Breaking coup attempt in Venezuela.

[Yankee-stani]

if the countries listed here dont have nuclear weapons(aka top world powers), their "support" for GUaido mean little.

You can add in support from middle power states eg-Turkey,Iran as well who are trying to expand further influence as well

 

[925boy]

THis Venezuela Fiasco is actually another piece of evidence that US influence in the world has waned OR proof that Russia+ China can stalemate any other country or alliance on earth.

if this was year 2000 or before, Venezuela would have kicked out Maduro or started begging US once US sanctions hit Venezuela. Now, countries just run to Russia or/and China, ask for help, and they survive US's plans for them. Ask Assad. The fact that US started with economic attacks instead of military is bad, because that means the military option was so unpalatable to the US govt, it passed up on it and went straight for economic. If US cant attack VEnezuela, how can US attack Iran? Some of u who believe we are still in the old world order should watch closely.

 

[jamahir]

This Guaido fellow seems to have no shame in being an American puppet.

 

[Yankee-stani]

THis Venezuela Fiasco is actually another piece of evidence that US influence in the world has waned OR proof that Russia+ China can stalemate any other country or alliance on earth.

if this was year 2000 or before, Venezuela would have kicked out Maduro or started begging US once US sanctions hit Venezuela. Now, countries just run to Russia or/and China, ask for help, and they survive US's plans for them. Ask Assad. The fact that US started with economic attacks instead of military is bad, because that means the military option was so unpalatable to the US govt, it passed up on it and went straight for economic. If US cant attack VEnezuela, how can US attack Iran? Some of u who believe are still in the old world order should watch closely.

Interesting take Venezuela has survived coup like this in the early 2000s you have to understand why the US is so upset about Venezuela it's not because of "evil socialism" as you hear from Republicans,Fox News or any so called right wing garbage says Venzeuela under Hugo Chavez started to drift away from the US led Latin American blocs and was pursuing a "Independent" foreign policy balancing ties with Moscow,Bejiing,and Tehran something Washington does not like in its backyard Cuba may have been a nuisance but was small dependent Soviet backed state and base nothing special but resource rich Venezuela was hell no for them as it neighbors Colombia,and Brazil two big Latin American states and economies after Argentina

I think this Russian-Chinese alliance is more of a " marriage of convenience" people tend to forget mostly people who view the "Cold War' from a black and white lenses don't understand the "Peoples Republic of China" was Anti Soviet despite being Communist China and Russia have always had a uneasy relationship since the 1800s the Chinese historically view Russia with disdain because they saw their territories in the Far East taken by them in fact the prized city of Vladivostok was taken by the Russians by the Chinese plus Russian imperialism in Xinjiang and in Middle Asia added salt to the wounds this mentality would also go on to Kuomantang(Nationalist China) era all the way to the Mao even Deng era of the PRC,Russia is economically weakened since the fall of the Soviet Union in 1991 but its rich in gas and oil plus a stronger and well organized armed forces much more tested than the PLA in China so in the 2020s I see Russia and the USA say let by gones be by gones it slowly happening the big support for Ukraine and Georgia in 2008 and 2014 is waning in Washington the concern is a rising China and how to contain it so you see Trump playing nice with Kim and Putin for this reason

 

[doorstar]

it failed again, Maduro wins another battle
The armed forces did not heed the US man Mr Guaidó's call to revolt
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-48137781

 

[Yankee-stani]

it failed again

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-48137781

The Bolivarian Govt and Forces may have won the battle not the war yet expect more attempts in the near future especially with Leopoldo Lopez breaking out of jail I hope and pray that the Venezuelan people will pass through this hybrid war soon

 

[doorstar]

The Bolivarian Govt and Forces may have won the battle not the war yet expect more attempts in the near future especially with Leopoldo Lopez breaking out of jail I hope and pray that the Venezuelan people will pass through this hybrid war soon

I think ultimately it is bound to fail because currently USA is like a crazy elephant hitting every where all at the same time

 

[Yankee-stani]

if this was year 2000 or before, Venezuela would have kicked out Maduro or started begging US once US sanctions hit Venezuela. Now, countries just run to Russia or/and China, ask for help, and they survive US's plans for them. Ask Assad. The fact that US started with economic attacks instead of military is bad, because that means the military option was so unpalatable to the US govt, it passed [/QUOTE]


