BJP embarrassed again as RSS claims Hindus should 'weigh and assess their power'

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Nobody votes Modi for development alone.

Wonder why I recall only that word from his election rallies and manifesto, and not anything like tacit support to the goals of his former organization. Shayad isliye log kehte hain, jo dikhta hai wo hota nai, and jo hota hai wo dikhta nai.

The Constitution, not unlike any other book (including religious book), is ultimately only a piece of paper. Ok, many pieces of paper.

Saying that to a law student is almost a crime.

I'm just very glad even the Parliament cannot declare India as a Hindu Rashtra even if it wants to. So these people should just stop wasting their time or add towards the end of their statements 'for religious appeasement purposes only'

Conversion to Hinduism/Buddhism/Sikhism/Jainism is a necessity. The sooner the better. His silence is needed as well. The organizations working for this should be supported instead of being chastised.

Sir this is the second time I'm posting it, my assertion of him giving tacit support is not referred to Ghar Wapsi only, which is fair IMO unless it's forced. Do you want me to give you a list of statements issued by both the BJP and RSS members, which are not aimed at propagating freedom of religion for Hindus, but rather establishing Hindu supremacy in India and thus, disturbing the social fabric?

 

[SarthakGanguly]

Wonder why I recall only that word from his election rallies and manifesto, and not anything like tacit support to the goals of his former organization. Shayad isliye log kehte hain, jo dikhta hai wo hota nai, and jo hota hai wo dikhta nai.



Saying that to a law student is almost a crime.

I'm just very glad even the Parliament cannot declare India as a Hindu Rashtra even if it wants to. So these people should just stop wasting their time or add towards the end of their statements 'for religious appeasement purposes only'



Sir this is the second time I'm posting it, my assertion of him giving tacit support is not referred to Ghar Wapsi only, which is fair IMO unless it's forced. Do you want me to give you a list of statements issued by both the BJP and RSS members, which are not aimed at propagating freedom of religion for Hindus, but rather establishing Hindu supremacy in India and thus, disturbing the social fabric?

Yeah stating that to a law student is rather scary, not a crime.
And of course jo dikhta hain woh hota nahi. Nothing is universally good. Something is good for some, bad for another. For me BJP is the best bet, for now. Congress claims to do good for all, but the reality is different. BJP is more open in that regard. Without RSS, Hindutva for example - there is no BJP. It's out and out an ideological party.

Yes, I would like to know how would strengthening Hindus lead to disturbing the social fabric? Also prudent to ask is that is the social fabric optimum or anywhere close to it? In that case, should it not be disturbed?

 

[Tshering22]

I like the way how haters of Indian culture and nationalism use these intellectual platforms.

BJP lost in 2003 and 2009 because it diluted the Hindutva Agenda.

It worn in 2014 because Modi has/had a hard-line Hindutva image.

Modi is the PM of India and his job is governance, not religious conversion. That is best left to VHP or the CHURCH. Modi is not required to speak For or Against it.

If the shhit is getting irritating, best you shut your ears or turn off the paid media, because as long as BJP is in power, Media is going to rattle on and on about Hindutva.

IB has stated multiple reports on how some of these media receive foreign money in order to spread venom against the PM and the nationalist groups. Don't know what Doval is doing about this.

 

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Yes, I would like to know how would strengthening Hindus lead to disturbing the social fabric? Also prudent to ask is that is the social fabric optimum or anywhere close to it? In that case, should it not be disturbed?

Well you don't necessarily need any one particular religion, however peaceful it may claim itself to be, to be in a position to dominate the social fabric. Just ensure no religion is being oppressed and the social fabric would attain it's optimal position.

You wouldn't call Hindus as oppressed, would you? Now any fruther attempt at strengthening the Hindus is bound to raise insecurity among other religious groups.

And I don't really know who I will vote for in the next election. Sab ek se badkar ek hain.

 

[Donatello]

Great. Bollywood should definitely make an anime on these jokers.

I like the way how haters of Indian culture and nationalism use these intellectual platforms.


IB has stated multiple reports on how some of these media receive foreign money in order to spread venom against the PM and the nationalist groups. Don't know what Doval is doing about this.

Question is, can Doval do anything?

