Breaking the Myth at PDF : India vs China - Neutral Analysis ( if it comes to war )

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

Actually the iaf shot down 2 F-16s on the 27/02/2019.

Why just 2?

At this rate they might as well claim that they shot down all of them, and the PAF is now just flying Mushak trainers disguised as F-16's.

 

[kankan326]

Do you know that Kennedy was ready to Nuke China ( for India ) in 62 ? Ever Questioned Why ?

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...uclear-bomb-on-china-tapes-reveal-308341.html

Did u ever asked how and Why India Liberated BD, despite facing US' 6th Fleet ?

Wakeup, its not 1962 anymore. Even 1967 was far far different than 1962.

America only helps those who are incapable. Nothing about justice.

The gap between Inda and China now is much larger than 1962.

 

[xeuss]

No sensible country can afford a war. That said China has more money and probably a better equipped Army. The Chinese planes are untested. So not sure where the AF stands. India has a better Navy.

The actual questions never get asked among all this chest thumping.

Did Indian intelligence know of the Chinese buildup and incursions? Judging by the press accounts, everything India is doing is in response to Chinese moves.

 

[AfrazulMandal]

The actual questions never get asked among all this chest thumping.

Did Indian intelligence know of the Chinese buildup and incursions? Judging by the press accounts, everything India is doing is in response to Chinese moves.

They were busy preparing the false flag ops.

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

Why just 2?

At this rate they might as well claim that they shot down all of them, and the PAF is now just flying Mushak trainers disguised as F-16's.

They actually shot down 5 F-16s but as the iaf is the world's most advanced Air force, they want on to decimate the entire American Air force just for fun. india is the universe's biggest cosmic hyper power. Even Darth Vader is scared of the indian military. By the way, indians invented the internet 10,000 years ago:

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/wor...net-thousands-of-years-ago-1.3467467?mode=amp

 

[Chanakyaa]

America only helps those who are incapable. Nothing about justice.

The gap between Inda and China now is much larger than 1962.

Then Why Trump is helping india in 2020 ?
Are you drunk? The Gap is far Far Narrow than 1962.

Hint : Nukes, ICBMs, Anti Sats, Spy Sats, Nuclear Subs, Carriers, Supersonic Missiles. Name one weapon that India doesn't have ?

The real gap is 3 trillion vs 12 Trillion Economy. And that makes things worse for china. you have far more to loose.

 

[waz]

My Point was, You need to be patient for a few years for the REAL truth of MKI or the F16 or Both ( even the FAKE Surgical Strikes ) to be revealed.

We dont just have the Data.

That point would be credible had this been the situation 20 years ago. We now live in the most information rich age of all time, where the people themselves have become news hubs. You simply can't hide things anymore and such an event, which had numerous observers on the ground (see videos) would have broken any such news of an aircraft going down.
The fact remains that one Mig-21 went down, there is no evidence from any source that there were more.

 

[MayaBazar]

The actual questions never get asked among all this chest thumping.

Did Indian intelligence know of the Chinese buildup and incursions? Judging by the press accounts, everything India is doing is in response to Chinese moves.

India knew and was in talks with China before the news became public.

Neither India nor China were happy when the news came out.

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

The actual questions never get asked among all this chest thumping.

Did Indian intelligence know of the Chinese buildup and incursions? Judging by the press accounts, everything India is doing is in response to Chinese moves.

Makes no difference. China is a global superpower and india is one of the most impoverished nations on earth. india can't do anything about China. They can't mess with them. Simple as.

 

[xeuss]

Then Why Trump is helping india in 2020 ?
Are you drunk? The Gap is far Far Narrow than 1962.

Hint : Nukes, ICBMs, Anti Sats, Spy Sats, Nuclear Subs, Carriers, Supersonic Missiles. Name one weapon that India doesn't have ?