@925boy

It's pretty simple to understand why the "American" public mostly younger folks like myself are sick of these wars and interventions the baby boomer class basically s..cks Zionist garbage and proud of it the Cold War like mentality does not help either so the US uses covert and economic means by claiming it's for"Human Rights" and "Democracy " but people don't buy this crap no more also the US is demographically changing thanks to US intervention and the corporate greed for "cheap labor' the US is bring in folks with very dim views of US foreign policy that's why you notice more "Anti War" candidates like Tulsi Gabbard,Ron Paul,Bernie,Trump(sort of) and Andrew Yang get popular in recent years I know the thread is about Venezuela but you gotta be broad and notice the change in world politics as well

 

[Feng Leng]

Mexico supports Venezuela against American aggression. Now that Venezuela has been defended, it's time to funnel weapons, including nukes, to Mexico for use against the US army.

 

[925boy]

Mexico supports Venezuela against American aggression.

Ok..

Now that Venezuela has been defended, it's time to funnel weapons, including nukes, to Mexico for use against the US army.

HMMMMMMM!!!

 

[Falcon29]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1124376334254379008

https://twitter.com/x/status/1124373828199702528

 

[Beidou2020]

THis Venezuela Fiasco is actually another piece of evidence that US influence in the world has waned OR proof that Russia+ China can stalemate any other country or alliance on earth.

if this was year 2000 or before, Venezuela would have kicked out Maduro or started begging US once US sanctions hit Venezuela. Now, countries just run to Russia or/and China, ask for help, and they survive US's plans for them. Ask Assad. The fact that US started with economic attacks instead of military is bad, because that means the military option was so unpalatable to the US govt, it passed up on it and went straight for economic. If US cant attack VEnezuela, how can US attack Iran? Some of u who believe we are still in the old world order should watch closely.

If America fails to topple Maduro in its own back yard, no one will fear America anymore.

America has failed against:

China (EU approves Huawei and BRI)
South China Sea (China controls SCS)
Hong Kong (Umbrella protests failed)
Russia (Germany support Nordstream-2)
Ukraine (Russia controls Crimea)
Syria (Assad still in power)
North Korea (has nuclear weapons)
Iran (strong and influential in region)
Iraq (allied with Iran)
Afghanistan (taliban in control)
Turkey (bought S-400 from Russia)
Pakistan (told the US to get lost)
Cuba (Castro still in power)
Venezuela (Maduro still in power)

You are witnessing the end of the unipolar world order that started in 1991 and the significant loss of influence for the United States of America on a global scale.

 

[jamal18]

 

[Cthulhu]

Exclusive - Blackwater founder’s latest sales pitch: mercenaries for Venezuela

Aram Roston, Matt Spetalnick
7 MIN READ


WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Erik Prince - the founder of the controversial private security firm Blackwater and a prominent supporter of U.S. President Donald Trump - has been pushing a plan to deploy a private army to help topple Venezuela’s socialist president, Nicolas Maduro, four sources with knowledge of the effort told Reuters.

FILE PHOTO: Erik Prince, founder of the Blackwater security firm, testifies before a committee of the U.S. Congress about security contracting in Iraq and Afghanistan on Capitol Hill in Washington, October 2, 2007. REUTERS/Larry Downing/File Photo


Over the last several months, the sources said, Prince has sought investment and political support for such an operation from influential Trump supporters and wealthy Venezuelan exiles. In private meetings in the United States and Europe, Prince sketched out a plan to field up to 5,000 soldiers-for-hire on behalf of Venezuelan opposition leader Juan Guaido, according to two sources with direct knowledge of Prince’s pitch.

One source said Prince has conducted meetings about the issue as recently as mid-April.

White House National Security Council spokesman Garrett Marquis declined to comment when asked whether Prince had proposed his plan to the government and whether it would be considered. A person familiar with the administration’s thinking said the White House would not support such a plan.

Venezuela opposition officials have not discussed security operations with Prince, said Guaido spokesman Edward Rodriguez, who did not answer additional questions from Reuters. The Maduro government did not respond to a request for comment.

Some U.S. and Venezuelan security experts, told of the plan by Reuters, called it politically far-fetched and potentially dangerous because it could set off a civil war. A Venezuelan exile close to the opposition agreed but said private contractors might prove useful, in the event Maduro’s government collapses, by providing security for a new administration in the aftermath.


A spokesman for Prince, Marc Cohen, said this month that Prince “has no plans to operate or implement an operation in Venezuela” and declined to answer further questions.

Lital Leshem - the director of investor relations at Prince’s private equity firm, Frontier Resource Group - earlier confirmed Prince’s interest in Venezuela security operations.

