Break the Sino-Pak connection

[Time Assassin]

India is doing more harm to it's Sino relationship by posting and talking kr*p. China has been a BRILLIANT ally of Pakistan ever since it's start. Pakistan will help China in anything if China asked for it. The bond of Pakistan and China can't be broken.

Long live China and Pakistan

 

[Last Hope]

Well, to be honest they are afraid that Pakistan may use China to rise and vice versa.

Sino-Pak friendship will still remain if you nuke both countries till dust.

 

[Sayonara]

Well he did not used the right word, we cannot break the relationship, but we can make sure that relationship does not hurt us. That is all we need, if they can remain neutral in Kashmir issue, who care what they do with Pakistan.

My guess is China will have the balance, it will not title completely in favor of Pakistan or India.

son, you know where is china balance tilted, its well 10000000 pounds heavy on the other side

 

[Hafizzz]

India is doing more harm to it's Sino relationship by posting and talking kr*p. China has been a BRILLIANT ally of Pakistan ever since it's start. Pakistan will help China in anything if China asked for it. The bond of Pakistan and China can't be broken.

Long live China and Pakistan

The bond between Pakistan and China is stronger than superglue !!!

 

[xTra]

The bond between Pakistan and China is stronger than superglue !!!

No comments, I would like to just wait and watch for may be 10 years.

 

[Sayonara]

No comments, I would like to just wait and watch for may be 10 years.

what will happen in ten yrs, why are you crying???

 

[humanfirst]

What a load of crap..if this type of stupid chanakyas are in our foreign affairs ministry,we are never gonna have any good relationship with anyone.

 

[sanibhagwan]

Don't you know one of the most important quotes in geopolitics?

"Nations have no permanent friends and no permanent enemies. Only permanent interests."

Like I said, China will always need Pakistan for Gwadar port, for a land-link to the Middle East for pipelines, and as a gateway to the Islamic world. Permanent interests.

The geography is not going to change. Unless the whole of Southeast Asia vanishes from the map, we will still need Gwadar port to bypass the Malacca straits.

China will always need Pakistan for Gwadar port

In my opinion, china did not accrue any benefit out of this port.

to bypass the Malacca straits

Is North west frontier province better than malacca straits? My point is transporting goods from Gwadar port to south west China via Terrorist infested region is a herculean task. Americans are having a tough time their.

as a gateway to the Islamic world

China already has better relationship with islamic world like Malaysia (large ethinic presence), UAE (Second largest trading partner), Iran (Energy imports), etc

Why need a separate gateway to islamic world?

 

[MuZammiL Dr. s[1]n]

"Nations have no permanent friends and no permanent enemies. Only permanent interests."

well delusional indian friend why dont you give us an offer we could nt refuse, ask yours government to put a bid on the table for the break up of china pakistan friendship.

chinaToday bro. you're the man ...

you have asked this indian a million - dollar question ...
bro. , Let us wait 'nd watch what would be his escaping answer to your question ...

 

[KruelRage]

well delusional indian friend why dont you give us an offer we could nt refuse, ask yours government to put a bid on the table for the break up of china pakistan friendship.

Well, hypothetically, let us consider the following scenarios that might occur on the assumption of above said,

India evolving its position by considering Tibet a sovereign part of China rather than a suzerain and thereby ending the 'de-facto' Tibetian govt. & negotiating the return of Tibetian refugee's back to China.

Supporting China's postion against the 'West' on the issue of 'Currency Wars' in the IMF, WTO & other international forums.

Supporting China in the debate of 'economic burden' of Climate Change among developed & developing nations.

A market of 1.5 Billion for Chinese goods.

An alternative better equipped shorter route from Arabian sea & Bay of Bengal to Western China through Ladakh & Nathu-La pass respectively.

Maintaining China's status-quo in the Indian Ocean & the oil-route by 'not' supporting US & Australia.


Both countries should realize that as both nations are being touted to becoming a great powers in Asia & then the World, we shouldnt let a third party, Pakistan in China's case & US in India's case jeopardize 'everything' that our fore-father's have worked so hard to achieve.

Lets us just concentrate on fighting poverty, illitracy & hunger in our own countries & maybe and just maybe, we could fight each other over a game of cricket or ping-pong.. . The opportunities between India & China are limitless, with our 5000 year old history being a prime example..