Yaar...don't ask such questions that gives an opportunity...some Pakistani may respond with "balls"

 

[Chanakyaa]

That point would be credible had this been the situation 20 years ago. We now live in the most information rich age of all time, where the people themselves have become news hubs. You simply can't hide things anymore and such an event, which had numerous observers on the ground (see videos) would have broken any such news of an aircraft going down.
The fact remains that one Mig-21 went down, there is no evidence from any source that there were more.

The fact also remains that on 26th, India went deep inside Pakistan ( and killed some crows ).
The fact also remains that While India DID retaliate when Pakistan attacked on 27 ( and lost Abhinandan ), PAF couldnt do ANYTHING on 26 !

Violation of AirSpace was on both Sides.

on 26 > India Invades Pakistan > PAF does Nothing
on 27 > Pakistan Invades India > IAF retaliates > Looses Pilot

I for one, believe NO F16 was Lost. While we did loose a Mig 21.
I firmly believe NO MKI was Lost for the very same reason. NO EVIDENCE.

Let me make this VERY Clear.

IAF Loosing a Pilot/Plane on 27 ( while Actively being Able to Retaliate ) Vs PAF Unable to Retaliate on 26

Thats the Picture we see in India. And We have no issues if we loose soldier/pilots while defending the Land.

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

Then Why Trump is helping india in 2020 ?
Are you drunk? The Gap is far Far Narrow than 1962.

Hint : Nukes, ICBMs, Anti Sats, Spy Sats, Nuclear Subs, Carriers, Supersonic Missiles. Name one weapon that India doesn't have ?

The real gap is 3 trillion vs 12 Trillion Economy. And that makes things worse for china. you have far more to loose.

Because China has none of those and the indian versions are more advanced.......

 

[Joe Shearer]

If the IAF has the same views about what occurred during and after Balakot as you, then it's not the PAF that is going to be decimated in the next war.

In any case - there are plenty of existing discussions about the events around Balakot, many in which I note that you've participated and yet, somehow, have managed to not disabuse yourself of the views in your quoted post.

No point in hijacking this thread. You want to believe in simplistic analysis and comparisons, go right ahead.

There is no doubt that the Indian military is a work in progress at the moment, in transition to several significant changes in outlook and structure and organisation, and even in the tactics and strategy that are coming into consideration. There is also no doubt that this will be the significant theatre for India in the next fifty years, and not the Pakistani theatre.

It is unlikely that the Indian military will ignore every signal that it gets demanding that it re-examine its way of making war, and it is likely that there will changes. What these ought to be should be the discussion matter of this thread; it will be a shame to allow it to degenerate into yet another Indo-Pakistani slanging match.

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

Then Why Trump is helping india in 2020 ?
Are you drunk? The Gap is far Far Narrow than 1962.

Hint : Nukes, ICBMs, Anti Sats, Spy Sats, Nuclear Subs, Carriers, Supersonic Missiles. Name one weapon that India doesn't have ?

The real gap is 3 trillion vs 12 Trillion Economy. And that makes things worse for china. you have far more to loose.

In 1962, india was ahead of China thanks to the goodies left behind after the British Raj. Yet China still smashed, defeated and vanquished india. In 2020, China is a global superpower set to become the world's FIRST EVER Global hyper power wheras india is one of the most impoverished nations on earth that has NEVER EVER invented, created or has the ability to produce ANY advanced Sciences or Technologies themselves. In fact the reality is that there is more chance of Pakistan beating america in a war than there is of india beating China.

 

[Shah_G]

IAF leadership may have faults of its own but that doesn't mean the PAF is better that the IAF. Again Feb 27 was no extraordinary feat for you as you brought down a lone bison with numerical superiority and even lost one of your own. It's same like we once shot down your atlantique aircraft. We made no noise unlike you.



Those must be ispr statistics, and you couldn't do **** against the su, apart from wasting a couple of bvr missiles.

I doubt it it’s ISPR. If you are dumb enough not to find it on internet it ain’t my fault. But don’t come out here with Brain farts. Come out with facts and speak based on facts.