attacked it is highlighted and criticized more in western media,the location of this mandir is not right as many schools ,colleges and offices as well as sunday market is located in H-9 and already traffic problems are high which will become more worse and result in more pain to ordinary public

Why are you mentioning world powers when it comes to the internal matter of Pakistan? Are Pakistani Hindus Pakistanis or are they foreign invaders?

Mosques getting attacked anywhere else is wrong, no one is saying otherwise. There is no reason to bring this up, it's not the Pakistani Hindus who are attacking any mosques.

As for bringing negative media spotlight, this is the most ridiculous reasoning for stopping the construction of a temple. If you think every negative thing can happen because it's a probability, then next time please don't come out of your house, as something bad (god forbid) might happen. You know, actually don't come out of your bed in the morning, what if you trip and fall over and hurt yourself. (Again, God forbid). Do you see how ridiculous you sound?

As for traffic, please tell me why you don't use the same reasoning when it comes to the constructions of mosques in Pakistan. Come take a walk with me in any major city in Pakistan near a mosque, and I'll show you major traffic congestion and parking issues. If we use the same logic, these mosques shouldn't exist.
 
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