BREAKING: Kuwait reduces diplomatic ties with Iran

[Saif al-Arab]

It's the nouveau riche syndrome, in my opinion.

Qatar should've learned from Kuwait's mistakes but it didn't. We could've been like Brunei, Singapore, Macau, Hong Kong and many other wealthy countries that focused on building soft power and economic spheres of influence on a global stage instead of playing with fire.

I guess Qatar always wanted to imitate Kuwait lol.

Mind you, in the 1960s though 80s, Kuwait was literally just like modern day Qatar. It meddled in the Omani civil war and sided with the Dhofar communist rebels against the Omani government, even though Iran and Saudi Arabia were both supporting the Omani ruling family. It supported the communist South Yemen government against the Imamate of North Yemen, which was backed by the Saudis. It meddled in the Lebanese civil war and sided with the PLO, which as you know angered many Shias in Lebanon and led to the Hezbollah hijackings of several Kuwait Airways flights in the 80s. And worst of all, Kuwait stood with a mass murderer in the form of Saddam.

I guess the only thing Qatar learned from Kuwait was the importance of having a US military base before deciding to play with fire lol.

You still can. In fact, as we have discussed many times earlier, despite all the recent mistakes, not always due to events that Kuwait was in control of itself, mostly in fact not, the small GCC states are still much better off than most developing nations in the world and the vast, vast majority of Muslim countries. On almost every parameter that you can look at. In fact the entire GCC, being an almost 2 trillion USD big economy (GDP nominal) and with everything that has been accomplished, is the closest to those nations (Singapore, Brunei, Macau, Hong Kong) that you have mentioned. However due to the many years of wealth and overall small problems, critics have grown complacent and a lack of push towards further improvement was halted for various reasons. After all adversity is the mother of progress.

So it is about time that the GCC regimes and societies experience challenges. It took low oil prices for the leadership in KSA to wake up and initiate some of the numerous positive economic, military, industrial and social changes as well as theological. I know that the Saudi Vision 2030 is not breaking news by now but anyone that has followed internal events in KSA in the past 18 months will know what I am talking about. Which is why I wrote initially that the recent Qatari crisis will strengthen the GCC and not weaken it. If anything, in a worst case scenario, Qatar leaves the union (nothing points to it) they will eventually return due to simple facts of geography, history, people, ties on all fronts and common logic and future natural progress. For once, as I have said many times, further regional integration in the GCC on all fronts, is a given and I expect this to include Yemen and other regional Arab countries eventually. Similarly we will see the Maghreb cooperate more with each other and realize that their future is closely tied hence cooperation is the way forward.

 

[BATMAN]

Damn and Kuwait was always being the moderator.

Iran is sheltering too many wanted Kuwaitis. It was obvious when Iran is behaving like a thug. Pakistan should follow the suit.

 

[Saif al-Arab]

Still no evidence ,

Iran Summons Kuwaiti Envoy over ‘Groundless’Accusations


Iranian foreign ministry has summoned the Kuwaiti chargé daffaires to protest against the baseless allegations raised by the Arab country against the Islamic Republic.


Foreign Ministry Spokesman Bahram Qassemi announced on Thursday that Kuwaiti envoy Fallah Al-Hajraf has been summoned to the foreign ministry earlier in the day over the groundless accusations raised by the Persian Gulf state’sofficials against Iran on a case known as the “Abdali cell”.

During the meeting with Al-Hajraf, an official with Irans foreign ministry rejected the false charges and regretted that Kuwait City is raising groundless accusations against Tehran instead of trying to ease the pointless tensions in the region and exercising self-restraint in reaction to pressures and provocations by regional adventurous sides, Qassemi said.

According to the spokesman, the Iranian official has told the Kuwaiti envoy that the Islamic Republic has nothing to do with the case.

"This [that Iran is not related to the case] had been communicated to Kuwaiti officials immediately after the country started considering the legal case," Qassemi quoted the Iranian official as saying to Al-Hajraf.

During the meeting, the Kuwaiti diplomat was also reminded that the Islamic Republic of Iran has always showed responsible behaviour towards regional states, including Kuwait, during the countrys hard times, he added.

The Iranian official also told the Kuwaiti chargé daffaires that Iran reserves the right to reciprocate Kuwait Citys move and decrease the number of its diplomats in Tehran, Qassemi noted.

Al-Hajraf, for his part, has expressed regret over the recent developments in ties between the two countries and promised to inform Kuwaiti officials about the issues raised in the meeting as soon as possible.

When has the Iranian regime ever admitted any kind of guilt? I will try to ask again. Why would Kuwait time and time again manufacture supposed arrests, warrants etc. if there was not a pattern emerging? Let's assume that not all of those many arrests and warrants throughout the years and accusations were genuine, surely a large portion of them would be or at least some of them? Simple logic would dictate that.
Also why would Kuwait risk their ties with the Iranian regime which have otherwise been relatively cordial and friendly? Why is it hard for you to believe that the Mullah's that are ruling you have regional ambitions and one of those ambitions are related to the spread of Wilayat al-Faqih or Iranian influence by using Shia communities in foreign lands, in particular neighboring foreign lands. Especially in the current geopolitical situation in the region.

