BrahMos-equipped Su-30MKIs hit bull’s eye as Gaganshakti-2018 concludes

[Akasa]

As of now, there is nothing Chinese or Pakistani ships do to avoid being hit by the missile once it is launched.

There absolutely are. Destroyers are equipped with LR SAMs and/or MR SAMs, both of which are capable of sea-skimming intercept and can work either in conjunction or as a layered system. If the AShM manages to survive those layers, it would have to contend with Chinese/Pakistani IR-guided Sea-RAM equivalents like the FL-3000N or HHQ-10, all the while being subjected to electronic interference and decoy countermeasures. If the AShM still manages to survive that, it would face several CIWS systems like the Type 730 (deployed by Pakistan as well) and the Type 1130, the latter of which has been tested against Mach 4 class missiles.

 

[SrNair]

Scared of what? Indians??? Hell NO!!!!

I was just curious why are indians so insecure talking about two front wars and than talking about business as usual

Ok Agreed

 

[Daghalodi]

Ok Agreed

So you think you guys can pull off a two front war? I mean operation gagan shakti strategy attack and flatten pakistan in two days and than move assets towards china.
What if China comes in and flattens you in two days?

 

[punit]

There absolutely are. Destroyers are equipped with LR SAMs and/or MR SAMs, both of which are capable of sea-skimming intercept and can work either in conjunction or as a layered system. If the AShM manages to survive those layers, it would have to contend with Chinese/Pakistani IR-guided Sea-RAM equivalents like the FL-3000N or HHQ-10, all the while being subjected to electronic interference and decoy countermeasures. If the AShM still manages to survive that, it would face several CIWS systems like the Type 730 (deployed by Pakistan as well) and the Type 1130, the latter of which has been tested against Mach 4 class missiles.

Yeah u will get an hr time to deploy all these.

 

[Akasa]

Yeah u will get an hr time to deploy all these.

These defenses will be ready and primed as soon as the fleet is underway. SAMs will be launched in multiple salvos as soon as the incoming missile is detected.

 

[#hydra#]

Not much. The speed alone creates a bang equivalent to 200 Kg of Explosives and it can carry another 200 Kg as warhead. So thats a bang of 400 Kg

Let's do math, brahmos will be travelling with Mach 2.8 or 3457km per sec,let's take it's weight 3000kg for calculation asper quoted in many sources.
For comparison we will take tomahawk missile since often there is a tendency to compare both by both sides,though I think tomahawk is a missile of its league.
Tomahawk speed will be 840km with 1300kg.
The kinetic energy of Brahmos will be
Eb= 0.5*3000*3457*3457 J

=17926273500 J= 4.28 tonnes of TNT equivalent.
Now let's calculate for tomahawk
Et=0.5*1300*840*840.
=458640000 J= 0.11 tonnes of TNT eqiequival.

So in reality the impact energy for Brahmins is 4.28 tonnes of TNT where as tomahawk is only having mere 0.11 tonnes of TNT.
Which means brahmos impact energy will be roughly 39 times higher than that of tomahawk, provided impact mass of tomahawk and brahmos has to be 1300kg and 3000kg respectively.

 

[SrNair]

So you think you guys can pull off a two front war? I mean operation gagan shakti strategy attack and flatten pakistan in two days and than move assets towards china.
What if China comes in and flattens you in two days?

Chinese wont because China and India have a lot of things to lose .

 

[Daghalodi]

Chinese wont because China and India have a lot of things to lose .

Tell that to your generals who are always speaking about a two front war and operation gagan shakti is a dud if we go according to your logic

 

[SrNair]

Tell that to your generals who are always speaking about a two front war and operation gagan shakti is a dud if we go according to your logic

Pakistan is not in the league of big nations like India and China .
So case rest there

 

[Daghalodi]

Pakistan is not in the league of big nations like India and China .
So case rest there

So who is india going to fight the two front war with? China and Russia?

Besides there is a saying the bigger they are the harder they fall

 

[Panzerfaust 3]

Tell that to your generals who are always speaking about a two front war and operation gagan shakti is a dud if we go according to your logic

Two front war is actually the worst case scenario ,we all know there is peace between India and China plus there's also a huge trade volume between two countries

 

[SrNair]

So who is india going to fight the two front war with? China and Russia?

Besides there is a saying the bigger they are the harder they fall

We will do whatever we want to protect our nation.
You can go to hell

 

[Daghalodi]

We will do whatever we want to protect our nation.
You can go to hell

You know we will bomb you to vedic ages when you try to flatten pakistan in two days.
Dont worry

Two front war is actually the worst case scenario ,we all know there is peace between India and China plus there's also a huge trade volume between two countries

I dont understand this hypocrisy!! First you talk of two front war and than you say hindi-chini bhai bhai???

 

[Panzerfaust 3]

You know we will bomb you to vedic ages when you try to flatten pakistan in two days.
Dont worry



I dont understand this hypocrisy!! First you talk of two front war and than you say hindi-chini bhai bhai???

First you need to understand that we are not a nation driven by emotions (like Pakistan) ,we have proven policies for handling a situation and any nation
China is a regional rival as well a economic partner, there is actually huge potential in the business relationship of India and China, each nation is trying to reap benefits from each other
There's are also lots of disputes between these two countries ,and China has a long list of rivals it doesn't want India to join them
And similarly India doesn't want China to join Pakistan in case a war breaks out
You have to understand there are no friends or foes just national interests
As I said before two front war is a worst case scenario and highly unlikely
China never actually helped pakisPak in any war be it 65 or 71
The didn't even moved a few divisions towards the Indian borders,they just issued threats in 65 war

You know we will bomb you to vedic ages when you try to flatten pakistan in two days.
Dont worry

You have already bombed your economy back to stone age, by involving in useless wars and being the puppet of superpowers

 

[Safriz]

Let's do math, brahmos will be travelling with Mach 2.8 or 3457km per sec,let's take it's weight 3000kg for calculation asper quoted in many sources.
For comparison we will take tomahawk missile since often there is a tendency to compare both by both sides,though I think tomahawk is a missile of its league.
Tomahawk speed will be 840km with 1300kg.
The kinetic energy of Brahmos will be
Eb= 0.5*3000*3457*3457 J

=17926273500 J= 4.28 tonnes of TNT equivalent.
Now let's calculate for tomahawk
Et=0.5*1300*840*840.
=458640000 J= 0.11 tonnes of TNT eqiequival.

So in reality the impact energy for Brahmins is 4.28 tonnes of TNT where as tomahawk is only having mere 0.11 tonnes of TNT.
Which means brahmos impact energy will be roughly 39 times higher than that of tomahawk, provided impact mass of tomahawk and brahmos has to be 1300kg and 3000kg respectively.

Wrong calculation. Half the weight is fuel which will be mostly consumed when missile reaches target.