 

[ashok mourya]

Strengthening means gun training or hatred towards others?.No.
Hindus must be educationally ,economically,spiritually strengthen leaving behind regionalism and cast-ism towards nationalism that's the main aim of RSS.(Hindus include all Indians including all religions ,cast and creed, not Pakistani,Bangladeshi,Indonesian Hindus)

 

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(Hindus include all Indians including all religions ,cast and creed, not Pakistani,Bangladeshi,Indonesian Hindus)

Therein lies our issue mate. When people of other religions do not want to be associated with Hindus, which according to RSS includes all religions, why are you compelling them when our Constitution states everyone is free to practice and propagate his own religion?

If RSS really is a nationalist organization, why not emphasize on use of word 'Indian' instead of 'Hindu'?

Other than that, ofc everyone is free to work towards the upliftment of the people of one's religion, without imposing it on any other group. THAT is Indian culture, not Hindutva.

 

[ashok mourya]

Therein lies our issue mate. When people of other religions do not want to be associated with Hindus, which according to RSS includes all religions, why are you compelling them when our Constitution states everyone is free to practice and propagate his own religion?

If RSS really is a nationalist organization, why not emphasize on use of word 'Indian' instead of 'Hindu'?

Other than that, ofc everyone is free to work towards the upliftment of the people of one's religion, without imposing it on any other group. THAT is Indian culture, not Hindutva.

 

[wolfschanzze]

Wanting India to be declared as a Hindu Rashtra when the Preamble clearly states India would be a secular nation (i.e no official religion of state), is not asking for a special right?

And what 'neglect' are you talking about? What rights of yours have been infringed?



That'd mean implicit support. He has to take a stand.

Read the Preamble of Constitution yourself and show me where are the words "SOCIALST AND SECULAR" written?
It was added by Indira Gandhi in 1974 emergency when whole opposition was in Jail, is that Constitutional amendment,when everyone who oppose you are in jail and you change rules as per whims and fancies of yours?

Modi does not need to take a stand or talk everytime someone questions him,He certainly doesn't need to clarify his stand when Masala,Presstitute and Paid media does hit jobs for TRP.

 

[ashok mourya]

 

[Koovie]

You are speaking for 30% of the Indian electorate here. How can you say that with any authority.

You can speak for yourself, I can speak for myself.

I am a Hindu youth and I voted for development and Hindutva.

Development AND hindutva? how is turning a modern state into a theocratic shit state development? How is alienating 300 million people development? How is concentrating on fairy tales instead of development a good thing?


hindutva will be political suicide and would destroy the nation.

 

[ashok mourya]

 

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Read the Preamble of Constitution yourself and show me where are the words "SOCIALST AND SECULAR" written?
It was added by Indira Gandhi in 1974 emergency when whole opposition was in Jail, is that Constitutional amendment,when everyone who oppose you are in jail and you change rules as per whims and fancies of yours?

Firstly, it was through 42nd Amendment Act in 1976 that the word Secular was added to the preamble. Now, if India doesn't really want to be obligated to act as a secular nation, you can amend the preamble under article 368, take out the word secular and no will raise another voice. Why have the successive governments not done that?

 

[ashok mourya]

Who is Hindu?Ask any Indian,Pakistani,Bangladeshi muslim Haj pilgrim to Arab.they call them as Hindus not Pakistani,Bhartiya,Bangaldeshi.

Hindu is the name of citizens from Indian subcontinent.

 

[wolfschanzze]

Well you don't necessarily need any one particular religion, however peaceful it may claim itself to be, to be in a position to dominate the social fabric. Just ensure no religion is being oppressed and the social fabric would attain it's optimal position.

You wouldn't call Hindus as oppressed, would you? Now any fruther attempt at strengthening the Hindus is bound to raise insecurity among other religious groups.

And I don't really know who I will vote for in the next election. Sab ek se badkar ek hain.

How is attempting to strengthen hindus and uniting them as one entity, tantamount to raising insecurity among other religious groups?
Other religions claim to be one people belonging to certain religion and they claim our gods,religion,beliefs are different.
Other religions can claim their religion is one .
While the same message if said by Hindus,that hindus "should get rid of caste system and become one entity" is raising threat levels?How?
Infact, uniting hindus is the best for India's National Security.