Breaking the Myth at PDF : India vs China - Neutral Analysis ( if it comes to war )

[waz]

IAF leadership may have faults of its own but that doesn't mean the PAF is better that the IAF. Again Feb 27 was no extraordinary feat for you as you brought down a lone bison with numerical superiority and even lost one of your own. It's same like we once shot down your atlantique aircraft. We made no noise unlike you.

More denial, you lost an air battle full stop! The Bison is a capable plane as I clearly proved from expert analysis. Numerical superiority? Have you seen the size of the IAF? Whose fault was it that you couldn't put up the planes on that day? Here's a clue, your own! Also I do recall many Indian 'experts' saying that the flankers and mirage jets can engage multiple aircraft, so what was the issue?
The PAF lost nothing on that day and it's been proved by experts the world over, only your idiot media trumpeted that, whilst the world laughed at you.

I can't believe you compared the atlantique to the Mig-21, that naval jet had no way of defending itself against an IAF opponent. The MIG-21 is a potent air-air platform. The two incidents are not even remotely comparable.

 

[Chanakyaa]

More denial, you lost an air battle full stop! The Bison is a capable plane as I clearly proved from expert analysis. Numerical superiority? Have you seen the size of the IAF? Whose fault was it that you couldn't put up the planes on that day? Here's a clue, your own! The PAF lost nothing on that day and it's been proved by experts the world over, only your idiot media trumpeted that, whilst the world laughed at you.

I can't believe you compared the atlantique to the Mig-21, that naval jet had no way of defending itself against an IAF opponent. The MIG-21 is a potent air-air platform. The two incidents are not even remotely comparable.

What was you age in 1999 ?

 

[waz]

What was you age in 1999 ?

Huh?
You want to know how old I was?

What was you age in 1999 ?

22, and yes I followed events carefully that day.

 

[Fawadqasim1]

most of the purported Chinese disadvantages in this video can be rectified by two three weeks of preparation before war and he did not add the Pakistan factor so the results can be drastically different from what binkove is expecting

 

[Chanakyaa]

Huh?
You want to know how old I was?



22, and yes I followed events carefully that day.

Do you remember the Change from This : ( It took 10 Years for the TRUTH to be Revealed ).

To This :

 

[kankan326]

Comprehension Issues ?

The Video Posted by an Indian ( me ) whose conclusion is China has "Marginal" Victory ( If No nukes involved ). India gets "Marginally" Defeated. Period.

In Effect, I ( as an Indian ) Agree that India is far weaker than China, no comparison, but War is about situations ( Hint : Vietnam or 1967, Sikkim ) .

China will gain overwhelming victory because China is a highly organized couontry. Check out how China acted during the pandemic time. India can not compete with China in social structure.

 

[Chanakyaa]

China will gain overwhelming victory because China is a highly organized couontry. Check out how China acted during the pandemic time. India can not compete with with China in social structure.

Do you know that Kennedy was ready to Nuke China ( for India ) in 62 ? Ever Questioned Why ?

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...uclear-bomb-on-china-tapes-reveal-308341.html

Did u ever asked how and Why India Liberated BD, despite facing US' 6th Fleet ?

Wakeup, its not 1962 anymore. Even 1967 was far far different than 1962.

 

[Jackdaws]

No sensible country can afford a war. That said China has more money and probably a better equipped Army. The Chinese planes are untested. So not sure where the AF stands. India has a better Navy.

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

In a full blown war PAF will be decimated. Just an insignificant skirmish where numerically superior PAF brought down an old Mig 21 was by no means an extraordinary feat. You base your conclusion on that and the results for you will be the same as the history shows us.



The last war the the Chinese fought was in 1979 when they got their a**** kicked by the Viets, since then their glorious people's liberation army has only killed unarmed protesters. It's time we liberate Tibet and even Chinese masses from the tyrrany of the evil ccp and send emperor pingping and his commie thugs to their own concentration camps.

Sure it will and you have provided so much evidence to prove it........................but hold on, wasn't the iaf supposed to have decimated the PAF on 27/02/2019??????................

 

[waz]

Do you remember the Change from This : ( It took 10 Years for the TRUTH to be Revealed ).

To This :

Yes, and the errors in Kargil have been discussed a thousand times over on here. This is nothing new nor does it have anything to do with what I've been discussing.

 

[pakpride00090]

This is a Must Watch fr all Strategic Thinkers / Learners.

Two giant armies go head to head in this hypothetical war video. How would the conflict unfold? Who would win, and by how much? Which side has more forces at the border? Which has the technological edge? Watch the video and find out!​

Such low quality post. Bet a guy on PDF can make a better analysis than these amateurs.

 

[Chanakyaa]

Such low quality post. Bet a guy on PDF can make a better analysis than these amateurs.

Should I believe you or the Mod ?

His videos have been picked apart on numerous military forums, other than this one. He's about as qualified as any of the knowledgable posters here, regardless of nationality.
As for the video, let's take one point i.e. that the Mig-29k is classified capable (fair) but the J-10B is (mediocre) according to what?

Yes, and the errors in Kargil have been discussed a thousand times over on here. This is nothing new nor does it have anything to do with what I've been discussing.

My Point was, You need to be patient for a few years for the REAL truth of MKI or the F16 or Both ( even the FAKE Surgical Strikes ) to be revealed.

We dont just have the Data.

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

IAF leadership may have faults of its own but that doesn't mean the PAF is better that the IAF. Again Feb 27 was no extraordinary feat for you as you brought down a lone bison with numerical superiority and even lost one of your own. It's same like we once shot down your atlantique aircraft. We made no noise unlike you.



Those must be ispr statistics, and you couldn't do **** against the su, apart from wasting a couple of bvr missiles.

Actually the iaf shot down 2 F-16s on the 27/02/2019.

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

It's same like we once shot down your atlantique aircraft.

Yep - you've clearly established that you have absolutely no idea about the military and have absolutely nothing constructive or intelligent to offer. This was on display in the previous threads you've discussed this topic, but this really takes the cake.

You're comparing the shooting down of a maritime patrol aircraft that allegedly crossed briefly into Indian controlled airspace with a shoot out between fighter jets during a period of high tensions and escalation when Pakistan had already announced it would respond to an unprovoked Indian act of aggression (IAF's failed bombing of Balakot).

Thread banned.

 

[maverick1977]

Such analyses had also largely predicted that the IAF would treat the PAF like it was 'shooting fish in a barrel', given the 'overwhelming numerical and technological superiority of the IAF', yet we saw during Balakot and subsequent events that comparisons on paper aren't always accurate, and there are many, many other variables that govern the effectiveness of a military response.

many US defence analyst predicted a complete PAF wash out during the next conflict.. to point that Within 24 hour air superiority will be maintained by IAF.

talk is cheap