“He does have a solution for Venezuela, just as he has a solution for many other places,” she said, declining to elaborate on his proposal.

The two sources with direct knowledge of Prince’s pitch said it calls for starting with intelligence operations and later deploying 4,000 to 5,000 soldiers-for-hire from Colombia and other Latin American nations to conduct combat and stabilization operations.


‘DYNAMIC EVENT’
For Prince, the unlikely gambit represents the latest effort in a long campaign to privatize warfare. The wealthy son of an auto-parts tycoon has fielded private security contractors in conflict zones from Central Asia to Africa to the Middle East.

One of Prince’s key arguments, one source said, is that Venezuela needs what Prince calls a “dynamic event” to break the stalemate that has existed since January, when Guaido - the head of Venezuela’s National Assembly - declared Maduro’s 2018 re-election illegitimate and invoked the constitution to assume the interim presidency.

Maduro has denounced Guaido, who has been backed by most western nations, as a U.S. puppet who is seeking to foment a coup. Key government institutions – including the military – have not shifted their loyalty to Guaido despite increasing international pressure from sanctions imposed by the United States and its allies.

Guaido has stressed that he wants a peaceful resolution, and Latin American governments recognizing his authority have urged against outside military action. Senior U.S. officials, without ruling out armed intervention, have also emphasized economic and diplomatic measures to pressure Maduro.

CLOSE TIES TO TRUMP
Prince was a pioneer in private military contracting during the Iraq war, when the U.S. government hired Blackwater primarily to provide security for State Department operations there.

In 2007, Blackwater employees shot and killed 17 Iraqi civilians at Nisour Square in Baghdad, sparking international outrage. One of the Blackwater employees involved was convicted of murder in December and three others have been convicted of manslaughter.


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Prince renamed the Blackwater security company and sold it in 2010, but he recently opened a company called Blackwater USA, which sells ammunition, silencers and knives. Over the past two years, he has led an unsuccessful campaign to convince the Trump administration to replace U.S. soldiers in Afghanistan with security contractors.

Since 2014, Prince has run the Hong Kong-based Frontier Services Group, which has close ties to the state-owned Chinese investment company CITIC and helps Chinese firms operating in Africa with security, aviation and logistics services.

Prince donated $100,000 to a political action committee that supported Trump’s election. His sister, Betsy DeVos, is the administration’s education secretary.

Prince’s role in Trump’s campaign was highlighted in the report by Special Prosecutor Robert Mueller, released this month, on alleged ties between the Trump campaign and Russian efforts to influence the 2016 presidential election.

The report outlined how Prince financed an effort to authenticate purported Hillary Clinton emails and how in 2016 he met in the Seychelles islands, off east Africa, with a wealthy Russian financial official on behalf of Trump’s presidential transition team.

Prince spokesman Cohen declined to comment on the Mueller report.


TARGETING FROZEN ASSETS
The two sources with direct knowledge of Prince’s Venezuela plan said he is seeking $40 million from private investors. He also aims to get funding from the billions of dollars in Venezuelan assets that have been seized by governments around the world imposing sanctions on the OPEC nation, a major oil exporter.

It’s unclear, however, how the Venezuelan opposition could legally access those assets. Prince told people in pitch meetings, the sources said, that he believes that Guaido has the authority to form his own military force because he has been recognized internationally as Venezuela’s rightful leader.

Prince envisions a force made up of “Peruvians, Ecuadoreans, Colombians, Spanish speakers,” one of the sources said, adding that Prince argued that such soldiers would be more politically palatable than American contractors.

(This story has been refiled to fix typo in the first paragraph.)

Reporting By Aram Roston and Matt Spetalnick; Editing by Kieran Murray and Brian Thevenot

Our Standards:The Thomson Reuters Trust Principles.


https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...pitch-mercenaries-for-venezuela-idUSKCN1S608F

 

[maximuswarrior]

THis Venezuela Fiasco is actually another piece of evidence that US influence in the world has waned OR proof that Russia+ China can stalemate any other country or alliance on earth.

if this was year 2000 or before, Venezuela would have kicked out Maduro or started begging US once US sanctions hit Venezuela. Now, countries just run to Russia or/and China, ask for help, and they survive US's plans for them. Ask Assad. The fact that US started with economic attacks instead of military is bad, because that means the military option was so unpalatable to the US govt, it passed up on it and went straight for economic. If US cant attack VEnezuela, how can US attack Iran? Some of u who believe we are still in the old world order should watch closely.

That is well dissected.