I mean how many times on a weekly basis do we hear news emerging from Iran that group x or y, group consisting of x or y members has been caught for various kind of offenses as claimed by the leadership? You never question that it seems. At least I am yet to see an single Iranian user do that. So you always give the benefit of doubt to your regime but apparently whenever it is another regime, that benefit is never there.

 

[Malik Alashter]

Stop trying to hide under Shia Islam. You know that sect which originates in modern-day KSA (Hijaz) and where from 99,9% of all its most important religious and historical personalities were born in modern-day KSA or originally from modern-day KSA by ancestry. Ironically similar to most Southern Iraqis, including your supposed family (Shammar).

You know very well that I am talking about and that I don't differentiate between Arabs regardless of sect. For me an Shia Saudi Arabian (whether Twelver, Zaydi or Ismaili) is as dear to me as a Sunni from Tabuk. Similarly in Iraq, an Shia Basrawi is the same in my eyes as an Sunni from nearby Al-Zubair. You can go and play those games with non-Arabs here.



You should study which country was an British colony and which never was a Western colony. BTW those that fought for the Arab nation enabled your most recent forefathers to become independent. Don't ever forget that.

As for what I meant, well, you know this very well as you are the prototype of it and yes you are a tiny minority in Iraq (you would be spat at if you disclosed your views in public) which is why you don't live in Iraq but the US!

Rubbish as usual

The is that you people are nomad hence you change loyalties easy

you back stabbed your ottoman khilafa with the queen of England or king

while yours were busy fighting their own brothers we were fighting for them the Brits hence the Brits conspride against with your kind where they help the tiny Sunni traitors to rule our country that's why the appointment of Sunni scum as a king in our country
again we were and still Muslims we looked at your scum king as a Muslim leader regardless his sector!!!!!

But as usual you were and still filled with hate and empty pride snakes and the worst one of them.

 

[Saif al-Arab]

Rubbish as usual

The is that you people are nomad hence you change loyalties easy

you back stabbed your ottoman khilafa with the queen of England or king

while yours were busy fighting their own brothers we were fighting for them the Brits hence the Brits conspride against with your kind where they help the tiny Sunni traitors to rule our country that's why the appointment of Sunni scum as a king in our country
again we were and still Muslims we looked at your scum king as a Muslim leader regardless his sector!!!!!

But as usual you were and still filled with hate and empty pride snakes and the worst one of them.

Are you drunk or under the influence of drugs?

Yes, Islamic history is rubbish as well as well-known and well-established historical facts.

There are no nomads in KSA. In fact there are 3 times as many Bedouins in Iraq than in KSA:

https://ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/بدو

I am also not sure what nomads have anything to do with the discussion as all ME countries had large nomadic pastoral communities a few generations ago. Even in your beloved Iran there are a significant number of nomads.

http://www.bbc.com/travel/story/20160817-the-last-nomads-of-iran

https://www.uppersia.com/Special-interest-tours/iran-nomads-tours.html

Anyway let's forget that modern-day KSA is home to some of the oldest continuously inhabited cities in the world and some of the oldest known civilizations or the fact that KSA (Arabia as a whole) is one of the earliest inhabited places on earth by humans. In fact only second to Eastern/Horn of Africa.

You are confusing Iraq with KSA. Almost all of Iraq was ruled by Ottomans. As in real presence. In KSA only parts of Hijaz were under the de jure control of the Ottomans but the local rulers where the Sharifs of Makkah. You know this family and my relationship to it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sharifate_of_Mecca

Limited to a few military garrisons. Hence the plan to build the Hijaz railway which never materialized.

Anyway not sure what we are discussing here, my ancestors created 3 of the 11 largest empires in human history (3 times the size of the Ottoman and Persian empires) and much more influential empires that shaped the world much more profoundly. If we are talking about accomplishments and influence, even to this day, there is no comparison. So such discussions are laughable.

Similarly my ancestors ruled the Islamic Caliphate for over 1000 years until the Ottomans appeared in 1517 and stole the Caliphate after 1000 years of wars from our parts against the most mighty empires and adversaries of the age (Persian, Byzantine, Crusades, Mongols, internal fighting, other Muslim dynasties) from China in the east to France in the West. From the Russian Steppe in the North to the Swahili coastline in Eastern Africa. From Morocco in the West to South East Asia in the East.

Hence there was no loyalty indeed, which was great, nor will there ever be. The only loyalty is to the Arab nation. Your dying minority and race should learn what this means. After all it enabled your country to exist.

As for the rest nonsense, I don't know from whom or where you learned history.

KSA is one of the few non-Western areas of the world that were never a Western colony. So once again, you are confusing us with either yourself or someone else.

