BSF Assistant Commander killed on LOC

[Osiris]

Give me Proofs for that from non-biased sources .
Kargil was another example of Humiliation for your army , we can surprise you every time .

Proof of what? That Pakistan first captured empty posts of Kargil and then lost them?

 

[Pakistani sipahi]

Proof of what? That Pakistan first captured empty posts of Kargil and then lost them?

didn't lost them dude were emptied due to international pressure . you didn't have guts to take them back .
correct your facts .

 

[undercover JIX]

Indian dominance???
Chacha bippin kahan hai har roz bayaan bazi karta hai, randi rona laga kay rakhta hai, Army Chief na hua muhallay ka khusra jis ko koi ghaas nahi dalta....

 

[Osiris]

didn't lost them dude were emptied due to international pressure . you didn't have guts to take them back .
correct your facts .

What international pressure ? After initial set backs to Indian army, you were loosing peak after peak to them.

In your desperation for a face saving exit from Kargil, your prime minister had fly to US on 4th July long weekend and tried to barter a deal for talks on Kashmir in exchange for vacating Kargil. Which was rejected by India.

There was no International pressure, it was pressure from your army that forced you to go to US, , which did not want to end another war with another humiliating defeat. Hence you had to withdraw from the remaining peaks, even after, India rejected all your preconditions for ending the war.

 

[Pakistani sipahi]

What international pressure ? After initial set backs to Indian army, you were loosing peak after peak to them.

In your desperation for a face saving exit from Kargil, your prime minister had fly to US on 4th July long weekend and tried to barter a deal for talks on Kashmir in exchange for vacating Kargil. Which was rejected by India.

There was no International pressure, it was pressure from your army that forced you to go to US, , which did not want to end another war with another humiliating defeat. Hence you had to withdraw from the remaining peaks, even after, India rejected all your preconditions for ending the war.

Anyhow we are getting off topic but your post deserves a reply ,We accept the political defeat we faced but militarily admit you lost in every aspect of warfare . Intelligence failure , Military casualties , Humiliation even with far more numbers and power you couldn't take back posts .

For your information we still retain some crucial posts captured at that time which will prove game changers in future conflict.

 

[Osiris]

Anyhow we are getting off topic but your post deserves a reply ,We accept the political defeat we faced but militarily admit you lost in every aspect of warfare . Intelligence failure , Military casualties , Humiliation even with far more numbers and power you couldn't take back posts .

For your information we still retain some crucial posts captured at that time which will prove game changers in future conflict.

Except intelligence failure, to detect Pakistani troop movements in Kargil, which aspect of Kargil, did India loose.

After India army acclimatized, Pakistani positions started falling like ducks in row, even though Pakistan army occupied the higher ground, which is what, forced Pakistan to seek a face saving exit( even though Pakistan was not given one, and they withdrew nonetheless.)

As far as military casualties are concerned, even if we ignore, your prime ministers claims(of over 4000 Pakistanis killed) and just follow the neutral sources, As per US department of State - India lost 527 soldiers and Pakistan over 700 men.

 

[Cuirassier]

Except intelligence failure, to detect Pakistani troop movements in Kargil, which aspect of Kargil, did India loose.

After India army acclimatized, Pakistani positions started falling like ducks in row, even though Pakistan army occupied the higher ground, which is what, forced Pakistan to seek a face saving exit( even though Pakistan was not given one, and they withdrew nonetheless.)

As far as military casualties are concerned, even if we ignore, your prime ministers claims(of over 4000 Pakistanis killed) and just follow the neutral sources, As per US department of State - India lost 527 soldiers and Pakistan over 700 men.

Lol, follow own claims you twat, 527 vs 453. India lost 2 fighter jets and an armed helicopter as well.

 

[Bossman]

Bro we lost the entire NLI,

And your source? Are you talking of an entire platoon, company, brigade, regiment?

 

[Kamikaze Pilot]

Bro we lost the entire NLI,

How do you know? Do you have any relative or friend or friend's relative who served in Kargil war?

 

[Sully3]

all i know is Indians no suprise back stabbed us after US mentioned safe passage for Pak forces retreating back under cease fire.

Once the retreat started Indians started killing the soldiers returning back to Pak LOC under ceasefire.

As usual Indians the land of snake charmers lied to US and USA about the safe passage. I guess saving grace for India after being utterly humiliated by General Mushraf.

Also Nawaz Sharrif the coward should have put on the death penlity for his role and cowardness. the General had big plans but Nawaz was too scared and a coward to liberate Kashmir.

 

[Osiris]

Lol, follow own claims you twat, 527 vs 453. India lost 2 fighter jets and an armed helicopter as well.

Here are Pakistani KIA figures, emanating from Pakistan.

1) 4000 - Prime minister of Pakistan.
2) 357 - Chief of Army staff - Pakistan army
3) 453 - Pakistan army official website.
4) 3000 - PMLN official white paper
5) Thousands - Pakistan's main opposition party

So whom should we believe ?

Hence I have taken most conservative estimates from a neutral source(US state department) as reference and not even Indian armys claim of 1042 Pakistan killed.

all i know is Indians no suprise back stabbed us after US mentioned safe passage for Pak forces retreating back under cease fire.

Once the retreat started Indians started killing the soldiers returning back to Pak LOC under ceasefire.

As usual Indians the land of snake charmers lied to US and USA about the safe passage. I guess saving grace for India after being utterly humiliated by General Mushraf.

Also Nawaz Sharrif the coward should have put on the death penlity for his role and cowardness. the General had big plans but Nawaz was too scared and a coward to liberate Kashmir.

What safe passage??

Where did you read about this bull, that India agreed to grant safe passage to Pakistani troops, who were occupying Indian territory ?

 

[Sully3]

What safe passage??

Where did you read about this bull, that India agreed to grant safe passage to Pakistani troops, who were occupying Indian territory ?

it was the deal brokered by Clinton in Washington. Pak would retreat back to its controlled LOC from Indian terroitory it had taken over under cease fire. Indian lied and killed soldiers retreating back once the war was finished.

Of course you in India would never hear this as its doesnt suit the army or goverments agenda making itself look big and powerful. Truth is India got caught with its pants down by Genral Mushraf who if had the political backing from a coward like Nawaz would have taken over majority of IOK

 

[Osiris]

it was the deal brokered by Clinton in Washington. Pak would retreat back to its controlled LOC from Indian terroitory it had taken over under cease fire. Indian lied and killed soldiers retreating back once the war was finished.

Of course you in India would never hear this as its doesnt suit the army or goverments agenda making itself look big and powerful. Truth is India got caught with its pants down by Genral Mushraf who if had the political backing from a coward like Nawaz would have taken over majority of IOK

I am sure, you personally were not present, when Nawaz Sharif and Clinton met.

So why don't you show us the source, where you came across this granting "safe passage" crap, you told us.

 

[Sully3]

I am sure, you personally were not present, when Nawaz Sharif and Clinton met.

So why don't you show us the source, where you came across this granting "safe passage" crap, you told us.

still waiting on the source/proff of Modis surgical strikes.

shame we cant all get what we want though.

 

[Osiris]

still waiting on the source/proff of Modis surgical strikes.

shame we cant all get what we want though.

So you can't produce, even a single source(even a Pakistani one would do), to support your bull crap story, about India agreeing to provide safe passage to Pakistani soldiers in Kargil.

In that case, why don't you, sod off.