Blackwater USA to contain China's secret upset Pakistan

[Chinese-Dragon]

mnnn...You are almost right.But not completely.Because China wants to tackle US in all the aspect,thats the correct reason...Or maybe pakistan is using both US-China,so that they fight with each other and the pakistan will watch...My friend the cold war era is just beginning,be careful with US..As they r experienced..

Muse has already answered you:

China does not want to tackle anybody, neither does Pakistan.

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

Pakistan people are not in the middle we are firmly on the side of the chinese.

And we will always be grateful for that.

 

[Black Widow]

China does not want to tackle anybody, neither does Pakistan -- US is hopelessly pursuing a commercial interest hoping to create relevance for itself - but no cigar

You can guarantee Pakistan intention not China or America's.. China influence in gawadar will be threat to USA. This will try to change World order in middle east. By Inviting china in Pakistan you are dropping stone in calm water, the ripple will affect entire middle east (including India and USA)

 

[somebozo]

Blackwater is just another terrorist infiltration group much like the talibans of 80s
who is the biggest state sponser of terrorism? USA
never trust the infidels..they are hypocrites..they will always play both sides and will deny what they commit!

 

[Outman]

I don't think that Pakistan is that much of a pushover as you or China would like to believe.

To be frank, it has its intrinsic might that does not require support from 'friends' and quasi friends.

cooperation is not unilateral, it has to benefit both parties, as is the case of pak-china relationship.

 

[somebozo]

Blackwater is just another terrorist infiltration group much like the talibans of 80s
who is the biggest state sponser of terrorism? USA
never trust the infidels..they are hypocrites..they will always play both sides and will deny what they commit!

You can guarantee Pakistan intention not China or America's.. China influence in gawadar will be threat to USA. This will try to change World order in middle east. By Inviting china in Pakistan you are dropping stone in calm water, the ripple will affect entire middle east (including India and USA)

And by inviting USA to the region you are awaking the dragon plus the bear..how about that?
India is not really any power in asia to reckon with!

 

[Tiki Tam Tam]

cooperation is not unilateral, it has to benefit both parties, as is the case of pak-china relationship.

Where is cooperation mentioned?

The tone of the post, IIRC was that Pakistan cannot do without support from other countries!

 

[muse]

Well, it's certainly a possibility that the US will attempt ever crazier, ever more reckless behavior, no doubt about that -- below is a map :

Even for the Saudi, there will be a pipeline - if that pipeline goes through Iran and connects via Turkmenistan (SCO member) -- the US is desperate, now everybody in the region knows her game -- her only option is to either leave the game or up the ante (Pakistan bad, evil, boo, hiss) -- can Pakistan absorb that - If SCO membership comes through it will be absorbed easier and without it, well, Pakistan, people say, is a hard country (read soft state)

 

[Outman]

You can guarantee Pakistan intention not China or America's.. China influence in gawadar will be threat to USA. This will try to change World order in middle east. By Inviting china in Pakistan you are dropping stone in calm water, the ripple will affect entire middle east (including India and USA)

whatever you called calm water stopped being calm long before the gawadar proposal, when OBL was killed by US soldiers in a covert op without the affirmation of pakistani government, they already dropped a bomb.

unfortunately, the only party that has any control over the situation is ths US, one lacking self-control.

 

[rai_kamal]

whatever you called calm water stopped being calm long before the gawadar proposal, when OBL was killed by US soldiers in a covert op without the affirmation of pakistani government, they already dropped a bomb.

unfortunately, the only party that has any control over the situation is ths US, one lacking self-control.

I m not supporting US but,why they won't attack on OBL??As he did on 9/11,even more covert op compared to US op on OBL..Don't you think so??

 

[Outman]

I m not supporting US but,why they won't attack on OBL??As he did on 9/11,even more covert op compared to US op on OBL..Don't you think so??

pakistan territory, US covert op, pakistan not knowing

then you can put together a sensible reason yourself i believe.