 

[Hrk19]

Kuwait has decided to shut down Iran’s cultural attaché office in the country and reduce the number of Iranian diplomats.

The reason - Tehran’s alleged ties with a “terrorist group” plotting attacks against the Arabian Gulf state, Arab media outlets reported.

The Arab media suggested that the decision came after 14 suspects linked to the outlawed group namely “Abdali cell” fled to Iran.

Kuwaiti judiciary had earlier charged 25 of its Shia nationals and an Iranian with spying for Tehran and the Lebanese Hezbollah movement.

azernews

CC: @Kuwaiti Girl

better late than never.
these iranians just love to stab you in the back.
case in point,we had been so very kind to them and in return they stir up trouble in sindh and balochistan eg yadhav and uzair as well as try to escalate sectarian tensions here.
better to always talk bluntly with them as kindness is not their language

 

[Dexon]

KSA is one of the few non-Western areas of the world that were never a Western colony. So once again, you are confusing us with either yourself or someone else.

well interesting
no one in past like alexander time conquered ksa area because you don't have civilization i mean everyone thought it's empty land probably some guys with glorious camel ! not worth to take it!...

 

[The SC]

Urgent: Kuwait denies expulsion of ambassador and implements only other diplomatic measures



In 2015 a huge cache of weapons and explosives was found in Kuwait..3 men were arrested..

 

[Big Tank]

Hopefully India also reduces ties with iran.

First stop playing a double game in Asia. At first you support Tehrik e Taleban, Jundullah and Baluch Insurgents later cry about being a Terror Victim. In that case. Reduce your ties with Israel first.

 

[Saif al-Arab]

well interesting
no one in past like alexander time conquered ksa area because you don't have civilization i mean everyone thought it's empty land probably some guys with glorious camel ! not worth to take it!...

Well, how interesting. An supposed Iranian with no historical knowledge. Is that why Romans, Byzantines, Persians and others tried to conquer Arabia repeatedly but failed? Is that why Arabia was one of the richest areas on the planet for almost 1000 years in pre-Islamic times during the incense trade?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incense_Route

Yes, a region that has older civilizations than Iran and older inhabited cities and a several millennia older human presence (habitation). Sure.

Actually that map is wrong as my ancestors conquered your entity completely and changed it forever 1400 years ago on every front.

Arabia is the homeland of the Ferrari of the ancient world (Arabian Horse). The most famous, widespread, influential and most expensive horse in the world.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arabian_horse

Used to conquer you entity and half of the world.

Camels too were the second most expensive and useful land animals in the ancient world and indeed they are numerous in Iran too.

You even adversy camel races for tourists:

http://iranthisway.com/2016/05/07/camel-race-khara-desert-iran/

Much better than donkeys which even to this day serves as the main method of transportation for many Iranians in villages across the country! I will refrain from posting photos in order not to fully create an off-topic discussion.

 

[The SC]

Bahrain protests:

 

[Saif al-Arab]

Bahrain protests:

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A minority of troublemakers.

But we must ask ourselves. Is that the minority that we want to give any kind of power and is their ideology the one that we want Bahrain to embrace?

To me those people might as well have waived ISIS flags in public and holding posters of Al-Baghdadi. Both options are poison.

At least I somehow understand and tolerate Hezbollah (an Arab organization with an Arab leader - proxy or no proxy) but that's about it.

 

[ResurgentIran]

Yawn.
GCC nations are reactionary states that change their diplomatic posture and relations as often as they change underwear.

 

[veg]

Bahrain protests:

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Here I find double standards.

If Muslims in Europe could stay faithful to Islam, then what is the problem when Shias of Bahrain like Iran and Hizbullah?

All European countries and their laws and democracy allow people to have their own opinions, they can rally for it in Europe, as it is human. But when Bahraini population want to do it then dictator mindset of Arab monarchs does have the capacity to digest it.

Salafies in London follow the fatwas of bin Baz and Salafi school of though, then it is ok. But when Shias of Bahrain follow Khomeini, then it is a crime.

Important is this that Saudi King and Bahraini king stop usurping the right of the population and fair elections should take place.

 

[The SC]

Here I find double standards.

If Muslims in Europe could stay faithful to Islam, then what is the problem when Shias of Bahrain like Iran and Hizbullah?

All European countries and their laws and democracy allow people to have their own opinions, they can rally for it in Europe, as it is human. But when Bahraini population want to do it then dictator mindset of Arab monarchs does have the capacity to digest it.

Salafies in London follow the fatwas of bin Baz and Salafi school of though, then it is ok. But when Shias of Bahrain follow Khomeini, then it is a crime.

Important is this that Saudi King and Bahraini king stop usurping the right of the population and fair elections should take place.

No, my friend the difference is huge.. these guys in Bahrain went with these banners directly _tried to_ to the kings palace..to ask for government reforms.. does that happen in England.. do they go to the Queen's palace to protest?
You know what can happen, they can easily storm the palace..