Breaking the Myth at PDF : India vs China - Neutral Analysis ( if it comes to war )

[313ghazi]

IAF leadership may have faults of its own but that doesn't mean the PAF is better that the IAF. Again Feb 27 was no extraordinary feat for you as you brought down a lone bison with numerical superiority and even lost one of your own. It's same like we once shot down your atlantique aircraft. We made no noise unlike you.



Those must be ispr statistics, and you couldn't do **** against the su, apart from wasting a couple of bvr missiles.

hahaha.

So much shit...

1. No F-16 was lost, this has been confirmed by everyone.
2. The Atlantique was an unarmed turboprop aircraft flying in peacetime close to the border but in our airspace.

Next you people will be claiming indiscriminate bombing of villagers on the loc as examples of military victory.

 

[waz]

The fact also remains that on 26th, India went deep inside Pakistan ( and killed some crows ).
The fact also remains that While India DID retaliate when Pakistan attacked on 27 ( and lost Abhinandan ), PAF couldnt do ANYTHING on 26 !

Violation of AirSpace was on both Sides.

on 26 > India Invades Pakistan > PAF does Nothing
on 27 > Pakistan Invades India > IAF retaliates > Looses Pilot

I for one, believe NO F16 was Lost. While we did loose a Mig 21.
I firmly believe NO MKI was Lost for the very same reason. NO EVIDENCE.

Let me make this VERY Clear.

IAF Loosing a Pilot/Plane on 27 ( while Actively being Able to Retaliate ) Vs PAF Unable to Retaliate on 26

Thats the Picture we see in India. And We have no issues if we loose soldier/pilots while defending the Land.

I have no issue with the above, aside you left out the helicopter crash. I know it was due to targeting errors from Indian air defences, the PAF had nothing to do with it.

 

[BijliKhala]

IAF leadership may have faults of its own but that doesn't mean the PAF is better that the IAF. Again Feb 27 was no extraordinary feat for you as you brought down a lone bison with numerical superiority and even lost one of your own. It's same like we once shot down your atlantique aircraft. We made no noise unlike you.



Those must be ispr statistics, and you couldn't do **** against the su, apart from wasting a couple of bvr missiles.

RIP logic..

 

[Chanakyaa]

I have no issue with the above, aside you left out the helicopter crash. I know it was due to targeting errors from Indian air defences, the PAF had nothing to do with it.

Friendly Fire . I think both sides are clear on this. So Left it out.

 

[waz]

Friendly Fire . I think both sides are clear on this. So Left it out.

Yes that's correct.

 

[Longhorn]

Comprehension Issues ?

The Video Posted by an Indian ( me ) whose conclusion is China has "Marginal" Victory ( If No nukes involved ). India gets "Marginally" Defeated. Period.

In Effect, I ( as an Indian ) Agree that India is far weaker than China, no comparison, but War is about situations ( Hint : Vietnam or 1967, Sikkim ) .

Marginally defeated is like being slightly pregnant.

 

[Jackdaws]

The actual questions never get asked among all this chest thumping.

Did Indian intelligence know of the Chinese buildup and incursions? Judging by the press accounts, everything India is doing is in response to Chinese moves.

True. I doubt they did.

 

[Chanakyaa]

Marginally defeated is like being slightly pregnant.

That means we got China "slightly" Pregnant in 1967 and 2019 ?
On a serious note, Marginal Victory/defeat WITHOUT using nukes makes no sense as, your nukes are not for showcase.

 

[Song Hong]

India GDP is 20% of China. She will loss the war of attrition -- on top of the fact that she does not even have an indigenous defense industry.

That means we got China "slightly" Pregnant in 1967 and 2019 ?
On a serious note, Marginal Victory/defeat WITHOUT using nukes makes no sense as, your nukes are not for showcase.

 

[Chanakyaa]

India GDP is 20% of China. She will loss the war of attrition -- on top of the fact that she does not even have an indigenous defense industry.

I dont think u r from from Vietnam. As what u said, directly contradicts the History of Vietnam itself which DEFEATED the Mighty USA !

In Active war, GDP hardly matters especially when both have Nukes and ICBMs. And if GDP ACTUALLY matters, there wud be NO WAR in the first place.

 

[Song Hong]

Both side will deploy limited capabilities, instead of going all out.

I foresee it is realistic to discuss the scenario on light infantry and limited air power.

Else a few Chinese missiles on Leh Manali highway and Sela Pass, game over for Indians.

This video is not realistic.

I dont think u r from from Vietnam. As what u said, directly contradicts the History of Vietnam itself which DEFEATED the Might USA !

 

[Chanakyaa]

Both side will deploy limited capabilities, instead of going all out.

I foresee it is realistic to discuss the scenario on light infantry.

Else a few Chinese missiles on Leh Manali highway and Sela Pass, game over for Indians.

Who says they will deploy limited capabilities and why ? If Chiant CANT deploy full capability due to OTHER , HOT zones, It doesnt Apply to India as India has its forces PRIMARILY fr CHINA.

Brahmos has NOT been deployed fr Pakistan, but its there in Arunachal fr CHINA. And a single Battery Launch of Brahmos too can claim a sizebale damage with precise accuracy. The Question is at what cost. Something you didnt care to Think.

You can define your own fantasies, but u cannot predict what India will actually do.

 

[Song Hong]

Nehru dont deploy air force.

Who says they will deploy limited capabilities and why ? If Chiant CANT deploy full capability due to OTHER , HOT zones, It doesnt Apply to India as India has its forces PRIMARILY fr CHINA.

Brahmos has NOT been deployed fr Pakistan, but its there in Arunachal fr CHINA. And a single Battery Launch of Brahmos too can claim a sizebale damage with precise accuracy. The Question is at what cost. Something you didnt care to Think.

You can define your own fantasies, but u cannot predict what India will actually do.

Indians should get out of Galwan Valley.

Not a good place to fight Chinese -- really. You move into narrow valleys and get ready to be ambushed.

There are more motorizable plains in Aksai Chin.

 

[Jackdaws]

In 1962, india was ahead of China thanks to the goodies left behind after the British Raj. Yet China still smashed, defeated and vanquished india. In 2020, China is a global superpower set to become the world's FIRST EVER Global hyper power wheras india is one of the most impoverished nations on earth that has NEVER EVER invented, created or has the ability to produce ANY advanced Sciences or Technologies themselves. In fact the reality is that there is more chance of Pakistan beating america in a war than there is of india beating China.

Source for better goodies?

 

[Song Hong]

For next Sino Indian war, I expect it to be a more upscale version Siachen/Kargil War 2.0.

In Siachen/Kargil War conflict, both India and Pakistan refrain from attacking infrastructure and supply lines. Also they deploy limited capabilities instead of nuking.

Base on this realistic scenario, one can then discuss how would Sino Indian war 2.0 come to pass.