 

[Malik Usman]

Again Pakistan becoming Battleground for two world Power.... Its in benefit for Pakistan if it opt to be neutral... Pakistan will only loose if it trap btwn new cold war.. Pakistan must not allow china to control section of pakistan, don't repeat the same mistake what you did with USA...

Remember World power (USA, China, Russia) are frnd of none...

Don't think with your mentality...........Like you have non of friends from your neighbours..........You don't like China, Iran, Sri Lanka, Bangladesh and Pakistan.. So who is your friend.....................As far Pakistan and China is concern,,,,,,,,,,,,,its friendship which nobody can't dare to break.

 

[Black Widow]

Don't think with your mentality...........Like you have non of friends from your neighbours..........You don't like China, Iran, Sri Lanka, Bangladesh and Pakistan.. So who is your friend.....................As far Pakistan and China is concern,,,,,,,,,,,,,its friendship which nobody can't dare to break.

Our relation with neighbors is not topic of discussion. We are frndly with neighbors, Nepal has open border with India, indo-Srilanka relation is on track. Bangladesh is our brother.

Pakistan has a tendency of not to learn from Past, China is not your frnd, Friendship is done between equals not powerful nation and relatively weak nation.. same mistake Pakistan did when the befriended USA, and they are paying for it... If you befriend china , you will have to pay again.. I have reasons for my belief...
1. USA will not leave you in hand of communist regime, Pakistani leaders will divided in two parts, Communist control and American control.
2. CIA has assets in Pakistan, they will try to sabotage Pak-china frndship.
3, Chinese muslims area are equally troubled by government, sooner or later Jihadi will concentrate on that issue, which will lead similar situation (Today it is anti US jihadis, tomorrow it may be Anti china jihadi)
4. today American Drones are hunting Jihadies tomorrow chinese drone will hunt jihadis.
5. If Jihadi will go against china, USA and India will definitely support them.. (I am sorry to say that)


So what are the solution??????
1. confine Pak-Sino relation to Client-customer relation.
2. Distance pakistan from USA and china. keep a safe distance.
3. Don't allow them to decide your policies.
4. Reduce the dependency on them.
And most importantly
5. Don't trapped between there war.. Let them fight you enjoy your freedom...

 

[muse]

Yes, yes, US will huff and puff and blow our little house down -- US is up a creek without a paddle, I encourage you to look at the situation, not through worshiping eyes, but with a clear mind - What the Us continues to do is up the ante, this is a reckless game to play and one which it cannot win

 

[tjpf]

Yes, yes, US will huff and puff and blow our little house down -- US is up a creek without a paddle, I encourage you to look at the situation, not through worshiping eyes, but with a clear mind - What the Us continues to do is up the ante, this is a reckless game to play and one which it cannot win

Yes, yes, US will huff and puff and blow our little house down -- US is up a creek without a paddle, I encourage you to look at the situation, not through worshiping eyes, but with a clear mind - What the Us continues to do is up the ante, this is a reckless game to play and one which it cannot win

WHY DO YOU PAKISTANIS THINK YOUR ANY MATCH TO USA. YOUR MILITARY CAN NEVER MATCH UPTO THEM AND YES THEY ARE UNDERGOING FINANCIAL PROBLEM BUT NOT TO THE EXTENT AT WHICH YOU PAKISTANI ARE HYPING IT TO!!!!!!!!!!! YOU ARE SHOWING OFF WITH F16 THAT USA GAVE AND THAT TO WHAT 60 ODD HOW CAN PAKISTAN MATCH THEM.......I NEVER HEARD AN INDIAN SAY THAT INDIA WILL DESTROY USA OR CHINA....ACCEPTED CHINA IS STRONGER THAN INDIA ECONOMICALLY AND MILITARILY AND OUR DEFENCE FORCE IS AT PRESENT NOT EQUAL TO THEM IN SOME ASPECTS BUT WE CREATED ENOUGH AS A DETERRENCE TO MAKE CHINA THINK TWICE.