 

[graphican]

No Pakistan alone doesn't give it existential threat.. its the Cino-Pak collaboration which matters the most for them. They know if a war happens between Pakistan and India, India will have lesser scars and will be able to survive but if that is with Cino-Pak together.. there won't be many surviving who would write their history.

 

[damiendehorn]

Well, hypothetically, let us consider the following scenarios that might occur on the assumption of above said,

India evolving its position by considering Tibet a sovereign part of China rather than a suzerain and thereby ending the 'de-facto' Tibetian govt. & negotiating the return of Tibetian refugee's back to China.

Supporting China's postion against the 'West' on the issue of 'Currency Wars' in the IMF, WTO & other international forums.

Supporting China in the debate of 'economic burden' of Climate Change among developed & developing nations.

A market of 1.5 Billion for Chinese goods.

An alternative better equipped shorter route from Arabian sea & Bay of Bengal to Western China through Ladakh & Nathu-La pass respectively.

Maintaining China's status-quo in the Indian Ocean & the oil-route by 'not' supporting US & Australia.


Both countries should realize that as both nations are being touted to becoming a great powers in Asia & then the World, we shouldnt let a third party, Pakistan in China's case & US in India's case jeopardize 'everything' that our fore-father's have worked so hard to achieve.

Lets us just concentrate on fighting poverty, illitracy & hunger in our own countries & maybe and just maybe, we could fight each other over a game of cricket or ping-pong.. . The opportunities between India & China are limitless, with our 5000 year old history being a prime example..

The problem here is india and china are competeing powers, co-operation between them will be very hard, except for a few areas. Your assumming their is ever space for 2 great powers, as a film quote says, "there can only be one".

 

[Mech]

Funny thing about india is that it can actually pull this off. Most chinese dont know about an entity called 'pakistan' or its relationship with chinese govt. However, india is quite well known, and most chinese (unlike the warmongering ccp folk in def.pk) , does not maintain hostile views against india.

The US used to be a staunch supporter of pakistan. They deliberately pushed us into the tar pit and set up pakistan in a stronger position. This scenario took a 360 degree turn because india has been able to gain the moral high ground and influence the public opinion.

The same goes for indian influence in europe, south america, CHINA (yup, we have already begun ) etc. India and indians have been marketing our culture, mysticism, food all over the world.

Wherever indians go, our culture follows. Yes, we integrate, but we still retain our culture and fondness for our roots. There is no place in the world where an indian hasnt been to or lived in. We market our identity to the world.....and integrate.....therefore we win . Mark my words, china will soon be in the indian camp unless the americans push us into war or, if we act prematurely.

If you are a third party observer and unbiased, you will find indians are a queer folk. We are all eager to step into new territories, foreign ideas; but most of us never part with our culture.....regardless of religion. In this , we are similiar to the jews who despite their location, retain their jewish identity.

 

[Rafi]

Pakistan and PRC are neighbors and nothing can change that, and resources in the world are finite, if you are struggling for oil, gas etc - there will naturally be conflict. And also indian remember Pakistani people are also all over the world, usually dating indian women.

 

[huzihaidao12]

We all agree that Balochistan is central to Pakistan's geographical value to China. We also know that it is home to a growing separatist insurgency and, regardless of who's supporting the insurgents, both India and the West are happy to see it.

Which brings up the question of Pakistan government's handling of Balochistan. Unfortunately, we can see that it is a repeat of East Pakistan. Instead of genuinely responding to the people's concerns, the government is using brute force to suppress any dissent. That's because the feudal elite ruling Pakistan does not want to harm their fellow feudal lords in Balochistan, and they would rather lose Balochistan than break the feudal code.

However, if Pakistan loses Balochistan, it will also lose China's alliance. At some point, the army has to realize what is going on and make a decision: will they finally rid the country of these feudals once and for all, or will they allow Pakistan to be broken once again.

Even without Balochistan, will not give up our friendship, the same as in the past few decades, there is no economic potential, we are still developing a military alliance. China will continue to develop good relations and neighbors, but may not have great potential for Economic relations between the two sides, of course, investment. However, like I said, even without Balochistan, we are still good friends and good neighbors, but not so much economic potential for the future.